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Dear Kanwardeep Singh Ji,
I was not asking to be appreciated, I was just trying to say that there are 2 sides to every story. Please forgive me if I came across as being confrontational or accusatory as that was not my intention-I was merely trying to give examples.

The point I am trying to make (but not very elegantly) is the blame game gets us nowhere. Just like it hurts you when males are attacked, it hurts me when females are attacked. By attacking each other we increase the bad feeling. There are good and bad people on both sides so it is unfair to say that females are responsible for these problems and males are responsible for those problems. As I said above, we are all at fault to some degree. I don't think either sex has caused more problems than the other but each one faces their own problems and prejudices. I'm sure every man has felt injured by a female in some way during his life, and every female has felt injured by a man in some way during her life!

People who are going to move out the fold simply need an excuse. Unfortunately the excuse often given is that "females don't like such and such a thing" or "men don't like such and such a thing". BOTH men and women need to be strong in their beliefs and do what is right so these things cannot be used ans an excuse. Why are we all so concerned with what other people think (myself included)?

Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/31895-desperate-housewives-where-sikh-women-have.html
I strongly believe that rather than slandering each other and making blanket assertions about 50% of the world's population, like minded people should be working together to tackle issues and to persuade people to do the right thing and come back into the fold of Sikhi. There is a lot of evidence of this being done. However, posts like this (I mean the post as a whole and not you in particular) undermine some of that work. It gives the people who are straying more fuel as they can label us as bitchy and hypocritical (whether we are or not).
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=31895

Posts in other forums have not achieved anything by accusing men of not doing the right thing. Therefore if any man writes the same about women, how will that make the wrong thing right? Just because there are other posts blaming men, why does that give men the right to slander women here or anywhere else? Equally just because there are posts slandering women, it does not give the right to women to slander men. Whats been said cannot be taken back so lets try and move forward together.

I've just realised how long this reply has become. I hope it doesn't sound like a lecture-it is merely some of my own thoughts. We are all a sum of our experiences! We are not innocent but neither are you So lets all start taking responsibility for ourselves (myself included)

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Dear Kanwardeep Singh Ji,
I was not asking to be appreciated, I was just trying to say that there are 2 sides to every story. Please forgive me if I came across as being confrontational or accusatory as that was not my intention-I was merely trying to give examples.
Findingmyway ji

What I said is not personal about you .Nowhere I said that you are asking for appreciation
What I was saying is in General.

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The point I am trying to make (but not very elegantly) is the blame game gets us nowhere. Just like it hurts you when males are attacked, it hurts me when females are attacked. By attacking each other we increase the bad feeling. There are good and bad people on both sides so it is unfair to say that females are responsible for these problems and males are responsible for those problems. As I said above, we are all at fault to some degree. I don't think either sex has caused more problems than the other but each one faces their own problems and prejudices. I'm sure every man has felt injured by a female in some way during his life, and every female has felt injured by a man in some way during her life!
Actually I never get hurt when I see legitimate criticism of sikh men or boys.If these days People(men,women,sikh non sikh) say that Young sikh men are alchoholic or They are not brave as their forefathers use to etc because these things are true
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Wonderful-that means we are on the same way. So lets change this discussion into what can be done about these things.............
For example how can we stop the rise in alcoholism among Sikhs? Any ideas??
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Education general & Gurmat is the only answer to this problem . The knowledge of Sikhi amongst Sikhs is abysmally low . Only 1% IMHO can spell out the name of TEN GURUS in sequence & only .001% know the contents of Sikh Rehat Maryada a mere 13 page booklet . Even otherwise also the level of education among Sikhs is very low it needs to be boosted up by any means to amke them the citizens of 21st century .
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