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Bhenji,

The creators words appear in your postings through your hand, and shine brightly, which for me they do frequently, when I read what you write, this is not being critical, this is clarification and correction, and never stop!

I am extremely grateful to be corrected, as it also means I have learned something new
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Harry Haller ji let us look at the excerpted below from your post,

some comments below,
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If I were Khalsa,
  • Creator/creation really does not care if you are Khalsa or not
I would say that any action that I do, that puts my gratification above the comfort of a fellow human being, is taking me away from consonance,


  • Creator just creates and does not watch. Creator/creation does have rules and limits which are ever changing in terms of consonance.
  • So there are three aspects to living in consonance,
    • Living in consonance within and with yourself: This is the peace you have whereby if you are living in consonance with yourself, your outside is the same as your inside. That is an objective for Khalsa for sure but also of great value if you are going to achieve piece of mind, body and mind in synch, so on.
  • Creator and creation really does not care what you do here. You have been given options to choose from all moments in your life.
    • Stealing Alloo paratha fits here.
  • Living in consonance with others of same species: Creation and creator when introduces you into your species as a son or daughter for humans, it just equips you with basics tool set for survival and growth but provides you the embedded ability and flexibility to be as you want to be.
  • Creation and creator again are not deeply concerned if a species decides to destroy itself, become bad or becomes good.
  • Creator/creation does like the species to live to their fullest potential, any species that does so has great future in general.
  • Creator/creation does not create all good or all bad acts focused people at the time one is created.
    • Each however has the flexibility and potential to do more good or more bad acts.
    • Creator/creation really does not care for interactions within a species and members thereof. Creator/creation has embedded enough communal attributes for a species to manage its internal affairs.
    • Species can manage it so where what was bad at one time may be good at another time and vice versa.
    • Not only that, within groups in the species, good or bad may be different within different groups.
    • Conflict resolutions within species are not for the creator/creation to manage. The species needs to do so in its own wisdom and capabilities.
    • There will be instances where in spite of all this a species or groups within species may appear or disappear temporarily in observable and limited time horizons we humans (or a given species) know of and where we are.
    • Creator/creation which once created a species and groups within can always do so again at a place, planet or a star of its choosing. So in grand scheme of things we kind of matter some but not a whole lot.
    • Living in consonance with rest of creation: Now this is where the creator/creation has keen interest. When creator/creation creates a mosaic at a given moon, planet, star, galaxy, it has a global view of things as well as a local view. For example a local view of planet earth. So what is the creator/creation looking for,
        • Each species to live in consonance with others.
        • It is not a hard boundary but an ever changing one.
      • Minor violations of such consonance may lead to such things as,
        • Diseases due to poor sanitation.
        • Diseases due to excessive use of antibiotics
        • Diseases due to animal farming and meat production poor conditions
        • Excessive use of chemicals in farming, etc.
        • There is a large list of such.
  • Major violations of such consonance may lead to such things as,
    • Flooding due to deforestation
    • Flooding due to wrong dams located in wrong locations.
    • Segmented population decimation not respecting local forces like earth quake zones, living in areas subject to possible sunamis, living in areas prone to monsoon rain and associated flooding, etc.
      • Can we know all the dangers, the answer is no. But we can live better if we use what we know and as the knowledge grows.
      • There is a large list of such.
  • Catastrophic violations of such consonance may lead to such things as,
    • Incurable diseases
      • For whatever reasons of eating habits, living habits, thinking habits, treating other species the wrong way, etc.
    • Global Warming
      • If our wisdom is right, and we forecast an ice age because of it, none should be surprised to see such affects over time
    • Many more items can be ascertained
    • There is also an external entity which may be difficult to ascertain or plan against,
      • Astroids hitting the earth
      • Etc.
      • However the creator/creation has the capacity to recreate if so choosen, many earths and many species including our own in places we have not thought of or will never think of.
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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36428
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36428
thank you kindly for taking, once again, so much trouble to assist in my enlightenment, for one person to give another the gift of his knowledge and understanding, summed up so neatly in the above is truly a great gift, and I thank you very much,

I apologise for for any embarrassment in my appreciation of this, but is going to be printed out and framed on my shop wall.!

I think the answer to the question 'is god evil' can only be answered by someone who believes in 'god'.

There is no evil, no sin, no punishment, no guilt, just creation and consonance, and dare I say it, common sense and understanding of the above

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