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Old 26-04-2008, 11:53 AM
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I smell hijacking of a religion that perceived for general people just contrary to Hinduism which was filled with these kind of ideologies. Simple minded masses fail to understand the mysterious pyramid of words armed with confusing principles.
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Guruji is understandable to the simple, but He isn't simple-minded,

Never ever I even dared to think contrary to that, who am I ? a simple minded trying to understand Revealed Gurbani !!
Look at what you're saying. I'm telling you Gur-deekhya is a Living transmission not a dead ritual and explaining what I can, then you say simple people fail to understand these mysteries. This is why I said Guru is understandable to the simple but He is not simple minded and this is why Gurbani has layers upon layers of meaning. Gurbani isn't contrary to Hinduism. Gurbani corrected errors of Hinduism and also the errors of Islam. Guruji clarified the most perfect way to God incorporating understandable spiritual concepts derived from all religions including what was written in kateba. In this respect, Guruji can be acknowledged as a spiritual Master of every spirituality.
ਤੇਰੀ ਸਰਣਿ ਤੇਰੈ ਭਰਵਾਸੈ ਪੰਚ ਦੁਸਟ ਲੈ ਸਾਧਹਿ ॥੩॥
thaeree saran thaerai bharavaasai panch dhusatt lai saadhhehi ||3||
In Your Sanctuary, with Your Support, they subdue the five villains. ||3||

ਗਿਆਨੁ ਧਿਆਨੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਰਮੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ਸਾਰ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ਤੇਰੀ ॥
giaan dhhiaan kishh karam n jaanaa saar n jaanaa thaeree ||
I know nothing about wisdom, meditation and good deeds; I know nothing about Your excellence.

ਸਭ ਤੇ ਵਡਾ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਕਲ ਰਾਖੀ ਮੇਰੀ ॥੪॥੧੦॥੫੭॥
sabh thae vaddaa sathigur naanak jin kal raakhee maeree ||4||10||57||
Guru Nanak is the greatest of all; He saved my honor in this Dark Age of Kali Yuga. ||4||10||57||
~SGGS Ji p. 750
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Well said, Bhain ji , why have you made this an issue? Truly I don’t need any thing to know about Vedas because Gurbani itself is my refuge.
I brought in quote about the Vedas because it explained how there are many layers of meaning and complexity within them, even including the tonality, sound and vibration of the root words. In like manner Gurbani, while not concerned ritualistically with sound and intonation still has layers of deeply embedded complex meaning and shabd.

For a moment let's look at what this means:

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਵੇਦੰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਰਹਿਆ ਸਮਾਈ ॥
guramukh naadhan guramukh vaedhan guramukh rehiaa samaaee ||
The Guru's Word is the Sound-current of the Naad; the Guru's Word is the Wisdom of the Vedas; the Guru's Word is all-pervading.
~SGGS Ji p. 2


In this vaak Guru's word is all the wisdom of the Vedas. When you say you don't need to know anything about the Vedas you have Gurbani, I'm simply pointing out that as per Gurbani, all the wisdom of the Vedas is contained within it. And so all the complexity and profound greatness and more besides. This is why Gurbani cannot only be the simplest explanation. But for those interested, Gurbani is an ocean of wisdom. I did not say go study Vedas. Moreover, the vaak is talking about the Naad.

What is this talking about? Here is a good explanation by Harbhajan Singh Yogi
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Naad means "the essence of all sounds". All languages contain sounds which relate to one or more of the five elements of air, fire, water, earth or ether. Gurbani is a perfect combination and permutation of sounds relating to all the five elements in complete balance. When Guru Arjun Dev, the fifth Guru Nanak, compiled the Siri Guru Granth Sahib, in 1604, he put in only those Banis which were in Naad. These compositions are called Gurbani.

There are eighty-four meridian points on the upper palate of a human’s mouth. One can feel that upper palate with the tongue and experience its different surfaces. There are two rows of meridian points on the upper palate and on the gum behind the upper teeth. The tongue stimulates those meridian points, and they in turn stimulate the hypothalamus which makes the pineal gland radiate. When the pineal gland radiates, it creates an impulsation in the pituitary gland. When the pituitary gland gives impulsation, the entire glandular system secretes and a human being obtains bliss. This is the science.

Gurbani is the combination of the tongue with the meridian points. When you read and recite Gurbani, it stimulates your hypothalamus. It is totally different than any scriptures because Gurbani is made in a scientific way. There are two banis: "kachee bani" is that which does not fit on the Naad. It is not a balanced sound current. "Pakee bani" is that which fits on the Naad and is balanced. One who knows the Naad knows the Aad, the Primal Creativity. One who knows the Aad is Parmayshwaar, the Supreme God.
Victory & Virtue: The Science of Naad and Gurbani (as explained by the Siri Singh Sahib)
What you keep lumping together with Hinduism and calling dead ritualism is actually an ancient science. Can you please make the distinction between caste system, janeeo, arti, etc., and the subtle physiology of the energy body and the science of sound current that has the power to reform the negative programing of your thought patterns?

What is Hinduism? Is it neatly found in some book with a general description? Or does this include many scriptures, many practices, many schools of thought? Hinduism is basically a British word. Just because Gurbani teaches a yogic science doesn't make it ritualistic Hinduism in the perjorative sense you seem to imply. What I think you're overlooking here is the Living Reality of this science because it's not familiar to you and you don't recognize it even when you see it described in Gurbani.

