Does the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Actually Mention God?

All this talk on Atheism, has got me thinking. Does the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji actually mention the word God, or does it actually just mention something else. Not God as in the Semitic concept.
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For example, the first few lines of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji describe "God" as:
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29610

Sat - Truth
Akaal Moorat - beyond space and time
Even Ek Onkaar - does not even mean God strictly!
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Randip Singh

Those who renounce meat, and hold their noses when sitting near it, devour men at night.
They practice hypocrisy, and make a show before other people, but they do not understand anything about meditation or spiritual wisdom.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Page 1289
Fools Who Wrangle Over Flesh

Randip Ji
In our daily nitnem Japjisahib, we utter Oh vaikhai ona nadar na avaeh bahuta eh vidaan.

Best regards
Mohinder Singh Sahni

ਅਸਟਪਦੀ ॥ असटपदी ॥ Asatpaḏī. Ashtapadee:

ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਰਾਖੁ ॥ अबिनासी प्रभु मन महि राखु ॥ Abẖināsī parabẖ man mėh rākẖ. Keep the Immortal Lord God enshrined within your mind.

ਮਾਨੁਖ ਕੀ ਤੂ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਤਿਆਗੁ ॥ मानुख की तू प्रीति तिआगु ॥ Mānukẖ kī ṯū parīṯ ṯi▫āg. Renounce your love and attachment to people.

ਤਿਸ ਤੇ ਪਰੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਕਿਛੁ ਕੋਇ ॥ तिस ते परै नाही किछु कोइ ॥ Ŧis ṯe parai nāhī kicẖẖ ko▫e. Beyond Him, there is nothing at all.

ਸਰਬ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਏਕੋ ਸੋਇ ॥ सरब निरंतरि एको सोइ ॥ Sarab niranṯar eko so▫e. The One Lord is pervading among all.

ਆਪੇ ਬੀਨਾ ਆਪੇ ਦਾਨਾ ॥ आपे बीना आपे दाना ॥ Āpe bīnā āpe ḏānā. He Himself is All-seeing; He Himself is All-knowing,

ਗਹਿਰ ਗੰਭੀਰੁ ਗਹੀਰੁ ਸੁਜਾਨਾ ॥ गहिर ग्मभीरु गहीरु सुजाना ॥ Gahir gambẖīr gahīr sujānā. Unfathomable, Profound, Deep and All-knowing.

ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਪਰਮੇਸੁਰ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ॥ पारब्रहम परमेसुर गोबिंद ॥ Pārbarahm parmesur gobinḏ. He is the Supreme Lord God, the Transcendent Lord, the Lord of the Universe,

ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਨਿਧਾਨ ਦਇਆਲ ਬਖਸੰਦ ॥ क्रिपा निधान दइआल बखसंद ॥ Kirpā niḏẖān ḏa▫i▫āl bakẖsanḏ. the Treasure of mercy, compassion and forgiveness.

Randip ji,

Guru Fateh.

A very good question. That is the reason I ask all people of other beliefs or non- beliefs, which mainly include Atheists and Muslims when they visit this forum if they understand what " God" is according to Sikhi, and from there questioning it is quite apparent that they have preconceived idea of a deity God in Sikhi which is due to absence of any thought process or inkling to research the matter first before jumping to any kind of conclusions.

IK ONG KAAR means ONE SOURCE OF ALL that there is, has been and shall be. The latter part is explained by Guru Nanak in the first pauri of Jap.

So, IT is neither a personified deity that the Atheists define as "God" but not theirs because they have no belief in it. The funny part is that how can one define something/someone that one claims does not exist? Nor is it exclusive to any one religion or school of thought that claims that " God" only sent their people as the exclusive Messengers, Prophets..

Did the concept of monopoly start in this manner?

I would urge these people to ask questions first or read and understand Gurbani on their own rather than coming with their concept of God to the Sikhi forum and declaring it to be the best dish they have brought for this pot luck get together.

Tejwant Singh

Tejwant ji

I would urge people also to ask questions and read and understanding Gurbani on their own before declaring that "God" does not exist as per Gurmat, or that Sikhism is a variant of "atheisim" as they define it.

I would further urge people to study some philosophy under the tutelage of reputable teachers before they come up with their own concept of "atheism" and then serve it up as the best dish they have brought for this pot luck get together.

:happykaur:

speaking of potlucks, what should be done with the leftovers?



the abrahamic god seems like an emotional person, judgemental, subject to wrath and anger.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29610

so the question I must ask is:

does god in sikh scripture show any attributes of human emotion?

if yes, then expanded:
is this expression of emotion, described in scripture, qualitatively the same as that felt in a 'typical' (for lack of a better word) social or environmental medium?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=29610

How to solve:
so, what is the understanding of emotion that is expressed within sikh scriptures?

Namjab ji, does:

Abẖināsī parabẖ man mėh rākẖ.

Actually mean God?

Please analyse the words.

Everyone else, thanks for your input.

More I am reading Bani, more I am thinking the Sikh concept of "God" is waaaaaaaaay different from any other concepts there are in other religions.

Randip Ji..absolutley right..the EK Oangkaar is EK Oangkaar and thats how we should "translate" ..the normal God..Lord etc sound so inadequate...

ਸਲੋਕੁ ॥ सलोकु ॥ Salok. Shalok:

ਅਗਮ ਅਗਾਧਿ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਸੋਇ ॥ अगम अगाधि पारब्रहमु सोइ ॥ Agam agāḏẖ pārbarahm so▫e. Unapproachable and Unfathomable is the Supreme Lord God;

ਜੋ ਜੋ ਕਹੈ ਸੁ ਮੁਕਤਾ ਹੋਇ ॥ जो जो कहै सु मुकता होइ ॥ Jo jo kahai so mukṯā ho▫e. whoever speaks of Him shall be liberated.

ਸੁਨਿ ਮੀਤਾ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਬਿਨਵੰਤਾ ॥ सुनि मीता नानकु बिनवंता ॥ Sun mīṯā Nānak binvanṯā. Listen, O friends, Nanak prays,

ਸਾਧ ਜਨਾ ਕੀ ਅਚਰਜ ਕਥਾ ॥੧॥ साध जना की अचरज कथा ॥१॥ Sāḏẖ janā kī acẖraj kathā. ||1|| to the wonderful story of the Holy. ||1||

Yes Randip,

The Sikh concept of the Unapproachable and Unfathomable God
is different from the Ram Rahim which appear in Puranas and the Quran.

It is the mind that tries to arrive at concepts because it cannot witness a multi-directional reality which is beyond its natural habitat. In other words, the mind cannot operate beyond the space-time continuum.