
21-Apr-2010, 04:43 AM
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| | | | | Re: Living The Shabad Guru : My Thoughts And Feelings Gurfateh ji.
Shabad Guru is such a great experience some shabads calm you down makes you have a brighter outlook.Other Shabads gets your heart pumping some adrenaline. One of my favorite "Mere Man Ram Naam Chit Laye" truley a great experience. *
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__________________ Asa Mahalla 5 Bhéí prapat manukh dehuria. This human body has been given to you. Gobind milan kie ih terie baria. This is your chance to meet the Lord of the Universe. Awr kaadj téré kitè na kaam. Nothing else will work.
Mil Saadh sangat bhadj kéwal Naam. Join the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy; vibrate and meditate on the Jewel of the Naam. ||1|| | 
21-Apr-2010, 04:57 AM
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| | | | | Re: Living The Shabad Guru : My Thoughts And Feelings Thanks bahadur ji
The purpose of this thread was and is to share how the shabad guru acts in our daily lives and is not limited to mediation or once a week hukamnama in the gurdwara. It has always been a help to me. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/26127-living-shabad-guru-my-thoughts-feelings.html
Thank you for sharing your experience too. | 
21-Apr-2010, 05:20 AM
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| | | | | Re: Living The ShabadGuru: My Thoughts And Feelings Quote:
Originally Posted by jasbirkaleka Sat Sri Akal. I absolutely agree with Gyani Jarnail Singh.Most Sikhs are so ignorant,they recite GURBANI as a mantar, without understanding its meannig or the philosophy behind it.They believe if repeated again and again shabad will bring them riches and fortune. | Jasbir Kaleka ji,
A little to the side: Doesn't gurbani tell us to repeat Naam over and over again? Doesn't it say that doing so will in fact, bring fortune and riches? I am not so sure that the issue is so black and white, there are levels of ignorance.
Many Sikhs I have met equate Naam to Gurbani itself. In the process, Gurbani becomes a mantra that's to be chanted over and over. Here's the transition:
Gurbani contains praises of the Lord > Gurbani says to chant praises of the Lord > Chant (the relevant passages in) Gurbani
I am not sure how Naam and Praises of the Lord are related though.
... Its all in good faith and isn't that what it all boils down to when one speaks of religion, faith?
relevant quotes from srigranth.org: Quote: Page 23, Line 5 ਹਰਿ ਜਪਿ ਲਾਹਾ ਅਗਲਾ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਹਰਿ ਮਨ ਮਾਹ ॥੪॥੨੩॥ हरि जपि लाहा अगला निरभउ हरि मन माह ॥४॥२३॥ Har jap lāhā aglā nirbẖa▫o har man māh. ||4||23|| Those who chant the Name of the Lord earn great profits; the Fearless Lord abides within their minds. ||4||23|| Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok Page 89, Line 6 ਸੋ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿਆ ਵਡਭਾਗੀ ਤਿਨ ਨਿੰਦਕ ਦੁਸਟ ਸਭਿ ਪੈਰੀ ਪਾਏ ॥ सो गुरमुखि नामु जपिआ वडभागी तिन निंदक दुसट सभि पैरी पाए ॥ So gurmukẖ nām japi▫ā vadbẖāgī ṯin ninḏak ḏusat sabẖ pairī pā▫e. Very fortunate and blessed is that Gurmukh who chants the Naam; it shall bring all slanderers and wicked enemies to fall at his feet. Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok Page 18, Line 11 ਧਾਤੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਫੁਨਿ ਧਾਤੁ ਕਉ ਸਿਫਤੀ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਸਮਾਇ ॥ धातु मिलै फुनि धातु कउ सिफती सिफति समाइ ॥ Ḏẖāṯ milai fun ḏẖāṯ ka▫o sifṯī sifaṯ samā▫e. As metal merges with metal, those who chant the Praises of the Lord are absorbed into the Praiseworthy Lord. Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok | On the surface, it does appear like doesn't it?
I am sure you guys have a different, perhaps deeper, interpretation. | 
21-Apr-2010, 09:51 AM
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| | | | | Re: Living The ShabadGuru: My Thoughts And Feelings One such sabd, 'kapr rup suhavana chad dunia andar javna manda changha aapna aapai hi keeta aapnai' Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji 470.19 kept me wondering for few days as what link changa mandha relates with this pankti until I came to the conclusion to interpret, 'divine knowledge is so blissful thus abandon worldly show off and hyprocracy and instead divert your mind inside which will shake my conscience then only I will come know the reason of my sufferings. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26127Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26127
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21-Apr-2010, 10:02 AM
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| | | | | Re: Living The ShabadGuru: My Thoughts And Feelings Quote:
Originally Posted by japjisahib04 One such sabd, 'kapr rup suhavana chad dunia andar javna manda changha aapna aapai hi keeta aapnai' Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji 470.19 kept me wondering for few days as what link changa mandha relates with this pankti until I came to the conclusion to interpret, 'divine knowledge is so blissful thus abandon worldly show off and hyprocracy and instead divert your mind inside which will shake my conscience then only I will come know the reason of my sufferings.