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All these Guru Vaak do not support Charan Pahul, translator has problem to understand the meaning of a Punjabi idiom” pair/ charan dho ke peene”, its meaning is to regard extremely high, to get idea of charan pahul out of it, it is like a joke played on words.... Should we listen to Gurbani in this context or others to open up a shop that will guarantee financial gains for doing path of such and such Bani. It is called spiritual suicide. So that quote, if implied properly, leads us to unconditional love and respect for the Guru and his spiritual powers. Still I refuse to buy it because distortion becomes grenade to make us limbless in prospect of progressing.
Charan Pahul is implied in the definitions of Charanamrit. This is an ancient Indic practice of vibrational attunement and receptive humility which creates transmission of Living energy between the Guru and the chela. It is abundantly clear and there are even supporting historical references including vaaran of Bhai Gurdas Ji and separate historical Persian document Dabistan-i-Mazahib. It is even accepted as such by Sikh scholars in many books written about Sikh history. So the idea that you can deny the obvious is somewhat weak argument, but you're right. You don't have to accept it.
ਆਪਿ ਲਹਾਏ ਕਰੇ ਜਿਸੁ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਕਰੇ ਹਰੇ ॥
aap lehaaeae karae jis kirapaa jis no guramukh karae harae ||
By His Grace, the Lord enables the Gurmukh to find these pearls.

ਆਪੇ ਭਉਜਲੁ ਆਪਿ ਹੈ ਬੋਹਿਥਾ ਆਪੇ ਖੇਵਟੁ ਆਪਿ ਤਰੇ ॥
aapae bhoujal aap hai bohithhaa aapae khaevatt aap tharae ||
He Himself is the terrifying world-ocean, and He Himself is the boat; He Himself is the boatman, and He Himself ferries us across.
~SGGS Ji p. 552
I would invite you to look at the negativity in the words you're using: hijack, confusing, ritualism, grenade, limbless, hypocrites, financial gains, spiritual suicide, distortion, rejection, corrupted, trash, dogmatic, crippled with imaginations, rigidness, totally futile, fake, manufactured, narrow, etc.

These descriptions cannot invalidate a true psychic science. But they do reflect on the state of mind of the perceiver. Raja Yoga is called a science of the mind. It's a science about how sound and power words like mantara and bani can affect our thinking. And you're talking about fake babas who set up shop to financially exploit Sikhs with confusion. Are these the same thing? No. Are there fake babas who exploit people? Of course. But just because there are fake babas doesn't mean the Sikh can't find the science of union with God (yoga) which is described in Gurbani. Because you have negative impression of Hinduism or sant mat doesn't mean negativity is reflected in these concepts found in Gurbani. Gurbani, as you know is the cure for confusion, and it is the essence of purity. It has the power to cleanse our minds.

There's a science behind it, that's all I'm saying. That science requires an energy transmission to take place between a Guru and a disciple. For this reason I've explained the concept of Guru-chela relationship and Gur-deekhya. Because without the Guru's energy imprint, Living Power, enlightenment, shabad-Jyot, vibration... and the chela's attunement and receptivity to Guru...none of this powerful transformation of consciousness Gurbani is describing can take place. We can't give enlightenment to ourselves. We must become enlightened by a Guru. Guru initiates and sustains the unfolding process of spiritual development of His chelas.

Simply to run out and receive amrit cannot give you this attunement. Simply to practice Naam abiyaas cannot. Simply to jap Vaheguru Gurmantara cannot. Simply to take cool isnaan at amrit vela time cannot. Simply to sing kirtan of the Lord's praise cannot. Simply to keep Rehit Maryada cannot. Simply to wear panj kakkars cannot. Simply to name yourself Singh or Kaur cannot. Simply to practice Naam simran and dhyan cannot.

So what can do it? I'm not telling anyone run out and get a yoga teacher and practice yoga techniques from them. I'm not telling anyone run out and study the vedas, shastras and simritis. I'm not telling anyone to do anything other than reflect on what Gurbani is teaching in relation to purataan Gursikh practices. I'm saying by following the sadhan prescriptions of a spiritual life found in Gurbani and Gurmat practices (gupt Naam dhrir, Naam abiyaas, Rehit Maryada given to us by the Guru in Panj Piare) are all a package deal. It doesn't cost you a single penny! And you don't have to tolerate any dedhari fool (baba, sant, fake teacher). You have Living Guru! And this doesn't have to do with the kundalini yoga of 3HO. 3HO doesn't teach Naam abiyaas. I was blessed to receive Naam abiyaas from Gursikh Panj Piare during amrit sinchaar at AKJ Rainsbhae. The Naam Dhrir (implanting the Naam) and Naam abiyaas practice of sass giras simran pranayam is purataan Gursikh practice which can be distilled from Gurbani and is recorded in Prem Sumarag which earliest written version dates to 1706. Dasam Pita Ji was shaheedi in 1708. So look critically at the dates. Naam Abiyaas dates to time of Guru! All of Gurmat Gursikhi is the original kundalini yoga! And it has nothing to do with asanas, nothing to do with expensive classes, nothing to do with people who call themselves teachers of yoga. That's what I'm saying.

Everyone will practice Sikhi according to their own understanding and karam. And everyone will receive what enlightenment they are capable of receiving with Guruji's kirpa. And none of this is dead ritualism, dogmatism, rigidness, confusion or futility. It is the science of spiritual life and liberation. And to greater and lesser degrees we all try to put into practice (reality) attunement with Guru. These purataan practices have a lot of meaning and importance to spiritual development which is why different Jathas preseved them. To disregard the value of deekhya is unfortunate since it is the primary catalyst for vibrational attunement with Satguru.
ਰੋਗੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਸਰੁਦ੍ਰਾ ਰੋਗੀ ਸਗਲ ਸੰਸਾਰਾ ॥
rogee brehamaa bisan sarudhraa rogee sagal sansaaraa ||
Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are diseased; the whole world is diseased.

