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| | | | | Re: Is Hindu/Sikh a Valid Adherent? Amarjit Singh Bamrah ji it is not what I say. There is great elaboration on the topics of "Karma" and "Re-Incarnation" and their irrelevance in Sikhism. Please search spn and perhaps post your thoughts there.
I love all as much as you so truisms have little value to be continuously re-iterated. Quote:
I can post my personal Lessons I have received from upstairs however
they seem to be not liked nor understood.
| Veer there is only one creator. We may all experience and understand differently and each can be unique to each of us. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji says that the creator is infinite. You should not try to box such as I never will. The creator does not love me more than you or give me a lesson different than you. Sometimes we get the interpretation of the lesson as we are conditioned and in that way we are both the same but also different.
Sat Sri Akal.
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| | | | | Re: Is Hindu/Sikh a Valid Adherent? Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlet Pimpernel Na Koi Hindu, Na Koi Sikh. |
SPji, this does not make sense to me, the original implies there is no Muslim or Hindu, surely intimating we are all potential Sikh, I am not sure what this implies.. | | The following member appreciates harry haller Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Is Hindu/Sikh a Valid Adherent? Quote:
Originally Posted by BhagatSingh Harry ji,
It's not that Kamala ji is a Hindu Sikh (Kamala ji change your adherent you are confusing everyone) and you exclusively Sikh. It's that Kamala ji is a Sikh from India and you are a Sikh from Uk. Whereas she has grown up around stories of God incarnating and taking out the baddies, saving Earth from falling into water, protecting mankind from a venomous poison, etc. She has been exposed to Indian narratives whereas you have not. So she gets it and you don't. She gets what the story is about, and you simply say it doesn't exist. The question of existence does not matter here. It's not important. You may believe they exist or you may not. Get past this question and move on to the next step.
Cheers | Dearest Veerji,
There is no next step, this is at the crux of the very title of this thread.
It is absolutely, that Kamala Bhenji is a Hindu/Sikh, and I am a Sikh, If we were both Sikh I would have serious reservation about her views, but as she has said herself her Sikhi is more Sanatan, and I respect this. The key question is should I give weight to Kamalaji's views given what I know to be correct within Sikhi, and the answer is NO. If Kamalji gets it then I am absolutely delighted for her, and hope I can learn from her in areas that I find compatible within Sikhi. All other views I am happy to debate within Sanatan Sikhism with full respect for her beliefs.
I know its very Nanakian to adopt an all loving attitude, and an all accepting attitude, I try to be both, however, to me, this is the equivilant of arguing with the 11th Master, when the message is clear and unambiguous, and I feel this loving and accepting attutude must be directed by Bani. Of course we must respect all other religions, maybe we should even respect our own first | | The following member appreciates harry haller Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Is Hindu/Sikh a Valid Adherent? Harry ji,
The original implies the same thing that SP ji's version 2.0 implies.
You are atma, which is neither this nor that. It is neither Hindu nor Sikh. Ok this will only make sense once you know what atma is. Not knowledge as some sort of description of atma but actually knowing in yourself what atma is. Who is that one who has discussions or feels emotions? Who is the one who has pride, greed, anger, lust and attachment? Who is the one who experiences thought as a phenomenon? When you are having discussions with yourself, ask yourself, "who is this whom I am having discussions with?" Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/37952-is-hindu-sikh-a-valid-adherent.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37952
Harry ji,
What about those stories and characters in the stories do you find incompatible? You say they are incompatible so why do you think they are mentioned in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?
Cheers
PS there is always a next step.
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| | | | | Re: Is Hindu/Sikh a Valid Adherent? Karma is in Sikhism though :/.
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13-Feb-2012, 11:10 AM
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| | | | | Re: Is Hindu/Sikh a Valid Adherent? Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarlet Pimpernel Na Koi Hindu, Na Koi Sikh. | sp ji good play on a common phrase from the movies.
It is Na Koi Hindu, Na koi Musilman! Listen to Bulley Shah ji again where he talks about dismantling Maseets and Mandirs as it means nothing. Let us hear from people of those faiths what they think of that idea! Ayodhia comes to mind! 
I don't know what all the smilies stand for but I picked these for the red angry color. One of the thieves has taken over me in this thread so I am trying to blow steam to get rid of the thief.
Sat Sri Akal.
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13-Feb-2012, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh | Kanwaljit Singh ji we Sikhs are so gullible. Many people come here with agendas and not to learn, share or have a logical discourse. Thanks for your truthful effort though as always.
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