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Quoted from a passage by S. Rattan Singh Jaggi
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...these days people do not follow the ideology of Guru Nanak and his message in our practical life, which is the cause of decline of the
religion...


Finally there is a realization that Sikhism is on a decline.The Reasons?

To begin with, today there is the very question of Sikh identity, and to define who is a Sikh. This time there is no government interference in religious affair of the Sikhs,no outside movement or influence but the decline has stemmed from within the Sikhism.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=28825

Many young Sikhs, find the turban a bother. It gets in the way when they take to sports & swimming. Washing & drying the long hair is time-consuming, as is the morning ritual of winding seven yards of cloth around the head. It is hot and uncomfortable.

In the end,there is also a question of fashion. They feel smarter without it.

Sikh spiritual leaders express dismay at the rapidity with which a new
generation of young men are trimming their hair and abandoning the
turban, the most conspicuous emblem of the Sikh faith.Indeed, as the defining symbol of the Sikh tradition declines, its hard not to think of the core of the religion as declining as well.

They have adopted,the globalization probably has had a greater impact, European habits: fast food, pubs and clubs. They want to show they are modern. They are willingly & votuntarily forgetting their own culture. Another 20 years will pass and the world wont have any more
Sikhs in turbans.

There is this terrible, misplaced urge to merge with the rest of the
world, said Patwant Singh, a historian and the author of The Sikhs
(John Murray, 1999).

The Sikhs are practicing rites and ritual inconsistent with Sikhism, Including
the practice of caste system into Gurdwaras, secretively smoking drugs &
publicly Drinking, Idol worshiping and other rituals not followed by the Sikh Gurus .

Much of the blame is to be shared by half-educated,Ignorant priestly class also called ironically 'Gianijis' who are spreading superstitions & falsehoods to earn tax-free income.

The following News item speaks more:
"Groups of Sikh priests have protested an order that could disbar men
under the age of 30 and over 60 years to be employed in gurdwaras
across Punjab, Haryana and Himachal Pradesh.SGPC president
Avtar Singh Makkar had recently endorsed the new recruitment rules for
granthis and paathis (hymn singers) following complaints against
younger priests. These ranged from moral turpitude to several instances of
devotee collections in gurdwaras. Insisting there could be no compromise on maintaining the sanctity of the shrines, Mr Makkar called for a list of all
Gurdwara employees below 30 years and ordered a thorough verification of each mans antecedents.The committee has also sought a fresh appraisal of each priests character, conduct, his knowledge of the holy scripture and
efficiency in performing various religious rites."
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They have adopted,the globalization probably has had a greater impact, European habits: fast food, pubs and clubs. They want to show they are modern. They are willingly & votuntarily forgetting their own culture. Another 20 years will pass and the world wont have any more
Don't worry even after 20 years I am sure we have Anti DG,pro DG ,anti meat pro meat and other issue's fighting with each other believing that they are saving sikhism from RSS,GOI,kala afghana,atheists islam etc
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That is pretty funny Kanwardeep Singh ji -- I think your prediction will hold up!
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=28825

On another note, why, when I read this article, do I have the sensation that I am in the dead center of a sandstorm or tornado of some kind? If this is a list of issues and concerns, they we should add to it, because there are other problems that the author has not even mentioned that are far more serious than some things listed. And I don't understand what he means by "globalization." Globalization is unavoidable no matter what your religion, race, creed, language, country of origin, parent's country of origin, native language, employment, and so forth. Sikhi should be able to survive the onslaught of history. If the gurus and shaheeds survived ghastly torture and decimation, if Sikhi survived the raj, then it should be a snap to survive globalization. We are doing it now.
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A Sikh should always smile and stay in chardi kala and accept will of God. Guru Gobind Singh walked out of chamkaur di Grahi with only three Sikhs left. And he did not contemplate the decline but sang 'haal mureedan...'. Sikh = Chardi Kala. Always.
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Dear All,

IMHO there is no decline in Sikhism as defined in the philosophy of Guru Nanak. Of course there is a decline of Sikhs wearing 5 K's. IMHO with the advent of Sikh Forums on internet Its presence is much more known in the west and more individuals are studying it as a universal, simple faith in one Universal Creator. Humans are divine having a human experience. The cause of the trouble is I-Me-Mine complex (Eg0/Haumai). IMHO it is a Universal religion. I can vouch for that It will be there for eternity.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=28825
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Full Article;www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/24594-sikhism-a-universal-religion.html -

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Dear Khasa Ji,

Sikhi is the Philosophy and Khalsa is a Panth. Earlier also it was as it is. During Ranjit Singh many none sikhs also had Kesh; may be that was political need of the time. It does not mean that the followers of Sikhi were more. Sikhi is the Philosophy which directs our living .

Earlier also there were few Sikhs, in sukhmani Sahib Guru Sahib has said there is one in millions that is not afflicted by the desire for gratification of senses. In present time also the situation is the same. Even I have found many people of other religion who came be classified as good followers of what Guru Sahib has said.

Panth is Akaar, it has visibilit; Sikhi is Nirakaar, it has to be experienced.

I do not think there is any decline it Sikhism, the decline may be in its instutions and leadership, which can always be improved. Sikhi is as it was.
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With Love and Respect for all.
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Quality over quantity, I say
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Quality over quantity, I say
Let me also quote a famous sikh quote

Raj Bina naa dharam chale Dharam bina sab dale male hain

And you cannot have Raj with quality only
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Guru Gobind Singh also said he was here to watch the "jagat tamasha".

Humanity's insanity is part of its programming.

The Guru Gobind Singh quote you provided was absolutely bang on. But it's not necessarily saying that this ideal is ever going to be achieved.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=28825

Also, the religion is going to end up being propagated by people who are fuelled by their egos and who lack a genuine understanding of it - the people who believe themselves to be 'in charge' of Sikkhi. If that is the case, then who is to say which is the lesser of two evils? Indeed, who is to say that evil isn't part of the natural order of things.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=28825

We humans scurry in a desperate attempt to produce Heaven on Earth and to tell other people what to do. But we rarely stop to ask why.

The answers are always hidden between the lines.
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