ਹਰਿ ਪਦੁ ਚੀਨਿ ਭਏ ਸੇ ਮੁਕਤੇ ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਵੀਚਾਰਾ ॥੪॥
har padh cheen bheae sae mukathae gur kaa sabadh veechaaraa ||4||
Those who remember the Lord's Feet and contemplate the Word of the Guru's Shabad are liberated. ||4||

ਰੋਗੀ ਸਾਤ ਸਮੁੰਦ ਸਨਦੀਆ ਖੰਡ ਪਤਾਲ ਸਿ ਰੋਗਿ ਭਰੇ ॥
rogee saath samundh sanadheeaa khandd pathaal s rog bharae ||
The seven seas are diseased, along with the rivers; the continents and the nether regions of the underworlds are full of disease.

ਹਰਿ ਕੇ ਲੋਕ ਸਿ ਸਾਚਿ ਸੁਹੇਲੇ ਸਰਬੀ ਥਾਈ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇ ॥੫॥
har kae lok s saach suhaelae sarabee thhaaee nadhar karae ||5||
The people of the Lord dwell in Truth and peace; He blesses them with His Grace everywhere. ||5||

ਰੋਗੀ ਖਟ ਦਰਸਨ ਭੇਖਧਾਰੀ ਨਾਨਾ ਹਠੀ ਅਨੇਕਾ ॥
rogee khatt dharasan bhaekhadhhaaree naanaa hathee anaekaa ||
The six Shaastras are diseased, as are the many who follow the different religious orders.

ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਰਹਿ ਕਹ ਬਪੁਰੇ ਨਹ ਬੂਝਹਿ ਇਕ ਏਕਾ ॥੬॥
baedh kathaeb karehi keh bapurae neh boojhehi eik eaekaa ||6||
What can the poor Vedas and Bibles do? People do not understand the One and Only Lord. ||6||

ਮਿਠ ਰਸੁ ਖਾਇ ਸੁ ਰੋਗਿ ਭਰੀਜੈ ਕੰਦ ਮੂਲਿ ਸੁਖੁ ਨਾਹੀ ॥
mith ras khaae s rog bhareejai kandh mool sukh naahee ||
Eating sweet treats, the mortal is filled with disease; he finds no peace at all.

ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿ ਚਲਹਿ ਅਨ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਅੰਤ ਕਾਲਿ ਪਛੁਤਾਹੀ ॥੭॥
naam visaar chalehi an maarag anth kaal pashhuthaahee ||7||
Forgetting the Naam, the Name of the Lord, they walk on other paths, and at the very last moment, they regret and repent. ||7||

ਤੀਰਥਿ ਭਰਮੈ ਰੋਗੁ ਨ ਛੂਟਸਿ ਪੜਿਆ ਬਾਦੁ ਬਿਬਾਦੁ ਭਇਆ ॥
theerathh bharamai rog n shhoottas parriaa baadh bibaadh bhaeiaa ||
Wandering around at sacred shrines of pilgrimage, the mortal is not cured of his disease. Reading scripture, he gets involved in useless arguments.

ਦੁਬਿਧਾ ਰੋਗੁ ਸੁ ਅਧਿਕ ਵਡੇਰਾ ਮਾਇਆ ਕਾ ਮੁਹਤਾਜੁ ਭਇਆ ॥੮॥
dhubidhhaa rog s adhhik vaddaeraa maaeiaa kaa muhathaaj bhaeiaa ||8||
The disease of duality is so very deadly; it causes dependence on Maya. ||8||

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਾਚਾ ਸਬਦਿ ਸਲਾਹੈ ਮਨਿ ਸਾਚਾ ਤਿਸੁ ਰੋਗੁ ਗਇਆ ॥
guramukh saachaa sabadh salaahai man saachaa this rog gaeiaa ||
One who becomes Gurmukh and praises the True Shabad with the True Lord in his mind is cured of his disease.
~SGGS Ji p. 1153
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I have to strongly disagree with your Yoga thing, Guru ji reduces it to of no use.
It's not my yoga thing. I've highlighted certain pauris in Gurbani where Guru is declared a Master of Raja Yoga for the kalyug. And I've explained how the Sikh discipline of sadhana such as amrit vela, Naam jap, kirtan, etc are all part of Guruji's yoga (practice to unite the seeker with God). This is the essence of Sikhism. It has nothing to do with preconceptions you may have about yoga in general.

Gurbani says reading all the vedas, simritis and yoga practices are of no avail. Does Gurbani say that clinging to Guru is of no avail? No. There are something like 16 major schools of yoga. Guruji tells us not to follow them. Because He is the Master. We follow His hukam. We follow His Gurbani. We follow His sadhan presecription for spiritual practice. And this is how we obtain liberation. You don't understand that to follow Guruji is to follow His yoga. Gurbani says even Brahma and Shiva have to follow Guruji because only Guruji is merged in the nirgun and sargun reality of God. So no other yoga can take you higher in the kalug than Guru's method, which is transmission of enlightenment through means of the shabad-Jyot in the Naam.
ਰਾਜਨ ਜੋਗੁ ਕਰਿ ਹਾਂ ॥
raajan jog kar haan ||
Practice Raja Yoga, the Yoga of meditation and success.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਲੋਗ ਅਲੋਗੀ ਰੀ ਸਖੀ ॥੨॥੧॥੧੫੭॥
kahu naanak log alogee ree sakhee ||2||1||157||
Says Nanak, this is the way to dwell with the people, and yet remain apart from them. ||2||1||157||

ਆਸਾਵਰੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
aasaavaree mehalaa 5 ||
Aasaavaree, Fifth Mehl:

ਮਨਸਾ ਏਕ ਮਾਨਿ ਹਾਂ ॥
manasaa eaek maan haan ||
Cherish one desire only:

ਗੁਰ ਸਿਉ ਨੇਤ ਧਿਆਨਿ ਹਾਂ ॥
gur sio naeth dhhiaan haan ||
meditate continually on the Guru.