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That is so beautiful. Today I was thinking that in the hukam - nama the shabad gives the reason in a most personal message. | | The following member appreciates Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
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| | | | | Re: Living The Shabad Guru : My Thoughts And Feelings ਪਉੜੀ ॥ Pa▫oṛī. Pauri. ਪਉੜੀ। ਕਪੜੁ ਰੂਪੁ ਸੁਹਾਵਣਾ ਛਡਿ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਜਾਵਣਾ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26127 Kapaṛ rūp suhāvaṇā cẖẖad ḏunī▫ā anḏar jāvṇā.
I am leaving this world naked after having worn beautiful vestments.
I was beautiful when I was here. ਮੰਦਾ ਚੰਗਾ ਆਪਣਾ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਕੀਤਾ ਪਾਵਣਾ ॥ Manḏā cẖanga āpṇā āpe hī kīṯā pāvṇā.
I am taking the fruits from the seeds I sowed in my life.
Many will be bitter and throny and perhaps a rare may be sweet ਹੁਕਮ ਕੀਏ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵਦੇ ਰਾਹਿ ਭੀੜੈ ਅਗੈ ਜਾਵਣਾ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26127 Hukam kī▫e man bẖāvḏe rāhi bẖīṛai agai jāvṇā.
I did here what I felt like, wandered around following my own wishes.
But from now on I will be walking on the razor’s edge. ਨੰਗਾ ਦੋਜਕਿ ਚਾਲਿਆ ਤਾ ਦਿਸੈ ਖਰਾ ਡਰਾਵਣਾ ॥ Nangā ḏojak cẖāli▫ā ṯā ḏisai kẖarā darāvaṇā.
How my nakedness is scary and ugly!
Where’s the beauty gone? ਕਰਿ ਅਉਗਣ ਪਛੋਤਾਵਣਾ ॥੧੪॥ Kar a▫ugaṇ pacẖẖoṯāvaṇā. ||14||
I regret the bitter and thorny fruits I have reaped from the seeds I sowed.
It is all my doing, my living in me-ism rather than in One-ism.
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji 470-14
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22-Apr-2010, 10:03 AM
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| | | | | Re: Living The Shabad Guru : My Thoughts And Feelings Really wonderful translation. I bet it is your own. | | The following member appreciates Narayanjot Kaur Ji for the above message. | | 
23-Apr-2010, 00:43 AM
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| | | | | Re: Living The Shabad Guru : My Thoughts And Feelings Narayanjot ji,
Guru fateh.
The interesting part is that our Guru is talking about himself which shows that our Gurus were one of us. They did not put themselves on the pedestal like the today's so called " Brahamgyanis". Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26127
After reading this beautiful poetry, one feels closer to the friend and the mate called our Guru because there is no vacuum which is created by the hierarchy in most of the religions. There is no generational or spiritual gap here either. It is all shoulder to shoulder, holding hands with your best friend. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26127
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| | | | | Re: Living The Shabad Guru : My Thoughts And Feelings This shabad always touches me deeply whenever I hear it.
Page 244 Guru Amar Das
ਮਿਲੁ ਮੇਰੇ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮਾ ਜੀਉ ਤੁਧੁ ਬਿਨੁ ਖਰੀ ਨਿਮਾਣੀ ॥
mil maerae preethamaa jeeo thudhh bin kharee nimaanee ||
Meet me, O my Dear Beloved. Without You, I am totally dishonored.
ਮੈ ਨੈਣੀ ਨੀਦ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਜੀਉ ਭਾਵੈ ਅੰਨੁ ਨ ਪਾਣੀ ॥
mai nainee needh n aavai jeeo bhaavai ann n paanee ||
Sleep does not come to my eyes, and I have no desire for food or water.
ਪਾਣੀ ਅੰਨੁ ਨ ਭਾਵੈ ਮਰੀਐ ਹਾਵੈ ਬਿਨੁ ਪਿਰ ਕਿਉ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਈਐ ॥
paanee ann n bhaavai mareeai haavai bin pir kio sukh paaeeai ||
I have no desire for food or water, and I am dying from the pain of separation. Without my Husband Lord, how can I find peace?
ਗੁਰ ਆਗੈ ਕਰਉ ਬਿਨੰਤੀ ਜੇ ਗੁਰ ਭਾਵੈ ਜਿਉ ਮਿਲੈ ਤਿਵੈ ਮਿਲਾਈਐ ॥ Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26127
gur aagai karo binanthee jae gur bhaavai jio milai thivai milaaeeai ||
I offer my prayers to the Guru; if it pleases the Guru, He shall unite me with Himself.
ਆਪੇ ਮੇਲਿ ਲਏ ਸੁਖਦਾਤਾ ਆਪਿ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਘਰਿ ਆਏ ॥
aapae mael leae sukhadhaathaa aap miliaa ghar aaeae || Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=26127
The Giver of peace has united me with Himself; He Himself has come to my home to meet me.
ਨਾਨਕ ਕਾਮਣਿ ਸਦਾ ਸੁਹਾਗਣਿ ਨਾ ਪਿਰੁ ਮਰੈ ਨ ਜਾਏ ॥੪॥੨॥
naanak kaaman sadhaa suhaagan naa pir marai n jaaeae ||4||2||
O Nanak, the soul-bride is forever the Lord's favorite wife; her Husband Lord does not die, and He shall never leave. ||4||2|| | | The following members appreciate findingmyway Ji for the above message. | | 
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