Correct Pronunciation of Waheguru

Ambarsaria · #28 (**permalink**) 11-Jan-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh

Jasleen Ji, Thanks. Yes this is the book although this looks like an older copy. The latest 2001 edition is printed using computerised fonts and very nice to read. Computerised means cna use Bold italics etc for emphasis hence easier to comprehend.

Prof sahib Singh did this monumental work in the ealry 1930s...and then based his darpan on this foundation. Thast why the darpan is logical and carries the true spirit of Gurbani most of the time. ( I say most of the time because in some instances, the Vedic environment/saffron enviornment that any scholar born and bred in Punjab will be..even Prof sahib Singh fails to get the Gurbani Essence and goes in the wrong direction...BUT not many....the earlier teekas like the Faridkotee Teeka is too heavily vedic and saffronised..so much so that it seems that the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is just another Ved..and the Sikh gurus had nothing new and Guru nanak ji just expanded on the OM to make EK oankaar !!)

Gyani Jarnail Singh ji I really appreciate some of the backgrounders and tid bits you drop in your posts.

I grew up at Khalsa College Amritsar in the era just later part of the 50s and mid 60s and I bet you I saw Professor Sahib Singh ji once in awhile during his visits after his retirement from there. I clearly remember Professor Waryam Singh ji's name from that time.

I have been reading parts of his Gurbani Darpan more or less as result of my participation and encouragement/positive dialog here at SPN.

My respects to you, Aman Singh ji and spnadmin ji for great site and constructive at times direct but truth and sikhism centric discourses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjc1x4V4y6c&feature=player_detailpage

Sat Sri Akal.

spnadmin · #29 (**permalink**) 11-Jan-2011, 10:31 AM

Ambarsaria ji
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Aman Singh is the brains behind this operation. I am here gur prasaad.

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #30 (**permalink**) 11-Jan-2011, 10:51 AM

Heres a link about Prof sahib Singh..and the history is written by his good friend Dalip Singh of USA. Scroll down and be AMAZED at How he began the discovery of GURBANI GRAMMAR.......and you will see the similarity between him and How NEWTON discovered the Principle of Gravity by watching an apple fall !!
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Millions of people before Newton saw apples fall....
Thousands of Readers before Sahib Singh participated in Continous readings of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji...BUT then NEWTON..and Sahib Singh came along.....and we get the Laws of Gravity...and Gurbani Grammar !!

Enjoy...
http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/P...or_Sahib_Singh

Ambarsaria · #31 (**permalink**) 11-Jan-2011, 11:02 AM

Gyani Jarnail Singh ji yes I was reading through that earlier today. Wonderful human being, humble, thankful, respectful of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji while identifying his own limitations in the monumental tasks he completed.

How many such people are needed to right the ship of Sikhism today?

May Sikhism see better days.

Sat Sri Akal.
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PS: I think spnadmin ji and Aman Singh ji are related. One likes coffee the other likes tea.

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #32 (**permalink**) 11-Jan-2011, 11:18 AM

Ambarsariah ji..
You have brought many smiles.... we at SPN are one big family and we laugh and we play and we are serious...as in Gurbani..hasendiah khendiahn..or nachan kuddna man ka chao..
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And I love Hot Chocolate (Bounavita in Punjab )...but MILO/Ovaltine in Malaysia...
a little bit of coffee in the mornings...and a little bit of chah at chah time !!
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But my ALL time favourite is LASSI...can down a baltee anytime....anywhere..anyhow !!

Thanks for all the kind words and wishes..stay with us at SPN..and enjoy the Journey.
Jarnail Singh:happykaur:

:happymunda :

onspjo · #33 (**permalink**) 13-Jan-2011, 04:39 AM

Hpannuji,
I think I got what you are saying:
For sihari and ounkarh--
When anywhere else other than end(like beginning or middle), pronounce it.
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When in the end, do not pronounce it.
When in the end with vowels(like irhi, urha, erha etc.), pronounce it.

Since Waheguru is one word, the sihari with H should be pronounced.

Thanks all for participating and it has helped, and enriched many of us with all the book references and video(about Prof. Darshan Singhji- haven't checked it yet but sure will).

Does this site and discussions qualify as SANGAT?

spnadmin · #34 (**permalink**) 13-Jan-2011, 05:09 AM

Thanks ji

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Does this site and discussions qualify as SANGAT?

For many SPN members it does and it is!

For that we are grateful to be of service.

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #35 (**permalink**) 13-Jan-2011, 07:27 AM

YES DEFINITELY WE ARE SANGAT. Sangat is defined as Company of the learned...learners...fellow seekers...and we are all that and more.
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Bhagat Kabir Ji advises...IF you meet a SAKAT..run away as fast as you can...because a SAKAT is not likely to be converted by YOU..BUT YOU can fall due to him...
Guru Nanak Ji advises...When you meet a learned person..a fellow seeker..a devotee...kichh sunneah...kicchh kaheah..Nanaka..ASK questions..and LISTEN !!
GURMATT is Based on the Foundation of ASKING QUESTIONS....and then LISTENING TO THE ANSWERS. Guru Angad Ji declares..That IF you do BOTH ( ask and REFUSE to Listen ) then YOU ARE SUNK !! SWAAL JWAAB DOHEHN KAREH..muddhon khutthah jayeh... a person who questions and answers himself...is Muddhon khutthah jayeh means LOST even before he begins the journey !!
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WELCOME One and ALL !!! CYBER SANGAT !!

rangesingh::redtu rban:

CaramelChocolate · #36 (**permalink**) 16-Jan-2011, 00:04 AM

Very interesting, especially as over the past few days I have begun learning punjabi. The book says that when the small
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Sihari is added on to the end of the word it denotes a level of respect, but does not affect the pronunciation. Take the example of sat (true) and sat (extract), both different spellings, but sound the same with different meanings.

Vaah and guru are two separate words, and the siharee on waah is one of respect, So this begs the question do we pronounce this sound of respect when it is added to guru to create a new word?

Just some thoughts. My knowledge on south Asian language is very limited. This is an interesting issue but it is a purely lingusitic one. God has many names and yet he has none, I believe that the love and devotion behind doing simran is the most important, not the method or pronounciation.

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