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Old 08-Mar-2012, 01:29 AM
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waheguru ji da khalsa waheguru ji fateh to all of my brother and sister.

Under this topic, i have many question to ask, so i am going to ask them clearly and non-offensive as i can. And i hope i get a good discussion and awnser aswell.

1)I have rencently being doing my research on Sikhism and learn't that the Nihang consume Cannibis, due to the fact that Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave Cannibis to the Nihangs as some sort of Parshad. Is This True Or Not.
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2) If its not true than how did Cannibis culture enter into Sikhism

3) However if it is true, didn't our guru's advise us to stay away from Alcohol, Smoking and any other sort of In-Toxication
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4)What are your Views on Cannibis, i mean do you believe it should be used for medicine or should it stay banned?

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Old 08-Mar-2012, 02:56 AM
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Re: Cannibis and Sikhism

We all have a protective shield around us known as our AURA.
This Aura is very fragile, which is why our Gurus preached follow
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purity in Life.

Around us are many dimensions, in which exist many other beings.

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When we take Drugs, Cannibas, alcohol and indulge in promiscious activites, this causes our Divine meridians/Chi energy pathways
to breakdown leading to breakdown of our Aura.

This allows these negative energies to enter us and attach to us to feed of our energies.

Its not good to indulge in these activities.
I have been studying these energies for the last 20 years. They exist, any one who pretends or imagines they
do not exist needs to think otherwise.
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Old 08-Mar-2012, 09:26 AM
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Re: Cannibis and Sikhism

If your name is already 'BlazinSikh', I would assume your already dabbling in it, and are looking for something to support consuming Cannibis.
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I'm sorry, but that's what it seems like.

Imo, there is little reason for modern human beings, who usually have a pretty sedentary lifestyle to be using cannibis or other recreational drugs, save out of boredom or peer pressure. In any case, do you really wanna hand over the reigns of your life to substances? Bad idea.
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Old 08-Mar-2012, 10:01 AM
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1)I have rencently being doing my research on Sikhism and learn't that the Nihang consume Cannibis, due to the fact that Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave Cannibis to the Nihangs as some sort of Parshad. Is This True Or Not.
Why would Guru Gobind Singh ask his Sikhs to abstain from cigarettes, liquor etc. but give Cannabis as Prasad?

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2) If its not true than how did Cannibis culture enter into Sikhism
Punjab is the known drug and alcohol capital of India by now. Ask how?

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4)What are your Views on Cannibis, i mean do you believe it should be used for medicine or should it stay banned?
I stay away from it!
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Old 08-Mar-2012, 10:03 AM
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Guru Gobind Singh Ji never worshipped the Devi, or gave out cannabis as parshaad. These are only 2 of the false tales attached to GGS...others are that He composed a granth called BNG, SLG, or sau sakhis etc etc. etc.
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Cannabis and ALL DRUGS are banned esp the Over the counter types like Tobacco and alcohol. Whatever HARMS the BODY is ultra vires Gurmattas Guru nanak Ji wrote in Sri raag .
Lets not try and find excuses for our bad habits...or blame the Guru...
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Old 09-Mar-2012, 07:15 AM
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Re: Cannibis and Sikhism

Umm i see, i knew that the info i found was false. However i still want to know why do the Nihangs use it, i mean they are devoted sikhs, don't they know that what they are doing is bad or what.
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P.S Navdeep88 i swear to GOD that i do not, and never smoked in my life serious. The reason i chose the name BlazinSikh is becuase it sound cool to me i guess, but i have never smoke or drank in my life. And i thank Waheguru that i haven't
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Old 09-Mar-2012, 08:27 AM
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Umm i see, i knew that the info i found was false. However i still want to know why do the Nihangs use it, i mean they are devoted sikhs, don't they know that what they are doing is bad or what.

P.S Navdeep88 i swear to GOD that i do not, and never smoked in my life serious. The reason i chose the name BlazinSikh is becuase it sound cool to me i guess, but i have never smoke or drank in my life. And i thank Waheguru that i haven't
We have to understand that Sikhism went through terrible war time in 18th century and many customs entered Sikhism in that time.Its very easy to talk about wartime and other goodie goodie things in peaceful time ,but none of us
can experiance the mentality of Sikhs who were in war time.There was a misl Bhangi misl whose members use to consume bhang in very large quantity.

http://www.sikh-history.com/sikhhist/events/bhangi.html

Bhang and other intoxicants entered Sikhism during wartime ,may be it was essential for soldiers ,so they can cool their nerves
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Old 09-Mar-2012, 09:14 AM
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Umm i see, i knew that the info i found was false. However i still want to know why do the Nihangs use it, i mean they are devoted sikhs, don't they know that what they are doing is bad or wha

BlazinSikh ji

The true Nihangs were not bhang (cannabis) consumers. These practices crept in throughout the many years.
The hindu dominants were a major influence and still are.
The mahants, who had control of the Sikh religion let so many anti-gurmat practices to creep in.
The real true Nihangs are falsely represented by the bhang consumers.-This is not a true picture.


If you look at the real history from Guru Gobind Singh ji's time, with regards to their formation, dedication and their importance to sikhism, you will understand them a lot better.

We have to remember that as the Nihangs got larger in numbers from their initial formation, many warriors from hindu backrounds contributed the numbers. These many that went from hindu to sikh were users of bhang (followers of lord Shiva etc..) and they kept this use with them, falsely associating it with warrior lifestyle.

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"kabeer bhaang maachhulee suraa paan jo jo praanee khaa(n)hi. teerat barat nem kee-e te sabhe rsaatal jaa(n).

O Kabeer! If people after ‘speaking with the Holy’ and go on pilgrimages, perform fasts and practice rituals etc, and those sharaabi, intoxicated, people also consume marijuana and fish (i.e. they attend the Satsang and also consume Sharaab-Kebab and commit immoral deeds) – those persons' pilgrimages, fasts and rituals are totally useless. "





The Guru Granth Sahib does not anywhere encourage intoxicants.

Nowadays the bhang consumers will claim that it's an old tradition.
It is infact an old warrior tradition, but NOT sikh in any way, -and it shouldn't be mistaken for anything sikhi.

We will always get sikhs that use cannabis, try to justify it by claiming to be nihangs. But a true sikh will know that use of intoxicants is anti-gurmat.

This subject has been mentioned in other posts. I hope it answers your questions.

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READ the BNG..aka Dsm Granth....inside there you will find an OVER ABUNDANCE of sex orgies, drinking orgies,shaving orgies, bhang orgies..a really huge grouping types used to be called Hippies in the late 1960's....that granth is an open book on all these...its available for downlaod and reading in English/original language at various sites such as Gobindsadan.org..............and many Nihungs worship this granth.....so do the maths...:intere stedsingh:
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