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27-Jan-2009, 00:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rajkhalsa I have spoken to UK Jathedar Bhai Niddarsingh ji ...once ..they are good people ..the neo singh sabhia mentality will not want them to survive | I don't think it's Neo-Singh Sabia but more AKJ/DDT!! Got anything to share on This Topic? Why not share your immediate thoughts/reaction with us! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views... Gurfateh!
__________________ Randip Singh Those who renounce meat, and hold their noses when sitting near it, devour men at night. They practice hypocrisy, and make a show before other people, but they do not understand anything about meditation or spiritual wisdom. Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Page 1289 Fools Who Wrangle Over Flesh | 
27-Jan-2009, 00:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh According to the same sources (PW/akj/taksal etc) he is Sanatanist....advocate of Sanatan Brahminicla practises..essentially nirmalas, udassis etc.
As things stand today on the Net too..we have to learn to "read between the lines...paragraphs ?? as well..and look "between the Frames.... at "videoed apologies"..
Not everything we "see" is the Truth...  | I think as a Sikh, I cannot deny that some aspects of Sikhism may have had some Hindu aspects eg Ghatka comes from Shastarvidya (which the monk Boddhidharma Bodhidharma. Zen or Chan meditation was founded by Boddhidharma. studied too). We Sikh's sometimes have a tendency to purge even good influences of Hinduism from our faith. I think this Nihang fellow is just acknowledging those good bits. | 
27-Jan-2009, 00:45 AM
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Originally Posted by aad0002 Randip -- Now with input from another source, respected Gyani Jarnail ji -- Yes, duress. and think about it. Is this event about pressure from a willful group of "young-bloods" who are not addressing the book but instead their subjectively held opinions. This Niddar is someone I want to befriend in a curious way. I read the comment that he loves to teach children -- Could it be that teaching was too much to give up and so he sacrificed his pride in order to continue. Of course this is only my wondering out loud. But, things look sad. Is the opposition happy with the outcome? Does it end here? Mailaagar bereh hai bhuyiangaa. Bikh Amrit basahi ik sangaa: The snakes encircle the sandalwood trees. Poison and nectar dwell there together (Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji 525). ( I borrowed this from an article posted on another thread by Gyani Jarnail ji because it may explain why Niddar apologized. Maybe Niddar knows how to be graceful even when I do not.)
Well I have more exploring to do.  | I too would like to meet him and just talk, and the quote you have used is excellent. | 
14-May-2009, 20:12 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: Hazur Sahib Tilak Question? hazuri sikhs are not supposed to be called as GURU GOBIND SINGH JI SIKHS ... Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/23860-hazur-sahib-tilak-question.html
ACCD to GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI " DAYA DHARAM KA MOOL HAI "and also panj pyareas mane Bhai DAYA SINGH JI AND THEN BHAI DHARAM SIGH JI .
while doing such cermony they need to loose daya for goat and there it ends how they could be dharmi. | 
14-May-2009, 23:14 PM
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Originally Posted by harneetkaur hazuri sikhs are not supposed to be called as GURU GOBIND SINGH JI SIKHS ... | Why? Quote:
Originally Posted by harneetkaur ACCD to GURU GRANTH SAHIB JI " DAYA DHARAM KA MOOL HAI "and also panj pyareas mane Bhai DAYA SINGH JI AND THEN BHAI DHARAM SIGH JI .
while doing such cermony they need to loose daya for goat and there it ends how they could be dharmi. | what do you mean? I don't understand anything you are saying? | 
30-Nov-2009, 13:12 PM
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| | | | | Re: Hazur Sahib Tilak Question? Maybe we should just each stop for a moment and think about what is empty ritual and a symbolic rutine.
I believe if the so called ritual is done with the realisation that this ritual wont get you closer to GOD or even earn HIS mercy, then its fine, because it will just become a symbolic meaningful act done as a rutine, to maybe remember and give more importance to such event or situation. | 
01-Dec-2009, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by therebirthofkhalsa Maybe we should just each stop for a moment and think about what is empty ritual and a symbolic rutine.
I believe if the so called ritual is done with the realisation that this ritual wont get you closer to GOD or even earn HIS mercy, then its fine, because it will just become a symbolic meaningful act done as a rutine, to maybe remember and give more importance to such event or situation. | Yes it is an empty ritual, but so it doing "Pakharma around the Guru Granth Sahib", so is cutting Karah with a Kirpan, so is putting the Guru Granth Sahib to bed.....the list is endless. The reason why people have got their Kacharay in a twist over this particular ritual is because the Vaishno influenced Sikhs don't like the fact that Sikhs carry on Jhatka. | | The following members appreciate Randip Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
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