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respected balbir singh ji,
it is very sorry feelings that you call yourself sewadar and dont excactly follow bani and preaching of all gurus by making ur explanation with evidence from what was happening in past does not prove wrong doings correct either it is aarti , doin dhoops to pictures , placing nariyal , placing water during akhand path and drinking as amrit etc etc ... these are manmats and will remain inspite of giving thousands of example from past.
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gs_chana eventhough you aren't being offensive to Hindu's I myself am a Hindu and do find the way you have expressed your feelings offensive. For a believer of faith to minimalise another faith or even its rituals I find offensive.

Balbir Singh I have the upmost respect for your words. Hindu or Sikh I understand historically we fought together and in my opinion we share one thing in common and that is Hindustan.

Going back to the original post here is a logical explaination of why Hindu's perform a ritual such as arti this is soemthing I found very enlightening.
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May I also add religions have progressed from one another and the closest linked ones are Buddhism, Hinduism and Sikhism. You should never dismiss your guru's teaching but never dismiss what your religion may have gained from another either. I may be off the point here if so I apoloigise in advance. I hope you enjoy my explaination as follows.

Having worshipped the Lord with love, lit by the lamp we see the beauty of the Lord in all his glory. The singing, clapping is associated with the joy that accompanies the vision of the Lord. (The Lord can be your own perception of spiritualism).

Aarti being performed with Camphor has a spiritual significance. Camphor burns itself out completely without leaving a trace. Camphor represents our Vasanas, unmanifest desires. So also if we were to take refuge in the Lord, obtain knowledge, these desires will get burnt out. Although the camphor burns itself out, it emits a nice perfume. On a human plane it means that we should sacrifice ourselves to serve society, in the process spread the perfume of love and happiness to all. (Something gs_chana's post doesn't do)



We close our eyes while performing the Aarti as if to look within. The Self or Atman is within us. . Self realization can be achieved by knowing thyself, with the flame of knowledge. At the end of the aarti we place the hands over the flame and touch our eyes and top of the head. It means that may the light that illumined the Lord light up my vision, may my thoughts be pure and beautiful.


With the Aarti comes the flame which signifies light. There can be light in our lives only if we have knowledge. In an era of darkness there would be ignorance, we would be perpetually running to fulfill our vasanas resulting in unhappiness and stress all around.



I hope as a Hindu that has clarified the aarti from our, sorry my perspective. Cannot speak for all HIndu's.
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Re: Hindu Aarti In Gurdwara

Above is a nice explanation of Aarti. But the question is: How many of our Hindu brothers and sisters really understand this concept and abide by this, while performing Aarti. when something is done without an understanding, it becomes a ritual... useless ritual. I am talking this in the same note in which our sikh brothers and sisters do "matha tek" in gurudwara without realizing its significance. That again makes the "matha tek" look like a useless ritual. Important is to understand why we are doing something, and how it should be done in a proper way.
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Don;t Point Finger On Any Religion What Are Your Views About The Gurbani Recited Daily In The Gurudwaras And People Not Even Try To Listen Carefully See There Are Traditions Which They Follow U R Right That They R Using Thaal And Divaa And Do Aarti But Thise Aarti Is Not Same As Hindu Religion Aarti It Is Misconception The Aarti They Do Is Ofor One Yniversal God
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gs_chana eventhough you aren't being offensive to Hindu's I myself am a Hindu and do find the way you have expressed your feelings offensive. For a believer of faith to minimalise another faith or even its rituals I find offensive.

Balbir Singh I have the upmost respect for your words. Hindu or Sikh I understand historically we fought together and in my opinion we share one thing in common and that is Hindustan.

Going back to the original post here is a logical explaination of why Hindu's perform a ritual such as arti this is soemthing I found very enlightening.

May I also add religions have progressed from one another and the closest linked ones are Buddhism, Hinduism and Sikhism. You should never dismiss your guru's teaching but never dismiss what your religion may have gained from another either. I may be off the point here if so I apoloigise in advance. I hope you enjoy my explaination as follows.

Having worshipped the Lord with love, lit by the lamp we see the beauty of the Lord in all his glory. The singing, clapping is associated with the joy that accompanies the vision of the Lord. (The Lord can be your own perception of spiritualism).