ਦ੍ਰਿੜੁ ਸੰਤ ਮੰਤ ਗਿਆਨਿ ਹਾਂ ॥
dhrirr santh manth giaan haan ||
Install the wisdom of the Saints' Mantra.

ਸੇਵਾ ਗੁਰ ਚਰਾਨਿ ਹਾਂ ॥
saevaa gur charaan haan ||
Serve the Feet of the Guru,

ਤਉ ਮਿਲੀਐ ਗੁਰ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਨਿ ਮੇਰੇ ਮਨਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
tho mileeai gur kirapaan maerae manaa ||1|| rehaao ||
and you shall meet Him, by Guru's Grace, O my mind. ||1||Pause||
~SGGS Ji p. 409
ਏਹੁ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਹੋਵੈ ਜੋਗੀ ਜਿ ਕੁਟੰਬੁ ਛੋਡਿ ਪਰਭਵਣੁ ਕਰਹਿ ॥
eaehu jog n hovai jogee j kuttanb shhodd parabhavan karehi ||
This is not Yoga, O Yogi, to abandon your family and wander around.

ਗ੍ਰਿਹ ਸਰੀਰ ਮਹਿ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਅਪਣਾ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਲਹਹਿ ॥੮॥
grih sareer mehi har har naam gur parasaadhee apanaa har prabh lehehi ||8||
The Name of the Lord, Har, Har, is within the household of the body. By Guru's Grace, you shall find your Lord God. ||8||

ਇਹੁ ਜਗਤੁ ਮਿਟੀ ਕਾ ਪੁਤਲਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਇਸੁ ਮਹਿ ਰੋਗੁ ਵਡਾ ਤ੍ਰਿਸਨਾ ਮਾਇਆ ॥
eihu jagath mittee kaa puthalaa jogee eis mehi rog vaddaa thrisanaa maaeiaa ||
This world is a puppet of clay, Yogi; the terrible disease, the desire for Maya is in it.

ਅਨੇਕ ਜਤਨ ਭੇਖ ਕਰੇ ਜੋਗੀ ਰੋਗੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥੯॥
anaek jathan bhaekh karae jogee rog n jaae gavaaeiaa ||9||
Making all sorts of efforts, and wearing religious robes, Yogi, this disease cannot be cured. ||9||

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਉਖਧੁ ਹੈ ਜੋਗੀ ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਮੰਨਿ ਵਸਾਏ ॥
har kaa naam aoukhadhh hai jogee jis no mann vasaaeae ||
The Name of the Lord is the medicine, Yogi; the Lord enshrines it in the mind.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਸੋਈ ਬੂਝੈ ਜੋਗ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਸੋ ਪਾਏ ॥੧੦॥
guramukh hovai soee boojhai jog jugath so paaeae ||10||
One who becomes Gurmukh understands this; he alone finds the Way of Yoga. ||10||

ਜੋਗੈ ਕਾ ਮਾਰਗੁ ਬਿਖਮੁ ਹੈ ਜੋਗੀ ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰੇ ਸੋ ਪਾਏ ॥
jogai kaa maarag bikham hai jogee jis no nadhar karae so paaeae ||
The Path of Yoga is very difficult, Yogi; he alone finds it, whom God blesses with His Grace.

ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਏਕੋ ਵੇਖੈ ਵਿਚਹੁ ਭਰਮੁ ਚੁਕਾਏ ॥੧੧॥
anthar baahar eaeko vaekhai vichahu bharam chukaaeae ||11||
Inside and outside, he sees the One Lord; he eliminates doubt from within himself. ||11||

ਵਿਣੁ ਵਜਾਈ ਕਿੰਗੁਰੀ ਵਾਜੈ ਜੋਗੀ ਸਾ ਕਿੰਗੁਰੀ ਵਜਾਇ ॥
vin vajaaee kinguree vaajai jogee saa kinguree vajaae ||
So play the harp which vibrates without being played, Yogi.

ਕਹੈ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਹੋਵਹਿ ਜੋਗੀ ਸਾਚੇ ਰਹਹਿ ਸਮਾਇ ॥੧੨॥੧॥੧੦॥
kehai naanak mukath hovehi jogee saachae rehehi samaae ||12||1||10||
Says Nanak, thus you shall be liberated, Yogi, and remain merged in the True Lord. ||12||1||10||
~SGGS Ji p. 909
ਜੋਗੀ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਗਵਾਈ ਹੰਢੈ ਪਾਖੰਡਿ ਜੋਗੁ ਨ ਪਾਈ ॥੧੦॥
jogee jugath gavaaee handtai paakhandd jog n paaee ||10||
Yogi, you have lost the Way; you wander around confused. Through hypocrisy, Yoga is not attained. ||10||

ਸਿਵ ਨਗਰੀ ਮਹਿ ਆਸਣਿ ਬੈਸੈ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੀ ਜੋਗੁ ਪਾਈ ॥੧੧॥
siv nagaree mehi aasan baisai gur sabadhee jog paaee ||11||
Sitting in Yogic postures in the City of God, through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, you shall find Yoga. ||11||

ਧਾਤੁਰ ਬਾਜੀ ਸਬਦਿ ਨਿਵਾਰੇ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਸੈ ਮਨਿ ਆਈ ॥੧੨॥
dhhaathur baajee sabadh nivaarae naam vasai man aaee ||12||
Restrain your restless wanderings through the Shabad, and the Naam will come to dwell in your mind. ||12||

