3H0 Gurudwaras and Yoga

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Nam Hari ji,

I am not sure abt the issue. I hope Gyani ji or any other learned soul here can tell us more abt this.

Regards.
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Here is proof that yoga is an anti-gurmat practice... it comes under the same shelter as fasting... it is haraam [forbidden] in Sikhism

Meeting with the Holy, the perfection of the Siddhas is obtained. What good is Yoga or indulgence in pleasures?
saaDh milai siDh paa-ee-ai ke ayhu jog ke bhog. - ang 334

I attain Yoga, singing the Kirtan of Your Praises. ||1||
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jog bani-aa tayraa keertan gaa-ee. ||1|| - ang 385

All Yoga is in the Name of the Lord; the body and the breath of life belong to Him.
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sabh jogtan raam naam hai jis kaa pind paraanaa. - ang 477

What is the good of practicing Yoga, giving feasts and charity, and practicing penance? ||4||
jogayn kiN jagayn kiN daadayn kiN tapsaa. ||4|| - ang 526

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NamHari ji I have only told you what Guruji says on the issue. 3H0 are blatently doing yoga as a spiritual practice which is clearly not allowed. Surely to loose weight it is not fine, but you have tried to justify it spiritually in Sikhism and from the quotes it is clearly not allowed.
It is up to you if you think the quotes are one-sided and I am willing to continue this debate further but you must be willing to accept that I think yoga is forbidden in Sikhism, it is not narrow-minded to be strong in my opinion. If I was strong in the same opinion as you [that yoga is permissable in Sikhism], would you have sent me a personal message about me being set in my ways and dogmatic? Sorry if I have hurt your feelings, afterall this is a discussion forum and we are all here to engage in healthy discussions and exchange ideas. I am only sharing my side of the discussion. Please note that in this instance I am giving my own opinion of what I think is allowed in Sikhism based around my knowledge of Sikhism, not necessarily that I am for or against yoga on a personal level. Once again sorry if I have hurt your feelings as it seems this is the case.

CaramelChocolate;
I will tell you what hurts my feelings - that you would refer to my private message to you in a public forum in a way that embarasses me.

I no longer wish to communicate with you on any topic privately or publicly until I see you learning appropriate social etiquette and a little humility.

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5266
Nam Hari Kaur

i think shri naam hari kaur ji's feelings get hurt all the time,there is no place for feelings in discussion,because it is discussion about a topic,it is not any kind of personal attack

Sat Nam-
CC has misrepresented me in three ways when speaking about my private message to him.
1. I never said anything about my feelings being hurt in my private message.
2. I never used the word "dogmatic"
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3. I did not use the phrase "set in your ways"

So in other words, nothing that CC said I said is true.

ANd why do YOU say that my feelings get hurt all the time - you have NOOOOO basis for saying that at all.

Peace and enlightenment to you both soon!
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Nam Hari Kaur

Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh!!!!!!!

Just a question.... does anybody kno if there uis a 3HO gurdwara... or atleast any sangat that lives in Ottawa?????? i have a friend who went to there school in India... and she was telling me about it and was asking if i knew of anyone in Ottawa, Ontario.
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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5266


Waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh!!!

I am very thankfull that you found these quotes. Here is my interpritation of them...


Meeting with the Holy, the perfection of the Siddhas is obtained. What good is Yoga or indulgence in pleasures?
saaDh milai siDh paa-ee-ai ke ayhu jog ke bhog. - ang 334

Guru Nanak saise that their is nothing wrong with laughing, enjoying life and dressing well. One may own a BMW as long as the BMW does not own them. In the same way, one can do yoga as long as it is not an empty act. What is it good for if it makes one ignore God? Does not God want us to keep our bodies, His creation fit? God smiles on us when we play soccor, why not when we do yoga?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5266

I do understand what you mean about people taking it too far as a spiritual practice. I suppose this would be the flip side to the people who only do it as a phisical practice. One must always ride the middle, the balence.
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What is the good of practicing Yoga, giving feasts and charity, and practicing penance? ||4||
jogayn kiN jagayn kiN daadayn kiN tapsaa. ||4|| - ang 526
No good if it is not for God. But with God charity is good, with God food is good, with God yoga is good.


Have you ever done any yoga?