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Our Guru ji were of Hindu lineage. They discovered and wanted to create a future beyond Hinduism. That future in brevity has come to be known as Sikhism.

In Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Guru ji and other writers shattered so many myths of Hiduism, spoke up against ill direction provided by the then purveyors of Hinduism, to some extent also the then leaders or people in-charge of Islam. So to me Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji was composed for the following purpose,
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  • To help Hindus to unshackle and become wiser and Sikh
  • To help Sikhs that became to have a guiding light forever so to be not lost
  • Anyone else who could just benefit from large amounts of humanistic thoughts, wisdom, poetry and many other attributes of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji
What you think?
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help Hindus to unshackle and become wiser and Sikhquote
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To be unshackled and become wiser is possible within being a Hindu,were not many Bhagats Hindu?ofcourse some Hindu's were shackled then just as some Sikhs are shackled now,but the Bhagat was free then and now.

Sikh or Hindu one is only accepted if he has love for God,if he has just an adherence then he has wasted his life.
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At the times of NANAK,and even few years before the the people were living in a state of slave ,Socially,Politically as well as Religiously.
The persons with vested interests contolled all these areas and people were being looted by so called self made GuRoo in Hindu Religion and so called Kaji Mullahs iIslamic religions.
The concept of PARMATMA and GuROO in person as the sole medium of uniting the common people with PARMATAMA was at the peak.General people were being kept ignorant about the true meassges of actual Dhamic Granths.
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Gurbanee thru NANAK and thru previous Bhagats showed a new light of Knowledge which started changing the thought process of common persons for the facts of PARMATAMA and GuRoo. NANAK ji acted as epicetre of this revolution in thinking and giving the messages of real art of living for a common persons.
Gurbanne messages made it very clear as to who is real GuRoo and esblished a philosophy which categoricaaly removed the existing confusions created by the Heading people of that time.(Both Hindu and Islamic).
It is very surprising fact of Gurbanee that there is no use of the word PARMATAMA in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.This is because there is no difference in the reference of GuRoo and PARMATAMA.
Since the word GuRoo is the Epicentre of the whole of Gurbanee there is no place for making use of the word PARMATAMA as this would be confusing.
Since theSource of Gurbanee is the word GuRoo .This is important to understand.So we can see that the messages of Gurbanee are common for all humans irrespective of Color,Creed,Caste and religion.
So Gurbanee is gracful whosoever respects from the heart.It tells the way to meet PRABHu thru GuR . (Not PARMATAMA thru GuRoo as our preachers still promote this )
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These are my personal views and there may be difference of opinions which others may present I shall be always eager to learn more and more.

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Re: Who does Sri Guru Granth Sahib address most?

Prakash ji references to Parmatma are there in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. You just have to look a bit.

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-s...tml#post160205

If there is no difference between Guru and Parmatma then of course it shouldn't matter which word we use.
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Re: Who does Sri Guru Granth Sahib address most?

BHAGAT SINGH Ji,
I know that word is"PARMATAMu" not PARMATAMA.

You are not considering the grammar of the words, and this makes the difference.

Giving grammatcal consideration to the words you will find difference in the reference meanings of PARMATAMA and PARMATAMu.
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Go on Veerji. Please elaborate on the difference.

Also the word Paratma is there as well, which means the same thing as Parmatma. Thoughts on that?
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Go on Veerji. Please elaborate on the difference.

Also the word Paratma is there as well, which means the same thing as Parmatma. Thoughts on that?
Pl post the quotes with both the words from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji enabling me to rectify myself