ਏਹੁ ਸਰੀਰੁ ਸਰਵਰੁ ਹੈ ਸੰਤਹੁ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਈ ॥੧੩॥
eaehu sareer saravar hai santhahu eisanaan karae liv laaee ||13||
This body is a pool, O Saints; bathe in it, and enshrine love for the Lord. ||13||

ਨਾਮਿ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰਹਿ ਸੇ ਜਨ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਸਬਦੇ ਮੈਲੁ ਗਵਾਈ ॥੧੪॥
naam eisanaan karehi sae jan niramal sabadhae mail gavaaee ||14||
Those who cleanse themselves through the Naam, are the most immaculate people; through the Shabad, they wash off their filth. ||14||

ਤ੍ਰੈ ਗੁਣ ਅਚੇਤ ਨਾਮੁ ਚੇਤਹਿ ਨਾਹੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਬਿਨਸਿ ਜਾਈ ॥੧੫॥
thrai gun achaeth naam chaethehi naahee bin naavai binas jaaee ||15||
Trapped by the three qualities, the unconscious person does not think of the Naam; without the Name, he wastes away. ||15||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸਨੁ ਮਹੇਸੁ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਗੁਣਿ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਈ ॥੧੬॥
brehamaa bisan mehaes thrai moorath thrigun bharam bhulaaee ||16||
The three forms of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are trapped in the three qualities, lost in confusion. ||16||

ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਤ੍ਰਿਕੁਟੀ ਛੂਟੈ ਚਉਥੈ ਪਦਿ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਈ ॥੧੭॥
gur parasaadhee thrikuttee shhoottai chouthhai padh liv laaee ||17||
By Guru's Grace, this triad is eradicated, and one is lovingly absorbed in the fourth state. ||17||

ਪੰਡਿਤ ਪੜਹਿ ਪੜਿ ਵਾਦੁ ਵਖਾਣਹਿ ਤਿੰਨਾ ਬੂਝ ਨ ਪਾਈ ॥੧੮॥
panddith parrehi parr vaadh vakhaanehi thinnaa boojh n paaee ||18||
The Pandits, the religious scholars, read, study and discuss the arguments; they do not understand. ||18||

ਬਿਖਿਆ ਮਾਤੇ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਏ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਕਹਹਿ ਕਿਸੁ ਭਾਈ ॥੧੯॥
bikhiaa maathae bharam bhulaaeae oupadhaes kehehi kis bhaaee ||19||
Engrossed in corruption, they wander in confusion; who can they possibly instruct, O Siblings of Destiny? ||19||

ਭਗਤ ਜਨਾ ਕੀ ਊਤਮ ਬਾਣੀ ਜੁਗਿ ਜੁਗਿ ਰਹੀ ਸਮਾਈ ॥੨੦॥
bhagath janaa kee ootham baanee jug jug rehee samaaee ||20||
The Bani, the Word of the humble devotee is the most sublime and exalted; it prevails throughout the ages. ||20||
~SGGS Ji p. 909
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Let’s quote Guru Nanak ji in this context because now Yoga theory you are referring from no where. Here is a complete rejection of this practice, only Naam Simran, good deeds are given importance.
Naam simran is a form of yoga veer ji. Yoga means a practice which leads to merging with the Divine. Gurbani doesn't say don't practice. It gives very clear practices. Gurbani is saying Guru is the path, not any other. And Guru's path is perfection of all other yoga.


ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਨ ਕਉ ਭੋਗ ਜੋਗ ॥
har kaa naam jan ko bhog jog ||
The Name of the Lord is the enjoyment and Yoga of His servants.

ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਤ ਕਛੁ ਨਾਹਿ ਬਿਓਗੁ ॥
har naam japath kashh naahi bioug ||
Chanting the Lord's Name, there is no separation from Him.
~SGGS Ji p. 265


ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਮਨੈ ਮਹਿ ਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਾ ਖਿੰਥਾ ਖਿਮਾ ਹਢਾਵਉ ॥
gur kaa sabadh manai mehi mundhraa khinthhaa khimaa hadtaavo ||
Let the Word of the Guru's Shabad be the ear-rings in your mind, and wear the patched coat of tolerance.

ਜੋ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਰੈ ਭਲਾ ਕਰਿ ਮਾਨਉ ਸਹਜ ਜੋਗ ਨਿਧਿ ਪਾਵਉ ॥੧॥
jo kishh karai bhalaa kar maano sehaj jog nidhh paavo ||1||
Whatever the Lord does, look upon that as good; thus you shall obtain the treasure of Sehj Yoga. ||1||
~SGGS Ji p. 359
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What is Sehaj Yoga?

"Yoga" means union, and therefore, means of merger with Divinity. Guru Nanak's way is called - Naam Yoga or Sehaj Yoga. The word Sehaj means the natural or gradual process. Just as vegetables cooked over a slow fire retain their flavour, so in the same way, the sehaj discipline of mind and body, will bring out the essential goodness of a human being. Sehaj Yoga differs radically from Hath Yoga.

Sehaj Yoga is peculiar to Sikhism. It is the best form of three traditional Yogas - Karam Yoga, Giaan Yoga, and Bhagti Yoga. Here the three types merge to form an ideal one. Actions which are noble and righteous, along with meditation on "The Name" and the elimination of the ego, pave the way to God realization. In Guru Granth Sahib Ji it is called the Fourth stage, "Chautha Pad", which means that it is beyond the three Gunas of Rajas (activity), Tamas (darkness), and Satav (peace), and the three states - Awakening, Dream and Dreamless sleep. It is a state of equipoise, called "Turiya".

The maladies of the soul must be cured in this life, otherwise they are carried over to the next life. What is Sehaj Yoga? | Sikhism101.com | UniversalFaith.net
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I don’t think you are aware of the fact that Guru ji is also critic of yugas as good or bad and made clear only that time is SATYUG when HE is remembered. He rejected all trash to bring seeker close to GOD.

