Which is more important Simran or Sewa?

Ravneet ji,

Guru Fateh.

I think you totally misunderstood what Kamaee with Blood, sweat and tears means. It is not just physical as you claimed signifies in my post.

My quote:

Quote:

Your response: "Kamai" or "Kamavna" is not only physical earning.

First of all I never mentioned physical earning anywhere in my post. I have no idea where you got that from.

Secondly,I do not know what you mean by physical earning. It could also mean lifting weights and become stronger physically. But that is no the point.

Lastly, to earn with blood, sweat and tears does mean Spiritual, Mental and of course to live in the balance of Miri Piri, one has to earn a living.

And to accomplish all the above, one needs to be honest and a hard worker not just physically, but also mentally and spiritually.

Regards

Tejwant Singh

 
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Taranjeet ji,

Guru Fateh.

Yes, it is. It has been bubbling in my mind for quite sometime where we can involve the Sangat to evolve together. This is the way we will all be able to grow organically from the within and the treasures we gather due to this will be used in our everyday lives, so that we can make a real difference in this speck of sand called the Earth. This is the duty of every Sikh.

And, there is no better person than Ambarsaria ji who has gladly accepted this seva who can put this to fruition.

I only urge all the Sadh Sangat to pitch in with their thoughts no matter how much they disagree with others'. It is a Sikh's duty to learn, unlearn and relearn daily in order to become better humans and only through this way we can do that.

Kudos go to Ambarsaria ji.

Will be eagerly waiting for your thought sharing and of others in this.

Thanks & regards

Tejwant Singh

Sat Sri Akaal,


May "Guru's Bani" blesses all of us with this idea of "Kamaai"

It comes with blessings from wise.

Thanks for post.

Wheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੩ ॥ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਸਦਾ ਹੈ ਦਿਸੈ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਮਾਇ ॥ (ang 509)
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we need to follow guru granth sahib ji's teaching in our daily life. i think sewa and simran can't not be seperated. we need to do sewa while doing simran in our mind.

All jios
I think you'll all need to do a few pure, and perhaps - I hate to say it - a few not so pure things, and then meditate upon the subject in a dewy glade.......then and only then will you, maybe, if your not really all that lucky (because you're still living here, man), know what Simran really means; then, maybe, you'll be One - if only for the briefest of times - and see the Universe; it's Membrane, it's Bulk (See: String Theory); correctly, for the first time.
I did much sewa as a child, as we we're quite fortunate to be able to help financially and with the application of a lot of pro-civil rights related Power in our Military Communities, and I grew up cooking in a bingo parlor that made money ro feed the people in the Old Folks Home.
Sewa is wonderful, as it keeps you humble, and prepares you for the day when you might be the recipient of someone else's sewa......as so often happens, if you have serious pain issues, like me.
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Psst! I Love the Blue 'Turbans". I Protest Many Things Herbal........that's My Sewa.

Tejwantji

Just read your post, all our translations seem to have a lot in common, but they are all also extremely personal to us as individuals. This is one reason it is very difficult to get meaning out of anothers translation.

Without a doubt the hardest thing to do is to live your life by what you are reading, but is also the ultimate thing to do, otherwise what is the point, you would be like a miser hoarding gold with no desire to ever share or spend it, just keep it locked away so no one can else can have what you have, but then I do know some people like this, they know 'everything' but share nothing, they are misers of knowledge.

I look forward to Ambersariajis posts

When I was a young child watching those around me (not my parents) behave like sikhs, I remember thinking how much ritual and pointless things needed to be done to be a sikh, if someone was described as 'very religious' this normally meant they were dead against fun of any kind, looked very stern, but knew all the mythical rituals that enabled them to speak with some authority about God, when I read the posts here from so many enlightened people, it makes me realise what being 'very religious' actually means, to me, now, it means making sure people know you are religious, rather than being a good Sikh. A good Sikh is filled with Chardi Kala, is kind, helpful, passionate, and eager to learn and eager to serve, not for brownie points, or to please God, but because in doing so, it is the right thing to do, for oneself, and for Creation.

Harry Haller ji
I think it's awful that, even though most of the persons, like Guru Nanak, who've truly communed with (fill in the blank with name of just about any Deity Entity you can think of, as It has for certain communed with at least one person in that community over the Aeons) God, brought back a description of a Truly Understanding, Compassionate, Kind, Loving, even Forgiving God, that these 'stern people' seem to see themselves as being, "In Charge of what's Holy".
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No, God Loves Technology, like: More Modern Medicine vs. Less Faith Healing, and More Birth Control vs. Less Going Forth and Prospering.
I know the Sikhi see things my way, on this: We who care all Love what 'India' is trying to do.
God Loves Love, like: Less Blowing Things Up vs. More Mining The Moon and Asteroids for Raw Materials Without Casuing Any Harm To The Earths Environment; more Free Love (with Birth Control, and Respect for the Power of Love to Hurt Others) and LGBT Tolerance (they were "created" the way they are, they didn't simply "decide to be gay") vs. Less Stoning to Death and/or "Honor Killing" for Reasons Supposedly related to the violation of Commandments Given By The Great All-Knowing, All-Understaning, All-Caring, All-Loving, and All-Forgiving God.
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Wouldst but that we all liveth in such a realm!

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Will be eagerly waiting for your thought sharing and of others in this.
Thanks & regards
Tejwant Singh[/QUOTE]

Tejwant Singh ji thanks for your post. I have started working on the project. I have completed two Ashtpadian. However I believe I need to do bit more before I start posting. I am getting pretty much in Synch with Guru ji's thoughts but some words I am trying to find better interpretations or essence of.

From a positive point of view it is going little better/faster than I expected since there is considerable focus in the shabads to hammer certain points so that we all idiot(s) (at least I call myself such in comparison to the Guru jis) have no confusion on what they are driving at.

Sat Sri Akal.

Ambarsaria ji,
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We are no experts, But learners some may be seekers. You can post First ashpadi in parts as these are fairly lengthy. In the mean time,permitting time, you may keep on working on the next ashtpadi. If you post the entire Astpadi in a single post, I apprehend, the learners like me would find it very difficult to assimilate.
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Kindly give it a thought. Also please begin a new thread for this purpose.

Thanks and Regards,