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Parm...atma is our Inner Conscience....the "Atma" is our consciousness based on our daily actions..the Parmatma the BASE STANDARD against which we "measure" whether our atma is doing good or less good... Just like the IMAGE of the Sun or MOON is the SAME in any body of water whether its in rural village in Africa or in Chicago..so is the Par-Atma set as Base Standard in ALL ...so that we can MOULD our secondary atmas accordingly...The atma is in the Bubbles that arise over the waves of the Ocean...each bubble having the same AIR and Water the Ocean contains....ONLY the HUMAN has been given the SARDAREE of this WORLD..he alone has the ability to Follow and ADOPT the Base standards to change his LIFE accordingly...so His Inner Consciousness is SATISFACTORY and at Peace with HIMSELF. Once the Human BODY dies..the BUBBLE BURSTS..the AIR is released..the water falls back into the Ocean...another NEW bubble is created...and LIFE goes ON....and ON..JAISEH JAL TE BUDBUDA upjeh..binseh neet !!!
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ਧਨਾਸਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੧ ॥
धनासरी महला १ ॥
Ḏẖanāsrī mėhlā 1.
Dhanaasaree, First Mehl:
ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇ ਤਾ ਸਿਮਰਿਆ ਜਾਇ ॥
नदरि करे ता सिमरिआ जाइ ॥
Naḏar kare ṯā simri▫ā jā▫e.
If the Lord bestows His Glance of Grace, then one remembers Him in meditation.
ਆਤਮਾ ਦ੍ਰਵੈ ਰਹੈ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ ॥
आतमा द्रवै रहै लिव लाइ ॥
Āṯmā ḏarvai rahai liv lā▫e.
The soul is softened, and he remains absorbed in the Lord's Love.
ਆਤਮਾ ਪਰਾਤਮਾ ਏਕੋ ਕਰੈ ॥
आतमा परातमा एको करै ॥
Āṯmā parāṯamā eko karai.
His soul and the Supreme Soul become one.
ਅੰਤਰ ਕੀ ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਮਰੈ ॥੧॥
अंतर की दुबिधा अंतरि मरै ॥१॥
Anṯar kī ḏubiḏẖā anṯar marai. ||1||
The duality of the inner mind is overcome. ||1||
ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਪਾਇਆ ਜਾਇ ॥
गुर परसादी पाइआ जाइ ॥
Gur parsādī pā▫i▫ā jā▫e.
By Guru's Grace, God is found.
ਹਰਿ ਸਿਉ ਚਿਤੁ ਲਾਗੈ ਫਿਰਿ ਕਾਲੁ ਨ ਖਾਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
हरि सिउ चितु लागै फिरि कालु न खाइ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Har si▫o cẖiṯ lāgai fir kāl na kẖā▫e. ||1|| rahā▫o.
One's consciousness is attached to the Lord, and so Death does not devour him. ||1||Pause||
ਸਚਿ ਸਿਮਰਿਐ ਹੋਵੈ ਪਰਗਾਸੁ ॥
सचि सिमरिऐ होवै परगासु ॥
Sacẖ simri▫ai hovai pargās.
Remembering the True Lord in meditation, one is enlightened.
ਤਾ ਤੇ ਬਿਖਿਆ ਮਹਿ ਰਹੈ ਉਦਾਸੁ ॥
ता ते बिखिआ महि रहै उदासु ॥
Ŧā ṯe bikẖi▫ā mėh rahai uḏās.
Then, in the midst of Maya, he remains detached.
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਐਸੀ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥
सतिगुर की ऐसी वडिआई ॥
Saṯgur kī aisī vadi▫ā▫ī.
Such is the Glory of the True Guru;
ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਕਲਤ੍ਰ ਵਿਚੇ ਗਤਿ ਪਾਈ ॥੨॥
पुत्र कलत्र विचे गति पाई ॥२॥
Puṯar kalṯar vicẖe gaṯ pā▫ī. ||2||
in the midst of children and spouses, they attain emancipation. ||2||
ਐਸੀ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਸੇਵਾ ਕਰੈ ॥
ऐसी सेवकु सेवा करै ॥
Aisī sevak sevā karai.
Such is the service which the Lord's servant performs,
ਜਿਸ ਕਾ ਜੀਉ ਤਿਸੁ ਆਗੈ ਧਰੈ ॥
जिस का जीउ तिसु आगै धरै ॥
Jis kā jī▫o ṯis āgai ḏẖarai.
that he dedicates his soul to the Lord, to whom it belongs.
ਸਾਹਿਬ ਭਾਵੈ ਸੋ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥
साहिब भावै सो परवाणु ॥
Sāhib bẖāvai so parvāṇ.
One who is pleasing to the Lord and Master is acceptable.
ਸੋ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਦਰਗਹ ਪਾਵੈ ਮਾਣੁ ॥੩॥
सो सेवकु दरगह पावै माणु ॥३॥
So sevak ḏargėh pāvai māṇ. ||3||
Such a servant obtains honor in the Court of the Lord. ||3||
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਹਿਰਦੈ ਵਸਾਏ ॥
सतिगुर की मूरति हिरदै वसाए ॥
Saṯgur kī mūraṯ hirḏai vasā▫e.
He enshrines the image of the True Guru in his heart.
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ਜੋ ਇਛੈ ਸੋਈ ਫਲੁ ਪਾਏ ॥
जो इछै सोई फलु पाए ॥
Jo icẖẖai so▫ī fal pā▫e.
He obtains the rewards which he desires.
ਸਾਚਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰੈ ॥
साचा साहिबु किरपा करै ॥
Sācẖā sāhib kirpā karai.
The True Lord and Master grants His Grace;
ਸੋ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਜਮ ਤੇ ਕੈਸਾ ਡਰੈ ॥੪॥
सो सेवकु जम ते कैसा डरै ॥४॥
So sevak jam ṯe kaisā darai. ||4||
how can such a servant be afraid of death? ||4||
ਭਨਤਿ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਕਰੇ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥
भनति नानकु करे वीचारु ॥
Bẖanaṯ Nānak kare vīcẖār.
Prays Nanak, practice contemplation,
ਸਾਚੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਿਉ ਧਰੇ ਪਿਆਰੁ ॥
साची बाणी सिउ धरे पिआरु ॥
Sācẖī baṇī si▫o ḏẖare pi▫ār.
and enshrine love for the True Word of His Bani.
ਤਾ ਕੋ ਪਾਵੈ ਮੋਖ ਦੁਆਰੁ ॥
ता को पावै मोख दुआरु ॥
Ŧā ko pāvai mokẖ ḏu▫ār.
Then, you shall find the Gate of Salvation.
ਜਪੁ ਤਪੁ ਸਭੁ ਇਹੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਹੈ ਸਾਰੁ ॥੫॥੨॥੪॥
जपु तपु सभु इहु सबदु है सारु ॥५॥२॥४॥
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This Shabad is the most excellent of all chanting and austere meditations. ||5||2||4||
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