Satnam and Vaheguru

Satnaam.info - 30. What is Naam?
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What is Naam?

There is a gross misunderstanding among the masses concerning what is the Naam, or what Naam means, or how and where the Naam can be obtained and what Naam should be used for meditation. The reason behind this situation is a result of the preaching practices used globly by the modern day preachers..................Kindly Read on....

 
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Gurbani is all about "ACTION"..and not just mantras, verbal repetitions, malas,rosaries, counters etc to keep count of how many times such and such word is repeated...

GURBANI is about ACTING on the RECIPES given in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..to Change our daily Lives...act on the advice..Naam is ACTION..action and more ACTION....
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ACT "TRUTH..SATNAAM..in daily Life..not just keep on saying."satnam satnam satnam and think that is Naam..its NOT..its just parrotting like a cd player playing in a Loop !!
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ACT..NIRBHAU..like Guru Teg bahdur Did in Chandni Chowk...ACT Nirvair..like Guru Arjan Ji did on the Hot Plate...ACT ACT ACT...

SADLY more and more sikhs under the bhaehkava..misled by Babas and sants are going for meaningless repetitions..countings and Ritualised parrotting of certian words as mantras jantras and think they are doing Naam simran...

Gyani ji, you are absolutely right.Majority of the Sikhs recite Gurbani as a mantar.Far from acting upon it, they don"t even understsad the meaning of Shabad they are repeating like a parrot.The sadest thing is they,under a false illusion believe themselves to be vey pious and religious persons.

In the above article the author has pointed out that Naam is 'satnaam' and not 'vaheguru'. Some of us do meditate on 'Vaheguru'. Naam may be something that is given by The Satguru himself through, khande bate de pahul may be the first step wherein one is instructed to focus upon 'Vaheguru.'
Needless to state that the practice would be meaningful if we strictly follow the teachings as conatined in Dhan Guru Granth sahib ji.
If The creator is unfathomable so should be the naam i.e. the insignia of that order. But still we are instructed to practice it.

Naam is the pious name and is stated to be the precious jewel. It forms the edifice of entire sikhi.

Amrit Vela sach Naam vadaie Veechaar.

It may be that it is. Some of the places where the naam has appeared in bani is reproduced here.

