Chautha Pad: A Spiritual Life

Gyaniji, Guru Fateh !! i have earleir said that you are a master to twist the words and this is reference to that. Nothing new this time. As a joke it's o.k.
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Your joke remind of one similar incident of court where two lawyers were discussing. In the mean time, by provocation of the opponent lawyer said that he had not seen a fool like him. Order-Order, the judge replied," don't forget that he was still present there.
Who was the biggest fool-The lawyer or the judge by the circumstances?
Regards,
Ajmer singh Randhawa.
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Gyani ji, Guru fateh !!
Thanks for encouraging me to start a new thread naming 'CHAUTHA PAD'. it s to feed the psychic need of the soul.I and almost everybody is indulged in the life of 'TEEN PAD', and pass our whole life in satisfyinf our needs within.
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There are a few person like me who wish to achieve this life of Chautha pad but is it possible to achieve while passing our life in GRAHSTHI or family. We have certain duties imposed socially to carry on to look after the elders and take care of the family. Gurbaani denies to take care of family( as father,mother,son daughter etc. no one belongs to us and similarly we are not for them)but on the contrary it enforces to practice meditation while being in family. How is it possible? Please share your views.
Regards.
Ajmer Singh Randhawa.

[quote=Ajmer singh Randhawa;103720]Gyani ji, Guru fateh !!
Thanks for encouraging me to start a new thread naming 'CHAUTHA PAD'. it s to feed the psychic need of the soul.I and almost everybody is indulged in the life of 'TEEN PAD', and pass our whole life in satisfyinf our needs within.
There are a few person like me who wish to achieve this life of Chautha pad but is it possible to achieve while passing our life in GRAHSTHI or family. We have certain duties imposed socially to carry on to look after the elders and take care of the family. Gurbaani denies to take care of family( as father,mother,son daughter etc. no one belongs to us and similarly we are not for them)but on the contrary it enforces to practice meditation while being in family. How is it possible? Please share your views.
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Regards.
Ajmer Singh Randhawa.[/quot

GURU PIAYARIO JIOS
AJMER SINGH JI,
GURFATEH.

we are BOTh same age. IN Fact you look younger with black beard..mine is all white.
Apart from that... I have FULL FAITH IN GURU JI..and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Hence I FOLLOW GURU JI....all the way. Just CATCH hold of the little finger of Guru ji..and NEVER LET GO..no matter how "experienced" we FEEL we have become with age !! we are forever nannaeh children in Guru Jis hands...IF in our Hankaar we let go..we FALL DOWN. Guaranteed.

Here I answer briefly your UNDERLINED question....on the Women in our Life..household dutioes etc...and Naam kammaii.

1. Family..GRISHTHEE JEEVAN....far from being a liability..a dhucharr...a set back...etc ITS the BEST WAY. ALL Previous sages, brahmgianis, devtas, swamis, rishis, yogis, naaths, etc etc etc... HATED HOUSEHOLDERS WAY...they said this is the biggest BARRIER...Woman is the Biggest Maya..way to HELL..she will stop and destroy any man's naam japp/naam kamaii etc etc.. Some even said a mere look at a woman is enough to send you to HELL forever...Guru ji sad..SO kion mnadah akheyeah jit jammeh Rajaan...SHE gave YOU this opportunity to see this world..how can she send you to HELL ?? Nine months she carried you...IN HER BODY... FOR YEARS she fed you from her BODY...she send you to HELL ?? is this a JOKE ?? a REVENGE of the UNGRATEFUL MAN !! AKIRTGHANN..worst crime in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. BUT if we fail to have FULL FAITH IN Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..and GO WANDERING...in the "JUNGLE" of granths..vedas..mannus simrtees..charitars, stories of women viles, tall tales..etc etc and BELIEVE THAT RUBBISH as equal to Gurbani...tehn we are DOING EXACTLY what the SIDHS..the YOGIS..the Naaths..etc were DOING when Guru naanak Ji Confronted them and ADMONSHED them in Sidh Ghost...BTW Sidh...GHHOSHT..is TALKING...DEBATING...DISCUSSING...!!!! Guru Ji is NOT saying..LOOK here listen to ME..I am the GURU..either LISTEN to ME or SHUT UP !! END thsi here and NOW...He wasnt like US..his Sikhs...HE is GURU NANAK..the ever patient..the ever vigilant..the ever TRUTHFUL..the ever sweet, mitth bollrra ji har sajan mera..kadeh na boleh kaurra ji....although as YOUNG as a mere "boy" compared to the LONG BEARDS,..jattadharees of age reaching hundreds of years...HE is LISTENED TO...as He speaks with AUTHORITY...of TRUTH. That TRUTH is with us in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. we just have to LOOK...with DEVOTION and TRUTH in our HEARTS...
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BUT GURU NANAK JI went UP RIVER....against the Flow of EVERYONE ELSE. GURU JI said HOUSEHOLDER is COMPULSORY. ALL GURUS married and had families...some had so many DAUGHTERS too....just like some of us....such a big responsibility...all the Gurus married off their sons and daughters like all of us do...taking care of EVERYTHING..and also doing Naam kamaii of the HIGHEST ORDER. Every body said this is IMPOSSIBLE...how to do naam japp kamaii with a woman sleeping next to you ??? GURU JI said NO..thats the BEST and EASIEST WAY....stay in the POND..among the dirt and squalor..and KEEP AFLOAT like the Kanwal Flower !!!.

