Is Gurbani to be Read or Heard?

I hope the following is in scope,
Sat Sri Akal

 
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Veer ji
The wind can do nothing to us for it blows in his fear and just washes our clothes for us .

I confess to all Spners that I understand only one tenth of Gurbani even though I can pronounce it ok,I use translation to contemplate ,when I speak the Guru's word I try to think that I'm saying one word only ,in my mind that is Gods name,I hope he recognises his own name.

Scarlet Pimpernel ji may be any life carried by wind has fear. Fear perhaps is only a concept amongst some life forms. Rest of the universe just is and just does. Better not run into it as we won't relate. The end of world as we know will happen as such in a battle of fear driven versus fearless. For Example an atomic blast has no fear nor a comet speeding towards earth.

I wonder if you had a chance to look at this post as I liked Hawkings presentation,

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-s...tml#post156585

We are just transformational animate to in-animate and so on.

Sat Sri Akal.

Veer ji he is a genius 'there is nothing older than the Universe', what he meant I think is time in the Universe is measured from the Big Bang, I'm more Panentheistic,so I believe God is not just the expanse of matter that is just clay not the Potter .

ਏਕੁ ਸਬਦੁ ਜਿਤੁ ਕਥਾ ਵੀਚਾਰੀ ॥
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/37621-is-gurbani-to-be-read-heard.html
एकु सबदु जितु कथा वीचारी ॥
Ėk sabaḏ jiṯ kathā vīcẖārī.
I contemplate the sermon of the Shabad, the Word of the One God.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਅਗਨਿ ਨਿਵਾਰੀ ॥੪੪॥
गुरमुखि हउमै अगनि निवारी ॥४४॥
Gurmukẖ ha▫umai agan nivārī. ||44|| page 943
The Gurmukh puts out the fire of egotism. ||44||




ਲਿਖੇ ਬਾਝਹੁ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਬੋਲਿ ਬੋਲਿ ਗਵਾਈਐ ॥
लिखे बाझहु सुरति नाही बोलि बोलि गवाईऐ ॥
Likẖe bājẖahu suraṯ nāhī bol bol gavā▫ī▫ai.
Without pre-ordained destiny, understanding is not attained; talking and babbling, one wastes his life away.

ਜਿਥੈ ਜਾਇ ਬਹੀਐ ਭਲਾ ਕਹੀਐ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਸਬਦੁ ਲਿਖਾਈਐ ॥
जिथै जाइ बहीऐ भला कहीऐ सुरति सबदु लिखाईऐ ॥
Jithai jā▫e bahī▫ai bẖalā kahī▫ai suraṯ sabaḏ likẖā▫ī▫ai. page 566
Wherever you go and sit, speak well, and write the Word of the Shabad in your consciousness.





ਹਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਧੁਨਿ ਆਪੇ ॥
हरि आपे सबदु सुरति धुनि आपे ॥
Har āpe sabaḏ suraṯ ḏẖun āpe. page 165
The Lord Himself is the Word of the Shabad. He Himself is the awareness, attuned to its music.
ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮਿ ਮਨੁ ਬੇਧਿਆ ਅਵਰੁ ਕਿ ਕਰੀ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥
राम नामि मनु बेधिआ अवरु कि करी वीचारु ॥
Rām nām man beḏẖi▫ā avar kė karī vīcẖār.
My mind is pierced through by the Name of the Lord. What else should I contemplate?

ਸਬਦ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਸੁਖੁ ਊਪਜੈ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਰਾਤਉ ਸੁਖ ਸਾਰੁ ॥
सबद सुरति सुखु ऊपजै प्रभ रातउ सुख सारु ॥
Sabaḏ suraṯ sukẖ ūpjai parabẖ rāṯa▫o sukẖ sār. page 62
Focusing your awareness on the Shabad, happiness wells up. Attuned to God, the most excellent peace is found.



Sunn samāḏẖ sacẖe gẖar bārā.
And then, one dwells with the True Lord in His celestial home, the Primal State of Absorption in Deepest Samaadhi.

Nānak nirmal nāḏ sabaḏ ḏẖun sacẖ rāmai nām samā▫iḏā. ||17||5||17|| page 1038
O Guru Nanak, the immaculate sound current of the Naad, and the Music of the Shabad resound; one merges into the True Name of the Lord.
Govinḏ parīṯ sankāḏik uḏẖāre. page 1129
Love of the Lord of the Universe saved Sanak and his brother, the sons of Brahma.