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ਅਖਰੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਖਰੀ ਸਾਲਾਹ ॥
अखरी नामु अखरी सालाह ॥
Akẖrī nām akẖrī sālāh.
From the Word, comes the Naam; from the Word, comes Your Praise.
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 8, Line 12
ਜਿਨੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇਆ ਗਏ ਮਸਕਤਿ ਘਾਲਿ ॥
जिनी नामु धिआइआ गए मसकति घालि ॥
Jinī nām ḏẖi▫ā▫i▫ā ga▫e maskaṯ gẖāl.
Those who have meditated on the Naam, the Name of the Lord, and departed after having worked by the sweat of their brows -
Guru Angad Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 10, Line 2
ਹਮ ਕੀਰੇ ਕਿਰਮ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸਰਣਾਈ ਕਰਿ ਦਇਆ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਰਗਾਸਿ ॥੧॥
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हम कीरे किरम सतिगुर सरणाई करि दइआ नामु परगासि ॥१॥
Ham kīre kiram saṯgur sarṇā▫ī kar ḏa▫i▫ā nām pargās. ||1||
I am a mere insect, a worm. O True Guru, I seek Your Sanctuary. Please be merciful, and bless me with the Light of the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||1||
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 10, Line 3
ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਮੇਰਾ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਸਖਾਈ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਹਮਰੀ ਰਹਰਾਸਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
गुरमति नामु मेरा प्रान सखाई हरि कीरति हमरी रहरासि ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Gurmaṯ nām merā parān sakẖā▫ī har kīraṯ hamrī rahrās. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Through the Guru's Teachings, the Naam is my breath of life. The Kirtan of the Lord's Praise is my life's occupation. ||1||Pause||
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 10, Line 8
ਧਨੁ ਧੰਨੁ ਸਤਸੰਗਤਿ ਜਿਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਮਿਲਿ ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਰਗਾਸਿ ॥੪॥੪॥
धनु धंनु सतसंगति जितु हरि रसु पाइआ मिलि जन नानक नामु परगासि ॥४॥४॥
Ḏẖan ḏẖan saṯsangaṯ jiṯ har ras pā▫i▫ā mil jan Nānak nām pargās. ||4||4||
Blessed, blessed is the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation, where the Lord's Essence is obtained. Meeting with His humble servant, O Nanak, the Light of the Naam shines forth. ||4||4||
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 11, Line 16
ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰਹਿ ਤਿਨਿ ਨਾਮ ਰਤਨੁ ਪਾਇਆ ॥
जिस नो क्रिपा करहि तिनि नाम रतनु पाइआ ॥
Jis no kirpā karahi ṯin nām raṯan pā▫i▫ā.
Those who are blessed with Your Mercy obtain the Jewel of the Naam, the Name of the Lord.
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 12, Line 7
ਮਿਲੁ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਭਜੁ ਕੇਵਲ ਨਾਮ ॥੧॥
मिलु साधसंगति भजु केवल नाम ॥१॥
Mil sāḏẖsangaṯ bẖaj keval nām. ||1||
Join the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy; vibrate and meditate on the Jewel of the Naam. ||1||
Guru Arjan Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 13, Line 13
ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਧਾਰੁ ਟੇਕ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੇ ਹੀ ਸੁਖੁ ਮੰਡਾ ਹੇ ॥੪॥੪॥
जन नानक नामु अधारु टेक है हरि नामे ही सुखु मंडा हे ॥४॥४॥
Jan Nānak nām aḏẖār tek hai har nāme hī sukẖ mandā he. ||4||4||
Servant Nanak takes the Sustenance and Support of the Naam. In the Name of the Lord, he enjoys celestial peace. ||4||4||
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 15, Line 13
ਏਤੇ ਰਸ ਸਰੀਰ ਕੇ ਕੈ ਘਟਿ ਨਾਮ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੨॥
एते रस सरीर के कै घटि नाम निवासु ॥२॥
Ėṯe ras sarīr ke kai gẖat nām nivās. ||2||
these pleasures of the human body are so numerous; how can the Naam, the Name of the Lord, find its dwelling in the heart? ||2||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 16, Line 6
ਲਿਖੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਾਲਾਹ ਲਿਖੁ ਲਿਖੁ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਪਾਰਾਵਾਰੁ ॥੧॥
लिखु नामु सालाह लिखु लिखु अंतु न पारावारु ॥१॥
Likẖ nām sālāh likẖ likẖ anṯ na pārāvār. ||1||
Write the Praises of the Naam, the Name of the Lord; write over and over again that He has no end or limitation. ||1||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 16, Line 19
ਘਰ ਮੰਦਰ ਖੁਸੀ ਨਾਮ ਕੀ ਨਦਰਿ ਤੇਰੀ ਪਰਵਾਰੁ ॥
घर मंदर खुसी नाम की नदरि तेरी परवारु ॥
Gẖar manḏar kẖusī nām kī naḏar ṯerī parvār.
The Naam, the Name of the Lord, is the pleasure of houses and mansions. Your Glance of Grace is my family, Lord.
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Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 17, Line 7
ਓਨਾ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਧਾਨੁ ਹੈ ਨਾਮੋ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ ॥
ओना अंदरि नामु निधानु है नामो परगटु होइ ॥
Onā anḏar nām niḏẖān hai nāmo pargat ho▫e.
The Treasure of the Naam, the Name of the Lord, is within them, and through the Naam, they are radiant and famous.
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 17, Line 7
ਨਾਉ ਪੂਜੀਐ ਨਾਉ ਮੰਨੀਐ ਅਖੰਡੁ ਸਦਾ ਸਚੁ ਸੋਇ ॥੩॥
नाउ पूजीऐ नाउ मंनीऐ अखंडु सदा सचु सोइ ॥३॥
Nā▫o pūjī▫ai nā▫o mannī▫ai akẖand saḏā sacẖ so▫e. ||3||
They worship the Naam, and they believe in the Naam. The True One is forever Intact and Unbroken. ||3||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 17, Line 9
ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮਿ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਐ ਦਰਿ ਗਇਆ ਕਿਆ ਹੋਇ ॥੪॥੮॥
नानक नामि विसारिऐ दरि गइआ किआ होइ ॥४॥८॥
Nānak nām visāri▫ai ḏar ga▫i▫ā ki▫ā ho▫e. ||4||8||
O Nanak, those who forget the Naam-what will happen when they go to the Court of the Lord? ||4||8||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 19, Line 3
ਅੰਧੁਲੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਆ ਮਨਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਧ ਗੁਬਾਰੁ ॥
अंधुलै नामु विसारिआ मनमुखि अंध गुबारु ॥
