Components of Your Faith

Navdeep88 · #1 (**permalink**) 28-Jan-2011, 11:11 AM

Dear Members,

I am interested in your understanding of your faith. Particularly, how much of it stems from INTELLECT and how much from HEART because the interaction seems crucial. What is YOUR formula or process to build, sustain and honor your faith?

Thank you.
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findingmyway · #2 (**permalink**) 31-Jan-2011, 17:22 PM

After reading Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji my faith makes complete sense and inspires me to be a better person. Since I am a person who is ruled by my head rather than my heart, intellect plays a bigger role for me. My faith is my support. It is about the only thing I remain sure of and helps get me through the low points in my life.

Navdeep88 · #3 (**permalink**) 01-Feb-2011, 13:06 PM

Thank you findingmyway ji,
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I also usually rely on intellect... But its a funny thing, on the one hand its needed for self-discipline, to get through life etc, but sometimes backfires because the brain... talks, frets, worries, makes excuses non-stop! I think intellect is an excellent, absolutely necessary tool for faith.

Seeker9 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-Feb-2011, 05:29 AM

Great question Navdeep88 Ji

I use intellect to translate and reflect on what I have learned

I then have faith in that process!

In doing so....I am not confusing intellect with a faith in Science that it has all the answers to life's questions

Intellect is my "reasoning engine" to make sense of the world around me
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JimRinX · #5 (**permalink**) 02-Feb-2011, 07:52 AM

Interesting Question, Navdeep ji!
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But then I'm always wrestling with it; as I'm something of a 'lay-polymath', with a far reaching knowledge of everything from relativity to quantum chromo dynamics, but I also had a kind of 'epiphany' - I left my Body behind, spoke to God, then returned - and, afterwards, there was a pronounced white streak in my hair that had not been there before.
Perhaps God made that happen because Hirm knew that that was the only way I'd ever be able to convince myself (as many Psychiatrists and Atheist Sceintist would also like to) that the Experience was REAL - rather than just some Halucination; some Lucid Dream; some misfiring of the neurons in my temporal and visual cortices - as Hirm knew that I would know that such things as the transmutation of matter (like removing the melanin protein {which colors the hair} from the colloidal keratin suspension {which hair is}, in order to turn it white, while simultaneously reprogramming the methylation groups in my hair folicules DNA, so that only that small bundle of hairs would continue to grow white for the rest of my days; as only "matter transmutation" - by Miracle, or impossible Star Trek Technology - could account for this happening) were still centuries in our future, if they're possible at all.
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This is also why I think Sikhism is a True Belief; as I, too, have, "Walked - though I had no legs; Seen - though I had no eyes......"
Believe! I can assure you, no one snuck up behind me with a bottle of peroxide, while my body was lying on the grass, and my Spirit was traveling about the Local Group!

Adi Nanaki · #6 (**permalink**) 02-Feb-2011, 08:04 AM

My faith begins with semi-waking and doing a morning blessing of all human facets, (ie may my eyes see only truth), requesting that the Guru carry the blessing deeply to open the eyes of all his beloveds to truth. My cold shower includes ten squats front and back calling on each of the ten Gurus--total bliss! I do a full Nitnem Paath as a way of engaging with the Gurus each day. Jaap Sahib is done with Sat Kriya, where I powerfully chant Sat Nam to its rhythm and call on the 10 Gurus to wash the world. This task was given to me by Guru Gobind Singh when he placed a 3-D image of the world on my fingertips during this kriya five or so years ago, asking me to wash, rinse and wring it out. I relax with Tawv Prasad Swaya and Anand Sahib. Rehiras is recited with Z TVs broadcast of the evening Golden Temple program. My three evening meditations are used to call upon the Gurus to bring prosperity, blessings and healing to people in need and to all the world. My day is winds down with Kirtan Sohila in bound lotus just before going to bed, where I call on the Gurus by breathing them into me to feel each of them in essence and be carried to their holy realm as I sleep. In living with the Gurus this way they have blessed with the gift of calling upon them to vastly come through and bless and heal others--a meditative Healing Ardas.
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Sat Nam!

