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Old 19-Mar-2012, 22:49 PM
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Satnaam Sat Sangat Ji,

In all forms of life, if something has to blossom...you need to look at the 'root' cause of the problem...
unless our next generations are bought up with Simran and Seva as method of feeling at peace along with education, brushing their teeth etc etc...then there will continue to be confusion amongst people.

the problem is that children are being told to keep their hair, but not given the deeper meaning, the power, the divine connection it has because the parents themselves do not know why they have kept their hair...its an endless cycle.

I Pray to god that when i have children that through Gods grace, i can show them the beauty of remembering Veheguru's name and helping and serving his creation...so that my Children in return can also show me where i am going wrong...Gods evolution
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When the inner form (pure soul) shines its light though every pore of our being, then our outer form will shine brighter than a thousand suns. and when the world cries for help, i pray that our outer form acts like a lighthouse and that our purity can guide people across the terrifying world ocean.

During my mediations, i have felt energy trickle all over my body including my hair..
these are things you cannot describe to someone when they are focussed on wanting scientific reasoning for keeping their hair. or why we cut our nails. God is your Breath of life...literally, when you start to feel his prescence within you, you will then understand everything you need to know.
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Concentrate on your simran to all the confused people...do your scientific research...record your experiences, your obstacles, your feelings every month. You will experience youself evolving that i can promise you and then god will tell you himself from within whether you should cut your hair or not or keep your nails, whether you should wear nike or adidas



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Re: Why are we not allowed to cut hair when it's ok to cut nails, since both are created by God?

All the answers are within us. This is how naam simran can really help us all individually.

With regards to my own hair, I never gave it much thought before,
I have been mona my whole life which just went with my upbringing. I have now not cut my hair for 10 months or so and it's still growing. If I tell someone that I may keep a khes- they just don't for the slightest believe me since I have always been famous for my hairstyles and dress sense.
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Non of this matters to me anymore. Since doing simran/meditation I have actually felt an attachment and strength with the keeping of long hair. It's not Samson or anything like that, that i'm talking about. But I somehow realise that there is power/strength whatever you want to call it with maintaing long hair. The thought of cutting it makes me cringe.
I pray to the Lord to give me this continued strength. I hope I can go ahead and keep a khes. It's not anyones suggestion or even any goal that I set. It is basically an attachment to not being attached to hairstyles..etc... I hope I am able to maintain a khes with dignity. At this very moment in time, I am sure, infact I know I am doing the right thing. What happens in a year from now, I can't say, but I can't think of any strong reasons to keep myself as a mona any more. No one except myself have been involved with this choice of not cutting. Maybe it comes automatically when one starts to purify themselves from within, I can't say for sure. But it just seems the most natural and correct thing to do at this moment in my life.
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Within us all, we can all determine what is right or wrong, we have had this ability since being little infants. Many of us will say it's just logic, but the answer comes from within us. I may never get this feeling or chance to keep a khes again, so I shall pursue this decision very wisely.
Being a khalsa and within it's image is the perfect example we can set for the young.
Like Chaz ji said, many of us with a khes don't even realise its significance. I am very lucky that I can actually feel it's significance even though i'm mona.
This is all thanks to the almighty creator that pervades everywhere including within us.

Waheguru
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You dont realise the "Feel Good factor"...until you are GURPARSAAD....bottom line. Most have an attachment to their "looks"...thats why they cut and style...or maybe its recommended becasue Guru ji also advises..Paggh chunn chunn ke bandhi...a dastaar should be vaery carefully and neatly tied...and thats attachment too...a lot of Offices require formal dress in office..others say naything goes..its all a matter of choice..
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Re: Why are we not allowed to cut hair when it's ok to cut nails, since both are created by God?

Satnaam Sat Sangat Ji,

Its a Joy reading all your messages...Sangat is all powerful and enlightening.