Anḏẖulai nām visāri▫ā manmukẖ anḏẖ gubār.
The blind have forgotten the Naam, the Name of the Lord. The self-willed manmukhs are in utter darkness.
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 19, Line 9
ਜਿਨੀ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਆ ਦੂਜੀ ਕਾਰੈ ਲਗਿ ॥
जिनी नामु विसारिआ दूजी कारै लगि ॥
Jinī nām visāri▫ā ḏūjī kārai lag.
Those who have forgotten the Naam, the Name of the Lord, are attached to affairs of duality.
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 19, Line 15
ਜਿਨਿ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਬੂਝਿਆ ਮਰਿ ਜਨਮੈ ਆਵੈ ਜਾਇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
जिनि गुरमुखि नामु न बूझिआ मरि जनमै आवै जाइ ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Jin gurmukẖ nām na būjẖi▫ā mar janmai āvai jā▫e. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Those who do not become Gurmukh do not understand the Naam; they die, and continue coming and going in reincarnation. ||1||Pause||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 20, Line 9
ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮਿ ਸੰਤੋਖੀਆ ਜੀਉ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਪਾਸਿ ॥੫॥੧੬॥
नानक नामि संतोखीआ जीउ पिंडु प्रभ पासि ॥५॥१६॥
Nānak nām sanṯokẖī▫ā jī▫o pind parabẖ pās. ||5||16||
O Nanak, they are contented with the Naam, the Name of the Lord. They offer their bodies and souls to God. ||5||16||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 20, Line 12
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਲਾਹੀਐ ਹਉਮੈ ਨਿਵਰੀ ਭਾਹਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
गुरमुखि नामु सलाहीऐ हउमै निवरी भाहि ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Gurmukẖ nām salāhī▫ai ha▫umai nivrī bẖāhi. ||1|| rahā▫o.
The Gurmukh praises the Naam, and the fire of egotism is extinguished. ||1||Pause||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 21, Line 11
ਨਿਤਿ ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਸਤਗੁਰਿ ਦੀਆ ਨਾਮੁ ॥੨॥
निति अहिनिसि हरि प्रभु सेविआ सतगुरि दीआ नामु ॥२॥
Niṯ ahinis har parabẖ sevi▫ā saṯgur ḏī▫ā nām. ||2||
Day and night, continually serve the Lord God; the True Guru has given the Naam. ||2||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 21, Line 14
ਨਾਨਕ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਕਰਮਿ ਸਚੈ ਨੀਸਾਣੁ ॥੪॥੧੯॥
नानक नामु न वीसरै करमि सचै नीसाणु ॥४॥१९॥
Nānak nām na vīsrai karam sacẖai nīsāṇ. ||4||19||
O Nanak, never forget the Naam, the Name of the Lord; the True Lord shall bless you with His Mark of Grace. ||4||19||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 21, Line 16
ਜਿਨ ਖਿਨੁ ਪਲੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਨ ਵੀਸਰੈ ਤੇ ਜਨ ਵਿਰਲੇ ਸੰਸਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
जिन खिनु पलु नामु न वीसरै ते जन विरले संसारि ॥१॥ रहाउ ॥
Jin kẖin pal nām na vīsrai ṯe jan virle sansār. ||1|| rahā▫o.
One who does not forget the Naam, for a moment or even an instant-how rare is such a person in this world! ||1||Pause||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 22, Line 8
ਮਨ ਮਹਿ ਮਾਣਕੁ ਲਾਲੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਤਨੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਹੀਰੁ ॥
मन महि माणकु लालु नामु रतनु पदारथु हीरु ॥
Man mėh māṇak lāl nām raṯan paḏārath hīr.
Within the mind are emeralds and rubies, the Jewel of the Naam, treasures and diamonds.
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 22, Line 9
ਸਚੁ ਵਖਰੁ ਧਨੁ ਨਾਮੁ ਹੈ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਗਹਿਰ ਗੰਭੀਰੁ ॥
सचु वखरु धनु नामु है घटि घटि गहिर ग्मभीरु ॥
Sacẖ vakẖar ḏẖan nām hai gẖat gẖat gahir gambẖīr.
The Naam is the True Merchandise and Wealth; in each and every heart, His Presence is deep and profound.
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 24, Line 9
ਤਾ ਤੂ ਮੁਲਾ ਤਾ ਤੂ ਕਾਜੀ ਜਾਣਹਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਖੁਦਾਈ ॥
ता तू मुला ता तू काजी जाणहि नामु खुदाई ॥
Ŧā ṯū mulā ṯā ṯū kājī jāṇėh nām kẖuḏā▫ī.
You are a Mullah, and you are a Qazi, only when you know the Naam, the Name of God.
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 26, Line 7
ਜਿਨੀ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਸੇਵਿਆ ਤਿਨੀ ਪਾਇਆ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਧਾਨੁ ॥
जिनी सतिगुरु सेविआ तिनी पाइआ नामु निधानु ॥
Jinī saṯgur sevi▫ā ṯinī pā▫i▫ā nām niḏẖān.
Those who serve the True Guru obtain the Treasure of the Naam.
Guru Amar Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 26, Line 10
ਹਉ ਤਿਨ ਕੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰਣੈ ਜਿਨਾ ਨਾਮੇ ਲਗਾ ਪਿਆਰੁ ॥
हउ तिन कै बलिहारणै जिना नामे लगा पिआरु ॥
Ha▫o ṯin kai balihārṇai jinā nāme lagā pi▫ār.
I am a sacrifice to those who are in love with the Naam.
Guru Amar Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 26, Line 11
ਗੁਰ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਾਈਐ ਚੂਕੈ ਮੋਹ ਪਿਆਸ ॥
गुर मिलिऐ नामु पाईऐ चूकै मोह पिआस ॥
Gur mili▫ai nām pā▫ī▫ai cẖūkai moh pi▫ās.
Meeting with the Guru, the Naam is obtained, and the thirst of emotional attachment departs.
Guru Amar Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 26, Line 19
ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜੀਵੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਲੈ ਹਰਿ ਦੇਵਹੁ ਸਹਜਿ ਸੁਭਾਇ ॥੫॥੨॥੩੫॥
जनु नानकु जीवै नामु लै हरि देवहु सहजि सुभाइ ॥५॥२॥३५॥
Jan Nānak jīvai nām lai har ḏevhu sahj subẖā▫e. ||5||2||35||
Servant Nanak lives by chanting the Naam. O Lord, please give it to me, in Your Natural Way. ||5||2||35||
Guru Amar Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/SalokPage 27, Line 6
ਜਿਸ ਨਉ ਆਪਿ ਦਇਆਲੁ ਹੋਇ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਸਮਾਇ ॥੨॥
जिस नउ आपि दइआलु होइ सो गुरमुखि नामि समाइ ॥२॥
Jis na▫o āp ḏa▫i▫āl ho▫e so gurmukẖ nām samā▫e. ||2||
That Gurmukh, unto whom the Lord shows His Kindness, is absorbed in the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||2||
Guru Amar Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok


Naam simran is what sikhs consider as a pious duty and supposedly ,nay, for sure is the way to attain union with the Lord. It is to be practised even if it is like being in the loop may be never ending. Without Jap, Tap sanjam one cannot earn the Nectar so called as Amrit. Pakhandis are always there and we cannot help it but surely we can not stop practising 'Vaheguru' that it self is an amrit if one practices it only for half an hour at stretch.

Which one is Naam:- Satnaam or vaheguru.? Vaheguru is Guru-mantra. So we practice it and that is the way it has been told to us.
Kindly correct if it is not correct.
The subjectivity of any individual is appreciated.

E & O. E.

twinkle ji

I am very confused at this point.
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It is not clear what your premise is for some questions you are asking. What do you mean by The Satguru gives the mantar in Khande bathe de pahul? What/which Satguru are you talking about? The answer makes a difference because it is the context for the rest of your post.

I am not sure how you are connecting the shabad above to the question you are asking. Many shabads include the word "Naam" but the point of any shabad in relation to Naam can be quite different. So what is it that made you select this particular Shabad?
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Thanks.

Narayanjyot kaur ji,

The article marked as hyper-text link states that the Naam is 'Satnaam' and not 'Vaheguru'. This was the cause of confusion. You may also kindly go through the article. It states that one should concentrate on the 'satnaam'. It is the way the author has made his logic.