THE Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is FULL of this PRACTICAL ADVICE !! a Guru ka SIKh who has full FAITH and devotion can achieve what GURU JI ACHIEVED..so easily...that is not my words..its GURU JIS GUARANTEE...in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Thank you Ji..Keep in Chardeekalla.

Ajmer singh ji,
Gurfateh Ji.

Ha ha..you are quite a joker ajmer singh ji..congrats. imho..the Bigger fool is known when he opens his mouth ( or in this case types on his keyboard..and HITS..SUMBMIT...then its KNOWN worldwide !!)..he he he no offense meant..
BUT this Subject is not a laughing matter. Its serious and it needs serious study to enable the TRUTH to emerge....as it will do eventually. Lets begin the ball rolling on the chautha padd thread..i have submitted ( bigger fool or not..god knows)

Keep in Chardeekalla ji.

Gyaniji, Guru Fateh !!
Thanks for defining but at least you would have understood that a devotee like me if asking this question, must be aware of Sid-goashth and other Baanis. This has not satisfied me , when i practice Naam japp-WaheGurumantra, that can take me to meditation if continue(though i can't) but searching the answer what is 'CHAUTHA PAD' or the fourth stage and than achieve it should be the goal of we devotees.
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I belong to Dehra Dun and has seen many Saints in Samadhi (meditation). You will wonder I was present when Subhash Chandra Bose died as a Sanyasi in samadhi at Dehra Dun for which i have challenged Govt. of India to prove me wrong.I have opened a website also especially on this issue.
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I too want to achieve that stage which no one preeche so i asked you if as per gurmat you or any body else from forum may shed some light.
Regards.
Ajmer Singh Randhawa.

Aad ji, Guru Fateh !!
You are requested to start this topic as new thread (CHAUTHA PAD) and shift all the mails in that thread.
Thanks.
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Ajmer Singh randhawa.

Gurur Piayario Jio,
Ajmer singh ji.

So sorry to disappoint...I am no snayasi....and have never been in samadhee.

For me "Naam japp" is like Guru nanak ji did...PLOUGH the flelds so well that we get maximum YIELD...be the Best farmer..plant the best feed grass for the Cows..so that they give the best milk...and so on...treat the animals like humans..love them..so they give you the best effort..ploughing..milk production etc.
Naam is QUALITIES OF WAHEGURU..TRUTH..HUMILITY..LOVE.. Naam japping means IMBIBING those QUALITIES..so that we become DEVTAS..manas into deos...not Manas jaat kartoot passu ki....when we look into the MIRROR..IF we see "Waheguru"...or we see "dog..khota..hathi..pig...bandar.." then we are one of the two above...
THATS as far as my experiences go. I always try and see GURU JI...staring abck at me in the mirrot when i tie my dastaar every morning....and hope i see the same Guru Ji when i recite sohila at night.

I hope any others will be of help to your quest...

Gyaani ji, , You are really very intelligent. I think the curiosity and the thirst, the inner thirst which could not be quenched has compelled me to write in this forum but i wonder nobody else sharing his views. The method to meditate is not known to me otherwise i practice to chant thy name, the Gurmantar Waheguru and recite Gurbaani or sahaj paath always continue, one after the other. But even then i thirst of soul is there. Ik never ending Trishna... . What to do next ... a curiosity?
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Regards.
Ajmer Singh Randhawa.

Ajmer singh ji

THose who do not believe that a sikh has to take Gurmantra and call naam simran as a useless excericse may not be believing in Chautha pad also. Thye have different meanings for naam simran.