ਕਲਿਜੁਗੁ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਆ ਪਗ ਤ੍ਰੈ ਖਿਸਕੀਆ ਪਗੁ ਚਉਥਾ ਟਿਕੈ ਟਿਕਾਇ ਜੀਉ ॥
kalijug har keeaa pag thrai khisakeeaa pag chouthhaa ttikai ttikaae jeeo ||
The Lord ushered in the Dark Age, the Iron Age of Kali Yuga; three legs of religion were lost, and only the fourth leg remained intact.

ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਮਾਇਆ ਅਉਖਧੁ ਹਰਿ ਪਾਇਆ ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਹਰਿ ਸਾਂਤਿ ਪਾਇ ਜੀਉ ॥
gur sabadh kamaaeiaa aoukhadhh har paaeiaa har keerath har saanth paae jeeo ||
Acting in accordance with the Word of the Guru's Shabad, the medicine of the Lord's Name is obtained. Singing the Kirtan of the Lord's Praises, divine peace is obtained.

ਹਰਿ ਕੀਰਤਿ ਰੁਤਿ ਆਈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਡਾਈ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਖੇਤੁ ਜਮਾਇਆ ॥
har keerath ruth aaee har naam vaddaaee har har naam khaeth jamaaeiaa ||
The season of singing the Lord's Praise has arrived; the Lord's Name is glorified, and the Name of the Lord, Har, Har, grows in the field of the body.

ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਬੀਜੁ ਬੀਜੇ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਸਭੁ ਲਾਹਾ ਮੂਲੁ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥
kalijug beej beejae bin naavai sabh laahaa mool gavaaeiaa ||
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, if one plants any other seed than the Name, all profit and capital is lost.
~SGGS Ji p. 446

ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਮਨੂਆ ਅਸਥਿਰੁ ਰਾਖਹੁ ਇਨ ਬਿਧਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪੀਓਈਐ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
guramath manooaa asathhir raakhahu ein bidhh anmrith peeoueeai ||1|| rehaao ||
Through the Guru's Teachings, hold your mind steady and stable, and in this way, drink in the Ambrosial Nectar. ||1||Pause||

ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਬਾਣਿ ਬਜਰ ਕਲ ਛੇਦੀ ਪ੍ਰਗਟਿਆ ਪਦੁ ਪਰਗਾਸਾ ॥
gur kai baan bajar kal shhaedhee pragattiaa padh paragaasaa ||
The Guru's arrow has pierced the hard core of this Dark Age of Kali Yuga, and the state of enlightenment has dawned.
~SGGS Ji p. 332
ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਦੂਖ ਬਿਨਾਸਨੁ ਪਤਿਤ ਪਾਵਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥
har har karathaa dhookh binaasan pathith paavan har naam jeeo ||1||
The Creator Lord, Har, Har, is the Destroyer of distress; the Name of the Lord is the Purifier of sinners. ||1||

ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਕਲਿਜੁਗਿ ਊਤਮੁ ਹਰਿ ਜਪੀਐ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਭਾਇ ਜੀਉ ॥
har naam padhaarathh kalijug ootham har japeeai sathigur bhaae jeeo ||
The wealth of the Lord's Name is the most exalted in this Dark Age of Kali Yuga; chant the Lord's Name according to the Way of the True Guru.
~SGGS Ji p. 444
If Guruji is a critic of yugs, why does Gurbani explain that Guru is the only path which can lead to mukti in the present yug? Obviously yugs would have to be a reality for this to be true. Gurbani doesn't say the Satyug is where HE is remembered. Veerji thats a Christian concept coming from bhagkti literature of Christians, that where He (Jesus) is, heaven is also. But Gurbani talks about distinct yugs and the efficacy of spiritual practice for this current age of kalyug. When a person obtains liberation and the dasm duar is opened and he receives darshan of Vaheguru, that person merges into Timeless Lord, and so is beyond all ages, even Satyug.
ਰਾਜ ਲੀਲਾ ਤੇਰੈ ਨਾਮਿ ਬਨਾਈ ॥
raaj leelaa thaerai naam banaaee ||
The pleasures of royalty are derived from Your Name.

ਜੋਗੁ ਬਨਿਆ ਤੇਰਾ ਕੀਰਤਨੁ ਗਾਈ ॥੧॥
jog baniaa thaeraa keerathan gaaee ||1||
I attain Yoga, singing the Kirtan of Your Praises. ||1||

ਸਰਬ ਸੁਖਾ ਬਨੇ ਤੇਰੈ ਓਲ੍ਹ੍ਹੈ ॥
sarab sukhaa banae thaerai oulhai ||
All comforts are obtained in Your Shelter.

ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕੇ ਪਰਦੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਖੋਲ੍ਹ੍ਹੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
bhram kae paradhae sathigur kholhae ||1|| rehaao ||
The True Guru has removed the veil of doubt. ||1||Pause||

ਹੁਕਮੁ ਬੂਝਿ ਰੰਗ ਰਸ ਮਾਣੇ ॥
hukam boojh rang ras maanae ||
Understanding the Command of the Lord's Will, I revel in pleasure and joy.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸੇਵਾ ਮਹਾ ਨਿਰਬਾਣੇ ॥੨॥
sathigur saevaa mehaa nirabaanae ||3||
Serving the True Guru, I obtain the supreme state of Nirvaanaa. ||2||

ਜਿਨਿ ਤੂੰ ਜਾਤਾ ਸੋ ਗਿਰਸਤ ਉਦਾਸੀ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ ॥
jin thoon jaathaa so girasath oudhaasee paravaan ||
One who recognizes You is recognized as a householder, and as a renunciate.