lddgnz · #7 (**permalink**) 02-Feb-2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JimRinX

Interesting Question, Navdeep ji!
But then I'm always wrestling with it; as I'm something of a 'lay-polymath', with a far reaching knowledge of everything from relativity to quantum chromo dynamics, but I also had a kind of 'epiphany' - I left my Body behind, spoke to God, then returned - and, afterwards, there was a pronounced white streak in my hair that had not been there before.
Perhaps God made that happen because Hirm knew that that was the only way I'd ever be able to convince myself (as many Psychiatrists and Atheist Sceintist would also like to) that the Experience was REAL - rather than just some Halucination; some Lucid Dream; some misfiring of the neurons in my temporal and visual cortices - as Hirm knew that I would know that such things as the transmutation of matter (like removing the melanin protein {which colors the hair} from the colloidal keratin suspension {which hair is}, in order to turn it white, while simultaneously reprogramming the methylation groups in my hair folicules DNA, so that only that small bundle of hairs would continue to grow white for the rest of my days; as only "matter transmutation" - by Miracle, or impossible Star Trek Technology - could account for this happening) were still centuries in our future, if they're possible at all.
This is also why I think Sikhism is a True Belief; as I, too, have, "Walked - though I had no legs; Seen - though I had no eyes......"
Believe! I can assure you, no one snuck up behind me with a bottle of peroxide, while my body was lying on the grass, and my Spirit was traveling about the Local Group!

No disrespect Jim but you couldn't have made it more complicated

ZaraONE · #8 (**permalink**) 02-Feb-2011, 09:35 AM

Dear Navdeep
Thanks for posing the question.

Total unconditional Faith and surrendering to the Infinite Eternal Guru is the path that works well for myself and will work for humanity as a whole.

Japji and Rehras are two musts for me it is the "energy connection" to keep the light ON. During the day Gurbani random ang selections an excellent site at www.searchgurbani.com

Intellect as in be vigilant, allow time to contemplate the "data" being presented to you via inner and outer intuitive nudging. Don't waste too much time analyzing just go with the flow and Trust ... the biggest lesson to learn is go with the flow because the Universal ONE has much bigger eyeballs than we little things and knows the best path to get you from A to B!
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"Experience" is key, not blind faith and heresay. Then the knowledge of each journey must be shared to allow others to contemplate and see if it makes sense in their own journey. We all have unique gifts which we must put effort into activating in this lifetime, which will "reveal" our purpose and storyboard for this lifetime.
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I have written a free e-book on my web site StarMinds Connecting the Dots at www.unitedstarminds.com and free information in the Evidence Room which you can read to see how Guru is communicating but we must all "tune into the right energy frequency" to understand the very subtle communication happening around us.

Enjoy and let me know if you have any further questions.

PS: Your ID is 88, I see this number often, look up ANG 88 and see Guru's message for you, everything is intelligent, everything.

Ambarsaria · #9 (**permalink**) 02-Feb-2011, 10:18 AM

For me faith is normal transition between a mix of aspects. The mix has changed over time and generally can vary event by event, day by day though most of the time with a baseline.

So I say,

So when I was born it was,
- 100% Heart, 0% Intellect
So when I was 5 years old it was,
- - 95% Heart, 5% Intellect
So when I was 10 years old it was,
- - 80% Heart, 20% Intellect
So when I was 15 years old it was,
- - 65% Heart, 35% Intellect
So when I was 20 years old it was,
- - 55% Heart, 45% Intellect
So when I was 30 years old it was,
- - 50% Heart, 50% Intellect
.
.
.
I project when I am near death
- It will be 5% Heart and 95% Intellect

Bottom-line is, that for me the Heart and Intellect have changed over time.
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Sat Sri Akal.