Same Sex Marriage Ceremonies in Gurdwara

The British East India Company was active in India from the early 1700's to my knowledge. During that period the British and Portuguese were in competition for economic advantages around Agra and further into the south. The British played a politica/diplomaticl game vis a vis the Persian court in the north because trade routes through the North were important. They thought it better to support what appeared to be a tough and stable Persian governance. Once the Persian/Moghul political structure began to crumble, then the British eyed Punjab with more active interest. Until then they were content to remain in the background. And yes, Punjab seemed invincible, not that they did not try to gain a foot hold, until the collapse of the rule of Ranjit Singh.

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SPNadmin ji

Let me give you a practical example here.These days in cities like Delhi you can easily see Guards,nurses etc which are bare earning 5000-10000 per month having mobile handsets worth Rupees 10-15 thousands .Now an average life of mobile handset is 1-2 years as mostly people end losing or breaking their phones .Most of the feature in phones are not even usable for them ,they can get cheap handsets ranging from 1500 to 3000 rupees .The money they could save for future or families is being spent on useless mobiles ,what will you call it?

spnadmin ji seems busy.

In reference to misuse of money on Phones and your question, "what will you call it?"

I will call it going along with the times.
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Sat Sri Akal.

And what about need of money in 100 of other places of life ?At that time you start crying we are poor we don't have money

Are you saying that if the British never went to India, there would be no materialism in India?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=36102

And yes, the British did a lot of things in history which were underhanded and cruel. Like most other human civilisations on the planet. Go humans.

kds1980 ji take a deep breath please don't get angry. Not everyone thinks like you, me, spnadmin, ishna, harry haller, the person buying the phone, etc. That is life. You don't set rules for others and they don't set rules for you.

Let us have a cool discourse versus "lower case" shouting in posts. Some of the posts might as well be in capitals.

Have a great morning and a great day and same to everyone at spn.

Sat Sri Akal.

PS: Ishna ji British are as normal as anyone else if not very civil and I prove it with the following,



My father at a Tea Party hosted by the Queen in London, UK. See how intently she is listening besides being a Monarch. She is much Younger than my deceased father when the picture was taken and is showing sense of great understanding and manners that will put many to shame. British recognized Sikhs and understood them better than anyone else. Yes there were issues but those are run of the mill when countries try to take over other countries.

I am not angry ,i don't understand why my post give impression that I am in rage,is it because I don't use smilies :

Oh God, that smilie thingy is magic. Do use these and I many times do. What a service by Mai Harinder Kaur ji.

Your post changes to a mellow delivery by at least 50% with that smilie. No kidding, it helps.

Have a great day. Put that cup away I want to . I hope you are not Homophobic as I only mean a basic Jaffi (hug) of friendship and nothing more.

Sat Sri Akal.

I apologise for using the word dragged,maybe it only applied to me at the time, however you do have a point, whenever I have been in India, yes, the atmosphere has been different, the lack of merc S classes, people dressed for Gurdwara, not a night club, the langar a nice simple affair, the distinct lack of chatter from the aunties, I concede dear friend that the Gurdwaras, and the concept of worship outside of India is possibly different, so I will limit my comments to my own experiences in the UK.

However, I think the constant blame of the rise in materialism on the west is unfair. I agree with your comment about nurses buying top end mobile phones they possibly cannot afford, but we are now going down another path here. This subject is extremely close to my heart, are you easily influenced? no. That is one thing I do respect about you, you are educated and intelligent, if somewhat closed minded, but you will stand for what you believe in, as indeed will I. If people are that malleable that they will copy and imitate what they see in the decadent west, well then if it isn't mobile phones it would be something else. Sometimes you speak of India as this perfect, socialistic, spiritual country that was led astray by the West. Dear friend what is the point of all the spiritualness and socialism in the world if the majority cannot resist the temptations that are put before them. Are we who we are because we have been kept away from temptation, or can we define ourselves given the presence of this temptation. Example, a gursikh married, non drinking, gets into bad company, starts drinking, sleeping around, ends up divorced living in a bedsit, whose fault? You may blame the company, I would say that if our gursikh was complete in himself , it would not be that easy for him to be led astray. You are like a father wanting to protect his young from modernisation and all the pitfalls that it comes with. At some stage you have to expose people to life, and that includes wanting to have the latest phone, and the biggest car, making mistakes, realising that next time the phone will have to wait, that big cars are costly to run, the people will educate themselves, ultimately, hopefully we will see a society that has seen it all, done it all, and has moved on to something better