ਨਾਮਿ ਰਤਾ ਸੋਈ ਨਿਰਬਾਣੁ ॥੩॥
naam rathaa soee nirabaan ||2||
Imbued with the Naam, the Name of the Lord, he dwells in Nirvaanaa. ||3||

ਜਾ ਕਉ ਮਿਲਿਓ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਧਾਨਾ ॥
jaa ko miliou naam nidhhaanaa ||
One who has obtained the treasure of the Naam

ਭਨਤਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਤਾ ਕਾ ਪੂਰ ਖਜਾਨਾ ॥੪॥੬॥੫੭॥
bhanath naanak thaa kaa poor khajaanaa ||4||6||57||
- prays Nanak, his treasure-house is filled to overflowing. ||4||6||57||
~SGGS Ji p. 385
The whole point about why this relates to a discussion thread about conversion and adopting Sikh names or Sikh identity, is to explain initiation into a Guru disciple relationship with Satguru is the only way to convert your previous modes of identifying with duality and transform the mind itself. Because changing name and identity is part of Gurmat teachings and has to do with energy transmission of Gur-shabad, simply adopting the outer convention of Sikh sounding name or kakkars will not provide this energetic vibrational attunement which is the real Sikh conversion. Rather than discouraging anyone, I wanted to share the remarkable wealth which is Gurmat Gursikhi and includes emphasis on Khande Ki Pahul. Why wouldn't someone take amrit deekhya? And usually it's because they don't want to commit to the practices and lifestyle changes which will actuualy work to transform them. Transformation of consciousness is the very goal and purpose of Sikhism. Without faithfulness to Guruji's practices, their is no conversion or change in the life at all. And it's not like a magic wand. Just because someone has started down this path of becoming a committed Gursikh doesn't mean he isn't still in duality delusion, ego and the panj dhoots, or as ignorant as the worst of people. What it means is, this individual has taken a step to cling to Guru as the life raft in an ocean of suffering. It is the beginning of the transformative process of Naam sehaj yoga or the yoga of the sound current or however you want to describe what Gurbani says is Guruji's Raja Yoga. Any person seeking conversion to Sikh religion should consider the formal relationship with Living Satguru is the real conversion, and not just what you say you believe in.

~Bhul chak maaf karni ji
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Kundalini Yoga and Pranayam are related.
Yes, some sikhs in US do practice this as well [courtesy: Bhajan yogi] .

But awakening of kundalini,through breath control, is not professed by sikhism.We are ordinary people; we are advised to do Naam abhiyaas rest is all academics.
What I liked in the post is that you have stated that Naam and practice of the same is of importance. The practices may or may not be related, we do not know. Sikhs even do not know the 'sushmana'. They even need not know.It is all academics.

Sikhs should follow the edicts in words and spirit without bothering about Kundalini awakening. It is all academics.
Academic: "not of practical relevance; of only theoretical interest: the debate has been largely academic."


Veerji, are you suggesting the science of self-realization and enlightenment which is found in Gurbani is "not of practical relevance," and therefore merely an academic exercise? That can't be possible.

When you read about kundalini awakening in Gurbani, as described by opening dasm duar, how does this automatically relate to Yogi Bhajan? I will not deny he was a teacher of Kundalini yoga and had interesting things to say. But Kundalini awakening is not the property of Yogi Bhajan or 3HO.

You say, "Kundalini Yoga and Pranayam are related." This is not correct. I'm not a member of 3HO, nor do I practice Yogi Bhajan's kundalini yoga. Yet, I received Naam Gurmantara and became Naam abiyaasi when I was amrit chakk. Sass giras simran is a form of pranayam. It is in Gurbani. Let me show you:
57. Page422 Line 19 Raag Aasaa: Guru Amar Das

ਤੇਤੀਸ ਕਰੋੜੀ ਦਾਸ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਰੇ ਰਿਧਿ ਸਿਧਿ ਪ੍ਰਾਣ ਅਧਾਰੀ ॥
thaethees karorree dhaas thumhaarae ridhh sidhh praan adhhaaree ||
Three hundred thirty million gods are Your servants. You bestow wealth, and the supernatural powers of the Siddhas; You are the Support of the breath of life.

ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੋ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਦੇਵੈ ਮੇਰੈ ਪ੍ਰਾਨਿ ਵਸਾਏ ਰਾਮ ॥
har naamo har naam dhaevai maerai praan vasaaeae raam ||
The Lord's Name - He has given me the Lord's Name, and enshrined it within my breath of life.
~SGGS Ji p. 51
ਹਮਰੇ ਜਗਜੀਵਨ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ॥
hamarae jagajeevan har praan ||
The Lord, the Life of the World, is my Breath of Life.

ਹਰਿ ਊਤਮੁ ਰਿਦ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਭਾਇਓ ਗੁਰਿ ਮੰਤੁ ਦੀਓ ਹਰਿ ਕਾਨ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
har ootham ridh anthar bhaaeiou gur manth dheeou har kaan ||1|| rehaao ||
The Lofty and Exalted Lord became pleasing to my heart and my inner being, when the Guru breathed the Mantra of the Lord into my ears. ||1||Pause||
~SGGS Ji p. 1335
ਜਿਨਾ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਨ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮਾਂ ਮਨਿ ਮੰਤੁ ॥
jinaa saas giraas n visarai har naamaan man manth ||
Those who do not forget the Lord with each breath and morsel of food whose minds are filled with the Mantra of the Lord's Name.
~SGGS Ji p. 319

ਆਪੇ ਸਬਦੁ ਸਚੁ ਸਾਖੀ ਆਪੇ ਜਿਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਜੋਤੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਮਿਲਾਈ ॥
aapae sabadh sach saakhee aapae jinh jothee joth milaaee ||
He Himself is the Shabad, and He Himself is the True Teachings; He merges our light into the Light.