The truth is nothing on the outside matters when the inside is rotton to the core.
I wear a turban, i stand out at work, in a crowded railway station...wherever i go.
People assume i am a certain way...but within myself i am filled with Ego and Filth...I can try to fool myself into thinking i am pure and a good person...but the negative aspects exist...i can feel them waiting to pounce on me. If i am making no attempt to purify myself of the 5 thieves...then I am a conman, and of no use to anyone. My outer dress is meaningless.

akhar parr parr bhuleeai bhaekhee bahuth abhimaan ||
Reading their books over and over again, people continue making mistakes; they are so proud of their religious robes. Siree Raag 61

houmai karath bhaekhee nehee jaaniaa ||
Acting in egotism, the Lord is not known, even by wearing religious robes. Raag Gauree 226

baahar bhaekh a(n)thar mal maaeiaa ||
Outwardly, they wear religious robes, but within is the filth of Maya. Raag Gauree
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The secret weapon is Simran/Meditation on the Naam of Wahegury Ji. The method with which one can cure all negativity inside them. I am on the path to recovery...I wish all the Sangat would walk down this path with me
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With Purity, your Souls Light will shine brightly...God will walk with you literally...and he will dress you as he pleases..and your life will truely be under his hukam. People will recognise you from your outer dress, and will be guaranteed to get nothing but un-conditional love from you. they will be speaking to God through you....a pure true khalsa


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You dont realise the "Feel Good factor"...until you are GURPARSAAD....bottom line. Most have an attachment to their "looks"...thats why they cut and style...or maybe its recommended becasue Guru ji also advises..Paggh chunn chunn ke bandhi...a dastaar should be vaery carefully and neatly tied...and thats attachment too...a lot of Offices require formal dress in office..others say naything goes..its all a matter of choice..
Attachment is a disease...desire is a disease..

Even the desire to wear a stylish turban so that you look good.
the pride that someone may have in their turban is also a disease.

when this pride and desire and attachement is controled...god will live through us all....It will be God that is tying our turban in the morning, or combing our hair..whether it is Cut or Not. He will keep us as he pleases...

We will be representing God. and he will make sure we are beautifully dressed and changing the lives of the people we meet.

Daily Simran and Seva with the knowledge that you are serving Gods creation is the Key to all ailments
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ChazSingh ji sorry you are going over board with your generalizations and end game as for as I think.
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Attachment is a disease...desire is a disease..

Calling all these a disease is a disease. Using your brain to be a fine good looking or pretty person example of creation is not a disease. Creator did not give us all so we close our eyes and just chant or do simran. This is a disease of not recognizing the gift of the brain that we are given by the creator.


Daily Simran and Seva with the knowledge that you are serving Gods creation is the Key to all ailments
To think you are serving God is a disease. God/creator does not need your service. Living in recognition of the creation all round and doing so in positive consonance is all that is required. Simran is not a pre-requisite to it.
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ChazSingh ji sorry you are going over board with your generalizations and end game as for as I think.
Sat Sri Akal.
In Sikhism there does exist a trip switch, a failsafe device designed to kick in to stop Sikhs sitting in mountains with matted hair, it is the diktat that tells us that we must live as householders, as real people, with real feelings, accomplishments, goals, desires.

Chazji, I think you are a fine person, and as stated earlier, your posts always impress me with your devotion, but there is also happiness, joy and pleasure in living as a householder, I have to agree with my Veer Ambarsariaji
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Calling all these a disease is a disease. Using your brain to be a fine good looking or pretty person example of creation is not a disease. Creator did not give us all so we close our eyes and just chant or do simran. This is a disease of not recognizing the gift of the brain that we are given by the creator.

pa(n)ch bikhaadhee eaek gareebaa raakhahu raakhanehaarae ||
The five vicious thieves are assaulting my poor being; save me, O Savior Lord! Raag Gauree
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you are right, the lord didnt create all this so we can shut our eyes and just chant or simran.


If we dress ourselves, and do our daily actions without the influence of Ego, Desire, Greed, Lust, Anger, attachment then we start to dress oursleves and do our daily actions beautifully instead with Pure Love, compassion, care for another, happiness for all mankind, Trust in each other, commnunity progression, forgiveness (these are the true Godly attributes amongst his infinate attributes)

Then Ambarsaria Ji, you will Truely live in the beauty of Gods beautiful creation.
then you can enjoy the lovely taste of an apple and appreciate its beauty without feeling the desire to have an apple.
Then you can appreciate all that you have in this world as a gift, without the greed for wanting more.
Then you can enjoy the creativity and engineering brilliance of a ferrari while thinking you own nothing, and nothing is actually yours and not get upset and angry if someone scratches the car or some kids kick a ball through its windscreen.
Then you can look into the eys of another less fortunate and see god deep in their heart and feed them.
Then you can enjoy the beauty of your partner without a single thought of wanting to be with another woman....not even a perverted glance at another woman in the street.
Then you can leave your kids with a complete stranger knowing they have also defeated their 5 thieves and the God in them will love and look after your kids like they are their own.

