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Sardar Jokes And Hindus' Rights To Free Speech
Information on Sardar Jokes And Hindus' Rights To Free Speech under section Sikh Sikhi Sikhism, part of the Sikhism; there is an SMS, which was being sent here in India. It says: -
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02-03-2005, 10:05 PM
|  | SPN Sewadaar | | | Enrolled: Jan 2005 Location: India Age: 36
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | | there is an SMS, which was being sent here in India. It says: - Sardar ek vichitra prani hai. yeh punjab ke junglon mein paya jata hai. gurpurav ke din yeh bhari sankhya mein dekhne ko milte hain. langar hi in ka paushtik aahaar hai. jab yeh janam lete hain ati sundar lagte hain, lekin umar badne ke sath sath yeh ek bhayankar roop dharan kar lete hain aur 12 baje ke kareeb in ke nikat nahi jana chahiye, yeh hanikarak sidh ho sakte hain. KIRPYA SAAVDHANI BARTEIN.
Then, a Sardar Ji came forward. Now this SMS is doing miracle on mobile phones: - Hindu ek neech prani hai. hindustan me in ki sankhya machhro se bhi ziyada hai. yeh kumbh mele me bahut sankhya me paaye jaatey hain. Deemaag ki kami ke kaaran in par ek sardar aur ek muslmaan raj karte hain. yeh bahut dino tak bhukhe rah sakte hain, kiyonki mandiron me khaane ko kuchh nahi milta hai. har roz 12 baje inhe sardaron se maar parti hai.
I have both the SMSs saved in my mobile phone.  . | 
02-03-2005, 10:45 PM
|  | SPN Sewadaar | | | Enrolled: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa Age: 34
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | | Hello all,
I will give more though to what you have all written later today but I thought that for the time being I would mention that there is a very effective media watch type organization in the United States that could be used to create an international or an Indian organization.
Here is a link: http://www.saldef.org
Regards to all,
Ravi Singh | 
02-03-2005, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ravisingh Hello all,
I will give more though to what you have all written later today but I thought that for the time being I would mention that there is a very effective media watch type organization in the United States that could be used to create an international or an Indian organization.
Here is a link: http://www.saldef.org
Regards to all,
Ravi Singh | SALDEF = Sikh American Legal Defense and Education Fund
SMART = Sikh Mediawatch and Resource Task Force
SALDEF is new name of SMART. In 1996, SMART began solely as an all-volunteer organization, with primary focus on media analysis and education. Later, based on the needs of the Sikh American community, SMART immediately began responding to civil rights, legislative, employment, and accommodation issues also.
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03-03-2005, 09:44 AM
|  | SPN Sewadaar | | | Enrolled: Jun 2004 Location: India Age: 63
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | | Dear Khalsa Ji,
The messaged sent at the address vir@mid-day.com are getting returned.
In the web site of Mid Day there is a place for feed back. I have pasted my e-mail in it with a request that it be passed on to this journalist.
I have sent the e-mail to Hindustan Times at the address of their Head Office. It is salil@hindustantimes.com.
This way I have forced my messages on these two papers. The messages have reached.
I agree to Aman Ji's suggestion that a media watch should be established.
With love and respect for all.
Amarpal Singh | 
04-03-2005, 10:36 AM
|  | SPN Sewadaar | | | Enrolled: Jun 2004 Location: Punjab Age: 33
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Your idea of a Media Group is indeed great. We need to exploit this idea and propose it to as many sikhs, groups etc. as possible, both in India and abroad.
Can you make a Universal Appeal regading this on the Forum.
| Yes Sure !! Please outline the conents of the appeal and we are on our way !!
Regards | 
04-03-2005, 11:23 AM
|  | SPN Sewadaar | | | Enrolled: Jun 2004 Location: India Age: 63
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | | Dear Khalsa (FireStrom) Ji,Today I have again sent my e-mail to Hindustan Time at their address marking it in the subject 'For the attention of Vir Sanghvi' the e-mail address is feedback@hindustantimes.com
With love and respect for all.