Rām nām sabaḏ bīcẖāre. ||1||
They contemplated the Word of the Shabad, and the Name of the Lord. ||1||


Jis naḏar kare so▫ī sacẖ lāgai rasnā rām ravījai.
One who is blessed with the Lord's favor is attuned to the Truth; with his tongue, he chants the Lord's Name.


Anṯar bāhar bẖagṯī rāṯe sacẖ nām liv lāgī. page 570
Inwardly and outwardly, they are imbued with devotion, and they enshrine love for the True Name.


Sacẖai sabaḏ sacẖ samā▫e. ||1|| page 560
Through the Shabad, the True Word of God, one merges in the True Lord. ||1||


Gur kai sabaḏ ḏẖi▫ā▫e ṯū sacẖ lagī pi▫ār. ||1|| rahā▫o. page 994
Meditate on the Word of the Guru's Shabad; focus lovingly on the Truth. ||1||Pause||


Anḏar viḏẖā sacẖ nā▫e bāhar bẖī sacẖ diṯẖom. page966
The True Name has pierced the nucleus of my self deep within. Outside, I see the True Lord as well.


Ŧarai guṇ metai sabaḏ vasā▫e ṯā man cẖūkai ahankāro. page 944
Eradicating the three qualities, he enshrines the Shabad within, and then, his mind is rid of egotism.

Anṯar bāhar eko jāṇai ṯā har nām lagai pi▫āro.
Inside and out, he knows the One Lord alone; he is in love with the Name of the Lord.



Saḏā jan nirmal mail na lāgai sacẖ nām cẖiṯ lā▫ī. ||2|| page 1333
The humble beings are forever immaculate; no filth ever sticks to them. They focus their consciousness on the True Name. ||2||
Nāvai anḏar ha▫o vasāʼn nā▫o vasai man ā▫e. ||5|| page 55
I dwell deep within the Name; the Name has come to dwell within my mind. ||5||

Bājẖ gurū gubār hai bin sabḏai būjẖ na pā▫e.
Without the Guru, there is only pitch darkness; without the Shabad, understanding is not obtained.


Gur sabaḏ ḏiṛāvai rang si▫o bin kirpā la▫i▫ā na jā▫e. page 65
The Guru has lovingly implanted the Word of His Shabad within me. Without His Grace, it cannot be attained.


Guṇ sangrahi a▫ugaṇ sabaḏ jalā▫e. page 222
Through the Word of the Shabad, merits are gathered in, and demerits are burned away.



Gurmukẖ nām paḏārath pā▫e. ||6||
The Gurmukh obtains the treasure of the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||6||
Asaʼnkẖ kėhahi sir bẖār ho▫e.
Even to call them countless is to carry the weight on your head.

Akẖrī nām akẖrī sālāh. page 4
From the Word, comes the Naam; from the Word, comes Your Praise.
Akẖrī gi▫ān gīṯ guṇ gāh.
From the Word, comes spiritual wisdom, singing the Songs of Your Glory.
Sacẖ nām karṯā purakẖ eh raṯnā kẖāṇī. page 319
True is the Naam, the Name of the Creator, the Primal Being. It is the mine of precious jewels.




Nānak nām salāhi saḏā ṯū sacẖai sabaḏ samāhi. ||4||4||page 1334
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37621
O Guru Nanak, praise the Naam, the Name of the Lord forever, and merge in the True Word of the Shabad. ||4||4||



Amriṯ ras pī▫ā gur sabḏī ham nām vitahu kurbān. ||1|| page 1335
Through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, I drink in the Ambrosial Essence; I am a sacrifice to the Naam. ||1||

Ksandhu83 ji what are your own thoughts or understanding in reference to what you have quoted above.

That sometimes helps others to clarify and relate.

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37621
Sat Sri Akal.

Veera which of these two practices did we do?

Sorry veer I do not respond to tuks. I went to Srigranth.org to download and check whole shabad. It is pretty long and I am busy doing something else. I might respond to later.
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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37621

If you feel my post one above yours was out of line that is fine but it really was a request since when one posts a shabad usually there are thoughts and such can be very valuable to share.

Sat Sri Akal.

these tuks from different shabads answers lot of questions and are very much related to importance of understanding of shabad while reading and hearing.