Anger, Desire, attachement, greed are all subsets of EGO.
They are all selfish traits, they are characteristics associated with pleasing one-self.
If you think these are not a disease to yourself or to mankind then what else can i say apart from what Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji has said in the above quote?

To think you are serving God is a disease. God/creator does not need your service. Living in recognition of the creation all round and doing so in positive consonance is all that is required. Simran is not a pre-requisite to it.

Satnaam Ambarsaria Ji,
The beauty of Gurbani is that it offers you an answer for everything
Please read the beow gurbani.
aapae mothee oojalo aapae bhagath baseet(h) ||
You Yourself are the perfect pearl; You Yourself are the devotee and the priest.
You Yourself are the ocean and the boat. You Yourself are this shore, and the one beyond.
thoo(n) aapae jal meenaa hai aapae aapae hee aap jaal ||
You Yourself are the water, You Yourself are the fish, and You Yourself are the net.
god is everywhere and god IS EVERYTHING...we cannot escape him...so if you help an old lady across the street...please believe 100% that you are serving his creation i.e Him. You cannot get out of this.

jin saeviaa thin paaeiaa maan ||
Those who serve Him are honored.

jo saevehi jo saevehi thudhh jee jan naanak thin kurabaanaa ||2||
Unto those who serve You, unto those who serve You, Dear Lord, servant Nanak is a sacrifice. ||2||

karo baena(n)thee sunahu maerae meethaa sa(n)th ttehal kee baelaa ||
Listen, my friends, I beg of you: now is the time to serve the Saints!

nith ahinis har prabh saeviaa sathagur dheeaa naam ||2||
Day and night, continually serve the Lord God; the True Guru has given the Naam. ||2||

How wonderful gurbani is, it answers everything: )....of course god doesnt need serving...He's the greatest there is...There is none other than god To Serve God is to Serve his creation with all the non-slefish, non Ego-centred loving attributes mentioned above. to love everyone and everything with the same love you have for your own children and family...then we understand the meaning of One.

When a mother goes through the pain of giving birth to children...if the children love and respect each other and be there for each other thorugh the good and bad times...then the children are serving the beauty of what has been created by the creator..the created, and the creator are in harmony with one another for the sole purpose of enjoying pure love...god is love literally

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In Sikhism there does exist a trip switch, a failsafe device designed to kick in to stop Sikhs sitting in mountains with matted hair, it is the diktat that tells us that we must live as householders, as real people, with real feelings, accomplishments, goals, desires.

Chazji, I think you are a fine person, and as stated earlier, your posts always impress me with your devotion, but there is also happiness, joy and pleasure in living as a householder, I have to agree with my Veer Ambarsariaji
Satnaam Harry ji,

The beauty if Simran is that it is to be done in the household...and not in the mountains..

Please quote where i have stated that we should sit in the mountains
We need to keep close to what each other are saying, otherwise we have to keep repeating everything over and over and people stop reading the sangats comments

Simran is more than chanting...chanting is a mechanical process...
If you add PURE Love (which is god himself, and is infinate), and if we sit, contemplate his greatness, ask him questions, listen to his answers, his guidance, feel his being that exists in each and every pore of yourself...god is your breath of life...feel your breath...vibrate the sounds of gurbani along your breath...feel the gurbani vibration thorughout your body and spine...God is the breathe of your life. Believe it, live it, feel it, experience it....THIS IS SIMRAN my friends... tune into His frequency...he's right there...inside of you.

guramath naam maeraa praan sakhaaee har keerath hamaree reharaas ||1|| rehaao ||
Through the Guru's Teachings, the Naam is my breath of life. The Kirtan of the Lord's Praise is my life's occupation. ||1||Pause||

so kio manahu visaareeai jaa kae jeea paraan ||
How can you forget the One who created your soul, and the praanaa, the breath of life?

jis kae jeea paraan hai man vasiai sukh hoe ||2||
He is the Giver of the soul, and the praanaa, the breath of life; when He dwells within the mind, there is peace. ||2||

eikas kaa man aasaraa eiko praan adhhaar ||
The One is the Support of the mind; the One is the Support of the breath of life.

not just a chanting of a mantra.
Let there not be any confusion in gurbani...it is as clear as night and day

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