Amarpal Singh | 
04-03-2005, 12:18 PM
|  | SPN Sewadaar | | | Enrolled: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa Age: 34
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | | Fateh to all,
SMART dealt with a similar issue with this letter: http://www.sikhmediawatch.org/mediaw....asp?mediaid=1
I'm not sure what the results were.
I think in order to be timely we should start an online petition to show that there are a significant number of people that find the jokes, etc. offensive.
Free online petitions can be started here: http://www.petitiononline.com/petition.html
We could include in this petition a statement that we would like to start an interenational Sikh Media Watch type organization and circulate it widely. Perhaps we will get a few interested people with the skills and inclination to start such an organization.
Would anyone be interested in writing something up for this petition?
Regards,
Ravi Singh | 
04-03-2005, 12:38 PM
|  | SPN Sewadaar | | | Enrolled: Jun 2004 Location: Punjab Age: 33
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | | Yes Sir !! I think we already have the needed ingrediants in this thread itself (posts of Amarpal Ji and Firestorm) and the idea of signing petition online is really good one. Perhaps, we can do it on behalf of SPN as a representative body. What do you think ?
It may not produce immediate results but may result in wider awareness of the issue amongst the Sikh masses and others alike, worldwide.
I think we should go for it, as soon as possible. | 
08-03-2005, 11:25 AM
|  | SPN Sewadaar | | | Enrolled: Jun 2004 Location: UK Age: 32
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Nominated 0 Times in 0 Posts TOTW/F/M Award(s): 0 | | I got an email from the editor and he promised he would send my feedback to Veer Sanghvi.
However I havent heard from them since I sent the email.
I think that we should not go in for a petition at this point in time.
I think a step by step course of action should be as follows:
1. Rather on SPN itself a separate section titled Media watch should be made. The purpose of this section would be to report all incidents of misleading potrayal of the Sikh image.
The moderators can work with the members to sift through incidents, to have a concise list of incidents which amount to wrong potrayal of the Sikh image.
In this we will have ready database of all such character potrayals and this will pave the way for a stronger petitiononline, which can make in due course of time.
2. The next step should be to wrote to individuals and organisations and let our feelings known in a civilised manner in a meaningful manner. The emails/letters to be sent should be written and discussed in the forum before being sent.
3. on a parellel front we should be in touch with Saldef or similar organisations to leverage upon their knowledge base.
4. Political parties or affliation should be COMPLETELY AVOIDED, AS THIS WILL ONLY LEAD TO CONTROVERSIES RATHER THAN SOLUTION. Anyway if they were interested they would have done something about this long ago.
Awaiting further feedbacks. | 
08-03-2005, 02:16 PM
|  | SPN Sewadaar | | | Enrolled: Jun 2004 Location: Punjab Age: 33
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1. Rather on SPN itself a separate section titled Media watch should be made. The purpose of this section would be to report all incidents of misleading potrayal of the sikh image.
| We already have a section called " Sikh Spectrum" which contains some case similar cases... Should we change this sections name to Sikh Media Watch ? Just a suggestion. Quote:
The moderators can work with the members to sift through incidents, to have a concise list of incidents which amount to wrong potrayal of the sikh image.
In this we will have ready database of all such character potrayals and this will pave the way for a stronger petitiononline, which can make in due course of time.
| Agreed. Quote: |
2. The next step should be to wrote to individuals and organisations and let our feelings known in a civilised manner in a meaningful manner. The emails/letters to be sent should be written and discussed in the forum before being sent.
| Agreed. Can we have a list/pointer of individuals/organisations that we can approach directly in this regard. Quote: |
3. on a parellel front we should be in touch with Saldef or similar organisations to leverage upon their knowledge base.
| Agreed. Quote: |
4. Political parties or affliation should be COMPLETELY AVOIDED, AS THIS WILL ONLY LEAD TO CONTROVERSIES RATHER THAN SOLUTION. Anyway if they were interested they would have done something about this long ago.
| Absolutely, no politicts involved with SPN. 100% Agreed. | |
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