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| | | | | Re: Scientific Vision of Guru Nanak Dev in Guru Granth Sahib Ah, but spnadmin ji, the human mind and its understanding is a gift of WaheGuru, yes? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-sikhi-sikhism/23696-scientific-vision-guru-nanak-dev-guru.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
And while it may not be "The Whole That Is Greater Than the Sum of Its Parts," it is one part, and the things we devise to increase our understanding (even if only by one drop compared to the ocean of what we do not understand) do bring us a tiny bit closer to our own perfect, pure state, and thus closer to reunion with The One Lord, yes?
All this to say, to me, it's a both/and -- it's all good.
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31-Dec-2010, 00:43 AM
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| | | | | Re: Scientific Vision of Guru Nanak Dev in Guru Granth Sahib It is not the mind that gets it. | 
31-Dec-2010, 15:59 PM
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| | | | | Re: Scientific Vision of Guru Nanak Dev in Guru Granth Sahib Scientific Vision of GURU NANAK DEV JI in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji JI Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
While going thru the essay on this subject I get an interesting point for consideration.Here at the start it is being told that GURU is telling that :\"GOD Created the Universe" and this has reference of a quote from JAPu Ji as KIT PASAAO EKO KAWAAO.
An important point here is that in Gurbaani the use of the word GOD is our own assu,ption.Nowhere Gurbaani mentions like this.This way we are introduing a word which is not a word from Gurbaani Vocabulary.As such Gurbaani is perfect in all respects.Does it requires the use of any extra word to explain ? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
This needs introspection to know what is actually the message of Gurbaani regarding CREATOR of the UNIVERSE.
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31-Dec-2010, 16:23 PM
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| | | | | Re: Scientific Vision of Guru Nanak Dev in Guru Granth Sahib Doesn't the writer have to adapt to the fact that most people reading the article would not know and therefore need a prop from the English language to get them on their way to the next step? For that matter it is  Kartar Purakh "who" is Creator. One could then say that "who" is not correct because the Creator is also Ajooni. Then one could add that Ajooni is both nirgun and sargun. By this time we have already lost sight of the main idea or thesis of the writer. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
How would a writer get through an article, or express his/her thoughts, in an article of reasonable length if each and every reference had to be shaved to a fine edge. We make allowances for differences in language. Otherwise it is impossible to communicate. | | The following member appreciates spnadmin Ji for the above message. | | 
31-Dec-2010, 19:09 PM
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| | | | | Re: Scientific Vision of Guru Nanak Dev in Guru Granth Sahib SPNADMIN Ji,
Divine Greetings,
I wish all SPNs and other members of the Forum A VERY VERY HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR . Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
I fuuly agree with your point of view that some allowances in language are required to have better communuication.But the small allownces should not change the CORE CONCEPT of Gurbaani otherwise there is lateral shift in the Focus point being reffered. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
I think you would be getting my point.
This problem is existing in INDIA as well.So we must be careful in making the allownces .
With best wishes
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31-Dec-2010, 23:24 PM
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| | | | | Re: Scientific Vision of Guru Nanak Dev in Guru Granth Sahib I like the way the article delves into how GGSJ has knowledge about cosmology and evolution.
There is obviously no doubt that our Gurus had the gift of divine knowledge or at least the access to the source of such knowledge. And Guru Granth Sahib Ji certainly contains level of knowledge that is much beyond even our times.
The only thing I find a little hard to explain is that why they couldn’t have included some advice about some really basic cures which could have greatly helped their followers. For example a medicine as basic as Penicillin, if discovered at the time of Guru Nanak Dev ji could have easily saved millions of lives by now. Humankind had to wait till Alexander Fleming discovered it in 1928. Same goes for vaccination. Think of all the children who died because of smallpox including our Guru Har Kishan. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
The only reason I can think of is that our Gurus as well as the Divine creator wanted humanity to work on its own to find the cures and appreciate the wonders of nature. Although this doesn't seem totally convincing to me. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
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31-Dec-2010, 23:52 PM
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| | | | | Re: Scientific Vision of Guru Nanak Dev in Guru Granth Sahib SKEPTIC FREETHINKER1
Wonderful views.Very well said the way we should treat the knowledge imparted to us thru Gurbaani. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
Sir Your views are greatly appreciable.Thanks
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| | | | | Re: Scientific Vision of Guru Nanak Dev in Guru Granth Sahib Scientific vision of GURU NANAK DEV Ji in SSGSIn
The messages of Gurbaani are more related to MUN of ours rather than the MIND.
MIND is hardware and the MUN is corresponding SOFTWARE .There are as many Minds as SOFTWARES.
Gurbaani has clearly stated the behviour of MUN as being a FORM OF WAVE.This wave forms our INNERSELF.Similarly there is vast and infinite OUTERSELF which is the same as innerself.
So we require to connect our innerself with the vast and infinite outerself thru the Words of GURU. This is SPRITUALTY described as union of JOTI with JOTi. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
This process can be considered as Science of the word GURU. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=23696
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