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Old 25-Aug-2009, 08:50 AM
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The Hindu/Sikh World is divided into Zaat Paat..based on ones occupation..
So..a farmer is a jatt..an Ironsmith is lohaar..a leather worker is chamaar.(popularly called Ravidassiahs after the most famous of all chamaars....Bhagat ravidass Ji.) .....a goldsmith is suniaar..shopkeeper is banniah/Arora...etc..etc
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IMHO..since we ALL have a SKIN...we are ALL CHAMAARS !!! anyone care to DISPUTE that ?? After all dotn we spend so much time and effort and MONEY dialy on taking care of OUR SKINS...expensive shampoos, lotions, baths, hair creams, sun bathing...and all this just for a PIECE OF LEATHER that covers US !!

THIS is PRECISELY WHAT Bhagat ravidass Ji tried to TEACH us through his Bani....and not only Bhagat ravidass Ji..Bhagat Kabir Ji..and all the ten nanaks..and everyone else whose Bani is in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..tried to do the same thing...BUT WE NEVER LEARNT !!



 
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Old 25-Aug-2009, 09:24 AM
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Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

Can anyone put it better?
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Old 25-Aug-2009, 10:12 AM
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Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

it's not about the occupation but the ego attached to it......Gyani ji !!
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Old 25-Aug-2009, 16:34 PM
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Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

Huck finn ji..you could be right...
earlier only the Brahmins pandits jaats had this "superirity" complex (ego)..
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26400
now everyone has it...no more "inferiority" complexes ...people are "proud" to admit and wear the labels...is this good or what ??
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Old 25-Aug-2009, 19:07 PM
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Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

err No.

We all have natural oils in our body so we're TELIS
We can add, subtract, multiply and do various other arithemetic so we're VAISHYAS(or accountants)
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26400
We all have an immune system which fights diseases so we're WARRIORS
Our body heals itself many times so we're VAIDH
We think about the world, god and other things which don't necessarily affect our body functions so we're all Brahmins
Our bodies get rid of the unused or dirty stuff so we're BHANGIS
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26400
and the list goes on......

I see what you're trying to do but we're not JUST chamars. We're a mix of everything.
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Old 25-Aug-2009, 21:01 PM
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Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

Thats a great addition ausdesi ji..THANKS. Good stuff for my Gurbani Classes discussions on castes..
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Old 25-Aug-2009, 22:38 PM
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Exclamation Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

hehe could not have put it better.

Maybe people should read about Chaamar/Churah Sikhs or Mazhabi Sikhs. If they did they would all be proud to be called Chamaar.
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Re: We are all CHAMAARS !!

At present the entire sikh community could be considered as vaishy's
For the sake of money we can do anything.We can leave our land,We can embrace other
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26400
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religions.We are ready to sell anything for the sake of money.The only thing that is mainly in the mind of majority of sikh community is money ,money money
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At present the entire sikh community could be considered as vaishy's
For the sake of money we can do anything.We can leave our land,We can embrace other
religions.We are ready to sell anything for the sake of money.The only thing that is mainly in the mind of majority of sikh community is money ,money money
when it is a question of money everyone is of the same religion - voltaire
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