Is Believing In God Evolutionarily Advantageous?

seeker3k · #19 (**permalink**) 11-Sep-2010, 23:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ac_marshall

Going by the basic principles of science, something cannot be created from nothing. Newton's second law says "Every object continues to remain at rest or uniform motion unless compelled bya Force to act otherwise". Applying these to the subject of evolution, there should be a source from which Universe came to existence. There should be a source that provided energy to the Universe. There should be a source that triggerred evolution and sustained it and still keeps it going.

That eternal source in my belief is the Almighty (Bismillah, Parabrahm, Akal or whatever name we use to call the eternal creator).

I'm an Engineer. Looking from the physics point of view my analysis leads me to the above conclusion.

The earth we live on is part of this solar system is not bigger then mustard seed in the universe. We have no idea what the whole universe look like. Our mind can not grasp it. Science is trying to understand it but the religious people don’t even want to think about it. It give them comfort that their guru or prophet told them their God is the only God that have created us and the universe. When all these gurus or so called prophets lived there was no concept of universe. The earth was the center of every thing.
Why do we believe that it was nothing in the beginning? Or was there begging?
If there is source as some think then does that source needed to be worshiped as the religious people are worshiping?
Religion have made of robots, that’s not what we are. We have brain we can analyze matter and our self
It is only by studying science we can be liberated.
If there is source so be it why waste time on it.

prakash.s.bagga · #20 (**permalink**) 12-Sep-2010, 00:02 AM

Respectable SEEKER3K
I would like to bring to your kind attention that there is absolute clear concept THE CREATOR of the UNIVERSE in Sikh phylosophy.According to this we are supposed to know THE CREATOR of the UNIVERSE thru letter and words only.Just as we have the knowledge about invisible forces in science thru letter and words only .e.gOur knowledge about Gravitational Force is related to the letter "G",and Magnetic Force to the letter 'M" like that.Similarly thru Gurbaani we come to know that the CREATOR of the UNIVERSE is a SYSTEM to be known by the letter and word as EKONKAARU/EKANKAAR.AND the whole UNIVERSE is to be knownas the infinite expansion of this SYSTEM only.This SYSTEM and its MODEOF EXPANSION has been described thru
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DIVINE WORDS which constitutes the basis of real srituality to get oneself connected with this SYSTEM EKANKAARU/EKANKAAR.
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THE SYSTEM itself is PLURAL in its PHYSICS.The source of the SYSTEM is the NON ACTIVE State of the whole matter of the UNIVERSE at time ZERO.

PRAKASH.S.BAGGA

Seeker9 · #21 (**permalink**) 12-Sep-2010, 02:27 AM

Like I said before, very interesting article and question. Having thought about it I would have to say No. I would add that I think Sinister Ji sums it up rather well in an earlier post
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The lack of a spiritual focus has not held back development in the animal kingdom...just look at whales which as a species have been swimming around for 50 million+ years. Their evolution has been just fine....sadly the only sustained threat to them has been us supposedly civilised and evolved humans
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Had the question been in terms of social development and civilisation then my answer would have been a resounding yes

Good article though and I have enjoyed the subsequent discussion

Seeker9 · #22 (**permalink**) 12-Sep-2010, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by prakash.s.bagga

Respectable SEEKER3K
I would like to bring to your kind attention that there is absolute clear concept THE CREATOR of the UNIVERSE in Sikh phylosophy.According to this we are supposed to know THE CREATOR of the UNIVERSE thru letter and words only.Just as we have the knowledge about invisible forces in science thru letter and words only .e.gOur knowledge about Gravitational Force is related to the letter "G",and Magnetic Force to the letter 'M" like that.Similarly thru Gurbaani we come to know that the CREATOR of the UNIVERSE is a SYSTEM to be known by the letter and word as EKONKAARU/EKANKAAR.AND the whole UNIVERSE is to be knownas the infinite expansion of this SYSTEM only.This SYSTEM and its MODEOF EXPANSION has been described thru
DIVINE WORDS which constitutes the basis of real srituality to get oneself connected with this SYSTEM EKANKAARU/EKANKAAR.
THE SYSTEM itself is PLURAL in its PHYSICS.The source of the SYSTEM is the NON ACTIVE State of the whole matter of the UNIVERSE at time ZERO.

PRAKASH.S.BAGGA

There have been some fine posts on this thread including this one

But I wonder if I could respectfully ask everyone to consider the question in the title of this thread..i.e is BELIEF in God Evolutionarily Advantageous

There have been a number of posts that consider the role of God in the evolutionary process but I think the question being asked is different

What do others think?

And what would your answers be to the specific question?

Narayanjot Kaur · #23 (**permalink**) 12-Sep-2010, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeker9

There have been some fine posts on this thread including this one

But I wonder if I could respectfully ask everyone to consider the question in the title of this thread..i.e is BELIEF in God Evolutionarily Advantageous

There have been a number of posts that consider the role of God in the evolutionary process but I think the question being asked is different

What do others think?

And what would your answers be to the specific question?

Seeker ji

I agree. We have gone off into quantum physics and theories of evolution. Which was extensively reviewed on threads related to the existence of God. The title of this thread has a decidedly different intent judging from the starter article. The core issues are cultural and psychological and yes the discussion has drifted.

prakash.s.bagga · #24 (**permalink**) 12-Sep-2010, 07:44 AM

Respectable SEEKER 9 Ji
Belief in any concept should have the base of correct knowledge about the concept itself otherwise the belief would not take place.So belief is outcome of the correct knowledge.In this respect the contents all SPN;s are useful.
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PRAKASH.S.BAGGA

consciousness · #25 (**permalink**) 12-Sep-2010, 12:19 PM

The Famous Physicist Stephen Hawkins, in his latest book; The Grand Design; has said that God had no intervention in the creation of the Universe. In other words, God did not create the Universe. "Because there is a law such as Gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing."

consciousness · #26 (**permalink**) 12-Sep-2010, 13:07 PM

I fully agree with Sinister 9 and Seeker. But if we don't analyze and disect the question, and don't consider the misguided people who kill others in the name of God, I would have to say that Believing in God helps in the Evolution of the Soul.

prakash.s.bagga · #27 (**permalink**) 12-Sep-2010, 13:11 PM

Respectable Consciousness Ji
Fully agree with the view presented by your good self.You have rightly comprehended the contents of mysubject.Many many thanks
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Prakash.s.Bagga