Aarti being performed with Camphor has a spiritual significance. Camphor burns itself out completely without leaving a trace. Camphor represents our Vasanas, unmanifest desires. So also if we were to take refuge in the Lord, obtain knowledge, these desires will get burnt out. Although the camphor burns itself out, it emits a nice perfume. On a human plane it means that we should sacrifice ourselves to serve society, in the process spread the perfume of love and happiness to all. (Something gs_chana's post doesn't do)



We close our eyes while performing the Aarti as if to look within. The Self or Atman is within us. . Self realization can be achieved by knowing thyself, with the flame of knowledge. At the end of the aarti we place the hands over the flame and touch our eyes and top of the head. It means that may the light that illumined the Lord light up my vision, may my thoughts be pure and beautiful.


With the Aarti comes the flame which signifies light. There can be light in our lives only if we have knowledge. In an era of darkness there would be ignorance, we would be perpetually running to fulfill our vasanas resulting in unhappiness and stress all around.



I hope as a Hindu that has clarified the aarti from our, sorry my perspective. Cannot speak for all HIndu's.
HI there,

Well I may have written the article in a little offensive way so I apologise, but I still do not accept your view on what Aarti is about. Not in a negative way, but rather I think applying it logically with a better understanding of what GOD is, you will realise how and why such worldy matters (now this includes idol worship, fasting, namaz (islamic prayers), staying virgin in a convent, etc as well as the issue here about Aarti) ARE AIMLESS PRACTICES.

I will refrain from using USELESS, but rather to get you thinking I will use AIMLESS PRACTICES. God is not a visible being, is not a being you can just talk to with the physical. "LikkleMissHindu" you say that when doing aarti you take contemplation on the within, i.e. talk to GOD from within, then as far as I am concerned YOU ARE ABSOLUTLY RIGHT. The only way in which GOD can be communicated with is the Mind, hence meditation. Sikhi does not offer prayer to GOD!! WHERE HAS IT EVER DONE SO, GIVE ME A QUOTE IN THE GURU GRANTH SAHIB THAT SAYS WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO SING OUT LOUD TO GOD!

Anyway back to the matter at hand, LikkleMissHindu should realise that I have nothing against Hinduism, infact Hindu texts teach the same message of contemplation on God rather than fictionalised stories made by man on how to communicate with God. LikkleMissHindu please go give me some quotes from books such as the Vedas, Shastras, Simrities, etc that believe in such practices as you hindus follow daily.

Learn about GOD furthermore LikkleMissHindu from your text books, and you shall realise how to be a true Hindu. Remember, all the demi-gods (ram, krishna, etc) all preached about GOD, so do likewise and you will realise what I mean by how such acts are outdated and ignorant; simply because they are not compatable with a logical belief of GOD.

Hope that makes sense, probably doesn't, but hey, thats life.

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Thise Aari,havan,vrat Are Called Karamkands Thise May Lead To Hipocracy Because If Your Mind Is Not Pure Then What Is The Need To Do Thise Kind Of Hipocracy
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guys why are we goinn soo farr donnt u guys remmeber the sakhi of guru nanak dev ji where he condemned the aarti happening in a mandir...
gagan mai thal rav chand deepak baney.
the sky is the thaal and the sun, moon ann stars are the deevey...
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we have the answer in guru granth sahib ji den y are we mislead..
i agree that w.e is happening in sri hajoor sahib is totally wrong it shudnn happen because guru sahib has told us bout the "real aarti" that happens by itself anyways..

sorry if i sed anything rong.. correct me plzz
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Next time I see Hindu Artee in a gurdwara, I will blow a shanda, Hindu shell and say "Namastee", welcome to a pakandi mandar disguised as gurdwara sahib. Village people are not educated and they follow pakandi saints sponsored by the Indian government. They rape women as well and commit murder on anyone who squeals on them.
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wjkk wjkf
guys why are we goinn soo farr donnt u guys remmeber the sakhi of guru nanak dev ji where he condemned the aarti happening in a mandir...
gagan mai thal rav chand deepak baney.
the sky is the thaal and the sun, moon ann stars are the deevey...
we have the answer in guru granth sahib ji den y are we mislead..
i agree that w.e is happening in sri hajoor sahib is totally wrong it shudnn happen because guru sahib has told us bout the "real aarti" that happens by itself anyways..

sorry if i sed anything rong.. correct me plzz
Hey, Can you tell me where I can find this sakhi? or if you know it, then tell me what Guru Nanak Dev Ji said word per word, thanks!
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