It is considered as per that I have understood, may be it is wrong, that one should focus on Guru Mantra and that is the Naam that we are supposed to consider. It is given by Staguru i.e. tenth Nanak who started the practice and had stated that the Amrit would be given thru. Panj Peary. As a matter of practice the panth has been following this approach hence I have all the reasons to believe that this Amrit is given by the satguru himself thru. the Panj Peary. No one other than the panj Peary can give this Amrit in the ceremony.

The entire Granth Sahib is full of appreciation of te lord.Mool Mantra explains the sikh philosophy.The following Paath of jap ji sahib is an effort to elaborate this. This also sings the praises of the lord and emhasises the significance of naam. Entire Granth Sahib ji is considered to be a guide Naam i.e the basic qualities that the human being is supposed to develop. However, the naam-simran is the single and most important attribute of the sikh's activities. Naam simran is ,infact, supposed to be the only activity that a sikh should ge engaged into. One cannot consider it as something that is unimportant. It may be parrot like recitation of the word 'Vaheguru'.May be we do not know the out come now but we shall be rewarded with when the time is ripe or our devotion to 'sabad' is of apprpriate and requisite level. Naam is Naam .It is the only manifest form of the absolute form of the Akaal .Hence naam simran, recitation of bani and acting accordingly as per the teachings of Dhan Sri Guru Granth sahib ji is the sum -total for the sikhs.
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IMHO my opinion this is what a sikh is supposed to do.

BTW the point here that is stressed is whether the word to be practiced is 'satnaam' or 'waheguru'.

As usual I seek for forgiveness for not stating clearly as to what I have posed as a question i.e. 'satnam' or 'waheguru'.
However, I believe it is 'waheguru' only.

For guidance in the matter. There are many of us including the author who are fickle mined and may be swayed by a generalized answer. It is requested that one should be specific in replying to this. My sincerest apologies for it caused any confusion. The title of the thread shoud be 'Satnaam OR 'Vaheguru'. May be you can change.It would reflect the question posed in this thread.
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Thx and Regards to all who have responded.
[Regarding 'sabad' , 'word of sabad' I shall try to contact you at your Profile only.]

twinkle ji

Before addressing the many statements, questions and opinions that you express in the comments above I have to speak to the "article" at the link you asked me to return to and review.

In my humble opinion there is a lot that is confused and/or misleading in your description of Sikhism above. And I am wondering if some of these ideas came from the "article" at that link. The link is to a web site "satnaminfo" which promotes the teachings of an individual, "DassanDass." This person is running a baba ji style operation even though he says he is not. So consider the link on the left of the home page where a person can make as he puts it a "one off" daswandh contribution. And on a folowing web page he/someone says Dassan Dass is a private person, so if you want to know him better, then you can download his biography as a pdf file. I didn't do it because I was too flabber-ghasted. Here is is a private person - humble perhaps? But he has a press release about himself all ready and good to go.
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So I won't be commenting on your comments based on his comments. And would warn all forum members to be careful for two reasons: he may be collecting personal information; and he may be providing his own "mat" instead of Gurmat even though he says he is not.

So let's see how far others get with your questions. I would only conclude by saying that Naam as "satnam" or as "waheguru" is part of "simran" but "simran" has a bigger meaning than the chanting the Name. Simran is one pillar but not the only pillar of Sikhi. All of the 3 pillars of Sikhi have many layers of meaning and they are interwined -- you cannot experience and practice one without the other. Lastly, simran as a practice is not restricted to Sikhs but is found among all dharmic faiths. I could be wrong, but I do not think it, the idea of a mantar for simran, was invented by Sri Guru Gobind Singh. Maybe I am misunderstanding your point.

I think there is a confusion and the best thing is to leave the things here for the time being lest we enter into some sort of avoidable controversy. I do appreciate your advice and the pains that you might have taken in reading the article that surprised me as it might have surprised you as well.

I give rest to this topic.

On the move

While Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is on the move the following is observed:

• Five initiated Sikhs accompany Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji at all times when traveling
• Another Sikh does Chaur Sahib seva
• The Main Sikh carrying Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji must put a clean Rumalla on his or her head before carefully and with respect placing Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji on this Rumalla. At all times, Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji should be covered with a small Rumalla so that Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji's Saroop is always fully "covered".Also the Sikh carrying Saroop of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji must have "Keshi Ishnaan" or Washed hair [Although not necessary but it shows respect to Guru Sahib]
• There should be recitation of "
  Waheguru
  Waheguru
  " at all times.

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