Is Hindu/Sikh a Valid Adherent?

Kanwaljit Singh · #73 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 11:20 AM

Well let them be aware of a Sikh's agenda, to learn and offer others to learn. If everyone else is wasting their time, what can we do?
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Ambarsaria · #74 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 11:46 AM

Some good Nuggets on first read for lovers to chew on

. Great Book, thanks Veer Kanwaljit Singh ji,

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Mr. M.K.Gandhi
(a) My belief about the Sikh Gurus is that they were all Hindus. I do not regard Sikhism as a religion distinct from Hinduism. (Young India 1.10.1925)
(b) The Granth Sahib of the Sikhs is actually based on the Hindu scriptures. (Collected works of M.K.Gandhi page 284)

I really like Bapu jis quotes above, quite an insight why Sikhs got screwed.

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Hindus often try to corrupt the Sikh doctrines and condemn Sikhism as an insignificant religion. They usually make use of Bachittar Natak, a book they assign to Guru Gobind Singh, the tenth Guru of the Sikhs and leave no stone unturned to prove that Sikhism is a branch of Hinduism. 10 .....

They quote spurious portions selectively and ignore those portions of this Granth which attack the fundamental principles of Hinduism. It is for this reason that in this book I have quoted copiously from Bachittar Natak to expose the nefarious tactics such unscrupulous people are adopting.

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In the same vein Dr S. Radhakrishnan, the ex president of India stated, Sikh Gurus do not claim to teach a new doctrine but only renew the eternal wisdom. Nanak elaborated the views of Vaisnava saints..

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According to Dr Gopal Singh, some have described Sikhism as an offshoot of the Bhakti cult inspired in its main tenets by Kabeer. Others have taken it to be synthesis of Mohammedan monotheism and the Hindu metaphysics. One scholar has even suggested it to be a crude form of Buddhism on account of its insistence on Nirvana minus its atheism.

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A school of Sikhs, called the Nirmalas, who are well versed in Sanskrit and the Hindu scripture, has been interpreting it as a Vedanta creed at best an exposition of the Bhagwad Gita.

I will probably read it end to end.

Let us hear a nice song it is getting hot in here,

Tum Agar Saath Dene Ka Vada Karo (Hamraaz) - YouTube

Enjoy all, as it answers lot of questions head-on versus

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"luba duba do" translation "I love you"

Sat Sri Akal.

Kanwaljit Singh · #75 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 11:49 AM

Yes I felt it was very well researched, and over 270 pages

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/37952-is-hindu-sikh-a-valid-adherent.html

I am going to save it, hopefully will remember to refer it when faced with questions as such.

Luckysingh · #76 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 12:19 PM

A fantastic text being a 'must' guide yet it acts as a comprehensive well researched reference.

A big thanks to Kanwaljit SinghJi, this is a very good informative read.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37952

Sat sri akaal
LuckySingh

Kanwaljit Singh · #77 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 12:58 PM

Big thanks to Kamala ji for helping us explore \m/

Kamala · #78 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 13:05 PM

L0L I don't know what is going on here, can someone please just breifly tell me because sarcasm isn't the key..

harry haller · #79 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 15:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BhagatSingh

Harry ji,
The original implies the same thing that SP ji's version 2.0 implies.
You are atma, which is neither this nor that. It is neither Hindu nor Sikh. Ok this will only make sense once you know what atma is. Not knowledge as some sort of description of atma but actually knowing in yourself what atma is. Who is that one who has discussions or feels emotions? Who is the one who has pride, greed, anger, lust and attachment? Who is the one who experiences thought as a phenomenon? When you are having discussions with yourself, ask yourself, "who is this whom I am having discussions with?"

Harry ji,
What about those stories and characters in the stories do you find incompatible? You say they are incompatible so why do you think they are mentioned in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?

Cheers

PS there is always a next step.

Veerji

Although I understand your reasoning, its really very simple, follow Hukam, be at peace in your head, be moderate, be united.

There is nothing that I find incompatible in the characters and stories, but that is because that is all they are, characters and stories. We both know why they are mentioned, and it what manner they are mentioned, as a reference point, nothing more, nothing less, at least that is what I believe, what is it that you believe?, so that I can understand your point of view

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #80 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2012, 16:40 PM

Dear All...
The Respected Author has also written three more excellent books..Islam and Sikhism...Christianity and Sikhism..and Science and Sikhism...all published by the Sikh Missionary Society UK. I have all 3 courtesy of Sardar GS Sidhu Ji sahib. All these also well researched and worth buying/downloading.

Scarlet Pimpernel · #81 (**permalink**) 14-Feb-2012, 01:56 AM

Dearest Musketeer sorry for the delay in responding ,alas I had to try to 'earn' my daily bread.

Our Udasi Musketeer I agree with,I see no distinction between light,ofcourse the lamp shades differ.

[quote One of the thieves has taken over me in this thread so I am trying to blow steam to get rid of the thief. ][/quote]

Peer Ji

Sorry to anger thee,it is only that sometimes I just fail to see,any other than he.