As a Sikh do you ever ask when hurting or feeling low, God/Creator, why me?

Ambarsaria · #**109** (**permalink**) 05-May-2012, 23:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BhagatSingh

The concept of reincarnation starts from this belief. Imagine a basketball (as a human being) and imagine the ground underneath it (as God), essentially what we are talking about is, taking that basketball and dropping it from a certain height. It bounces several times. Each time it hits the ground and rises you notice the basketball looks different, it's still a basket ball but it's got a different design on it, etc. But in the end it hits and ground and stays there. That on the micro scale is our lives, on the macro scale it maybe called reincarnation. The word for reincarnation is actually Sansar, which means "the world".

Veer Bhagat Singh ji every time the basketball hits the court, the court changes too. So how can there be a continuation if there is continuous change with infinite number of interactions and bodies involved at the micro and macro level? Hence to claim or project re-incarnation as continuity or continuous is bogus.

Sat Sri Akal.

BhagatSingh · #**110** (**permalink**) 06-May-2012, 01:02 AM

Please elaborate.

Randip Singh · #**111** (**permalink**) 06-May-2012, 02:15 AM

I used to think that, and nowadays my view has shifted to, why NOT me?

Archived_member15 · #**112** (**permalink**) 06-May-2012, 04:38 AM

In terms of the original topic of this thread, I love this quote from Meister Eckhart:

"...This I know, that the only way to live is like the rose which lives without a 'why'...Man must live without why...Why do you love God? - I don't know, because of God. - Why do you love truth? - Because of truth. - Why do you love justice? - Because of justice. - Why do you love the good? - Because of the good. - Why do you live? - Forsooth! I don't know! But I am happy to live...You might ask life itself over a period of a thousand years the following question: "Why are you alive?" And still the only response you would receive would be: 'I live so that I may live'. Why does this happen? Because life rises from its own foundation and rises out of itself. Therefore, life lives without a reason - life lives for itself...Whatever I know to be God's will - the longer, the better, and the greater the pain, the greater the joy. For to do God's will is heaven, so the longer the will lasts, the longer the heaven, and the greater the pain from God's will, the greater the blessedness...The soul is in God and God in the soul. If anyone put water in a barrel, the barrel would surround the water, but the water would not be in the barrel, nor would the barrel be in the water: but the soul is so wholly one with God that the one cannot be understood without the other. We can understand heat without the fire, and the shine without the sun: but God cannot understand Himself without the soul nor the soul without God - so completely are they one...Some people run in front of God, some beside God, some follow behind God. Those who run in front of God are they who follow their own will and do not care about God's will: that is altogether bad. The others, who run beside God, say, 'Lord, I want only what you want'. But if they are sick, they wish for God to want them well: that may pass. The third are those who follow behind God: wherever he wants to go they willingly follow Him, and they are perfect...These people follow God wherever he leads them, in sickness or in health, in good fortune or in bad...Thus God is in the soul, and the soul is in God..."
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- Meister Eckhart (c. 1260-1327) (Sermon Seventy One), Catholic mystic and Dominican priest