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| | | | | Re: Does Sikhism embrace Mysticism? ravneet_sb ji your example is good. However we need to watch out the use of word "surat", Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/37649-does-sikhism-embrace-mysticism.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37649
Surat in Gurbani is an ever increasing understanding of creation and creator and not just a new image with every word. It is accumulative and not a disjointed bunch of pictures. I don't think you meant the latter but just to be on up and up.
Sat Sri Akal.
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03-Dec-2011, 01:27 AM
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| | | | | Re: Does Sikhism embrace Mysticism? AMBARSARIA Ji,
Well depiction to clear the meaning of the word "SURAT".
This is the very first Movie which I saw in my childhood that too after running aray from the School. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37649Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37649
Any way, in Gurbani the word in Gurmukhi script is always as SURAT(i) {with a matra of Sihari}.So this is not a proper Noun as refered in the movie. So you have given the correct meaning to the word used in Gurbani.
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03-Dec-2011, 09:29 AM
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| | | | | Re: Does Sikhism embrace Mysticism? Sat Sri Akaal,
Ambarsaria Ji,
What appears to mind while reciting a word, is Truth, and accepted by self, and reflected as expression.
Accepted "Surat" what appears while reciting.
Experience of self while reciting may differ,
Nice Song. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37649
Bhul Chuk Maaf Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37649
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03-Dec-2011, 09:39 AM
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| | | | | Re: Does Sikhism embrace Mysticism? Sat Sri Akaal,
Just meditate while reciting word,
what it evokes as image,
to what object word connects, and Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37649
what is inside body, which is connecting.
It gives realization of "imaginative sense"
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03-Dec-2011, 10:21 AM
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| | | | | Re: Does Sikhism embrace Mysticism? Quote:
Originally Posted by ravneet_sb Sat Sri Akaal,
Just meditate while reciting word,
what it evokes as image,
to what object word connects, and
what is inside body, which is connecting.
It gives realization of "imaginative sense"
Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa
Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh | From Gurbani we can learn that just meditateing while reciting the word a single image should be evoked and that image is the very first SYMBOL EKANKAARu and is "REAL IMAGE"
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03-Dec-2011, 10:55 AM
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| | | | | Re: Does Sikhism embrace Mysticism? Quote:
Originally Posted by prakash.s.bagga From Gurbani we can learn that just meditateing while reciting the word a single image should be evoked and that image is the very first SYMBOL EKANKAARu and is "REAL IMAGE"
Prakash.S.Bagga | Prakash.s.bagga ji I totally agree in concept except for the differentiation between ੴas Ik▫oaʼnkār vs EKANKAARu.
I have some additional thoughts and I will share these in the following thread over the next couple of days and I believe mutually we can have a good respectful dialog at that time, http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat...review-ik.html
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Originally Posted by Ambarsaria Prakash.s.bagga ji I totally agree in concept except for the differentiation between ੴas Ik▫oaʼnkār vs EKANKAARu. I have some additional thoughts and I will share these in the following thread over the next couple of days and I believe mutually we can have a good respectful dialog at that time, http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/gurmat...review-ik.html Sat Sri Akal. | I welcome your approach. In fact we should move ahead in this way only
to develop correct understanding among ourselves as well for messages
of Gurbani.
I thank you for this .
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