ਦੇਹੀ ਕਾਚੀ ਪਉਣੁ ਵਜਾਏ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪਾਈ ॥੩॥
dhaehee kaachee poun vajaaeae guramukh anmrith paaee ||3||
The breath vibrates through this frail body; the Gurmukh obtains the ambrosial nectar. ||3||
~SGGS Ji p. 1260
ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਬਚਨ ਬਚਨ ਹੈ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪਾਧਰੁ ਮੁਕਤਿ ਜਨਾਵੈਗੋ ॥੫॥
sathigur bachan bachan hai sathigur paadhhar mukath janaavaigo ||5||
The True Guru is the Word, and the Word is the True Guru, who teaches the Path of Liberation. ||5||

ਨਿਵਲੀ ਕਰਮ ਭੁਅੰਗਮ ਭਾਠੀ ਰੇਚਕ ਪੂਰਕ ਕੁੰਭ ਕਰੈ ॥
nivalee karam bhuangam bhaathee raechak poorak kunbh karai ||
You may perform exercises of inner purification, and fire up the furnace of the Kundalini, inhaling and exhaling and holding the breath.

ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਿਛੁ ਸੋਝੀ ਨਾਹੀ ਭਰਮੇ ਭੂਲਾ ਬੂਡਿ ਮਰੈ ॥
bin sathigur kishh sojhee naahee bharamae bhoolaa boodd marai ||
Without the True Guru, you will not understand; deluded by doubt, you shall drown and die.

ਅੰਧਾ ਭਰਿਆ ਭਰਿ ਭਰਿ ਧੋਵੈ ਅੰਤਰ ਕੀ ਮਲੁ ਕਦੇ ਨ ਲਹੈ ॥
andhhaa bhariaa bhar bhar dhhovai anthar kee mal kadhae n lehai ||
The spiritually blind are filled with filth and pollution; they may wash, but the filth within shall never depart.

ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਫੋਕਟ ਸਭਿ ਕਰਮਾ ਜਿਉ ਬਾਜੀਗਰੁ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲੈ ॥੧॥
naam binaa fokatt sabh karamaa jio baajeegar bharam bhulai ||1||
Without the Naam, the Name of the Lord, all their actions are useless, like the magician who deceives through illusions. ||1||

ਖਟੁ ਕਰਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਸੋਈ ॥
khatt karam naam niranjan soee ||
The merits of the six religious rituals are obtained through the Immaculate Naam.
~SGGS Ji p. 1343
ਸਾਸਨਿ ਸਾਸਿ ਸਾਸਿ ਬਲੁ ਪਾਈ ਹੈ ਨਿਹਸਾਸਨਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈਗੋ ॥
saasan saas saas bal paaee hai nihasaasan naam dhhiaavaigo ||
By His Training, I find strength with each and every breath; now that I am trained and tamed, I meditate on the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦੀ ਹਉਮੈ ਬੂਝੈ ਤੌ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਨਾਮਿ ਸਮਾਵੈਗੋ ॥੬॥
gur parasaadhee houmai boojhai tha guramath naam samaavaigo ||6||
By Guru's Grace, egotism is extinguished, and then, through the Guru's Teachings, I merge in the Naam. ||6||
~SGGS Ji p. 1309
ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਹੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਰਗਾਸਾ ॥
naam japahu guramukh paragaasaa ||
Chant the Naam, as Gurmukh, and be exalted.

ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਮੈ ਧਰ ਨਹੀ ਕਾਈ ਨਾਮੁ ਰਵਿਆ ਸਭ ਸਾਸ ਗਿਰਾਸਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
naam binaa mai dhhar nehee kaaee naam raviaa sabh saas giraasaa ||1|| rehaao ||
Without the Naam, I have no other support; the Naam is woven into all my breaths and morsels of food. ||1||Pause||
~SGGS Ji p. 367
ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਨਾਥ ਅਨਾਥ ਦਾਤੇ ਦੀਨ ਗੋਬਿਦ ਸਰਨ ॥
praan naathh anaathh dhaathae dheen gobidh saran ||
He is the Master of the praanaa, the breath of life; He is the Giver of Support to the unsupported. I am meek and poor - I seek the Sanctuary of the Lord of the Universe.

ਆਸ ਪੂਰਨ ਦੁਖ ਬਿਨਾਸਨ ਗਹੀ ਓਟ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਰਿ ਚਰਨ ॥੨॥੧॥੪੦॥
aas pooran dhukh binaasan gehee outt naanak har charan ||2||1||40||
He is the Fulfiller of hope, the Destroyer of pain. Nanak grasps the Support of the Feet of the Lord. ||2||1||40||
~SGGS Ji p. 1306
ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਜਪਹੁ ਜਪੁ ਰਸਨਾ ਨੀਤ ਨੀਤ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਈਐ ॥੨॥
saas giraas japahu jap rasanaa neeth neeth gun gaaeeai ||2||
With every breath and morsel of food, meditate, and chant with your tongue, continually, each and every day; sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord. ||2||

ਭਗਤਿ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਪਰਮ ਪਦੁ ਪਾਇਆ ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਦੁਖ ਨਾਠੇ ॥
bhagath praem param padh paaeiaa saadhhasang dhukh naathae ||
Through loving devotional worship, the supreme status is obtained, and in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, sorrows are dispelled.
~SGGS Ji p. 382
ਸਚਿ ਸਚੁ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਇਕ ਚਿਤਹਿ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਵੈ ॥
sach sach jaaneeai eik chithehi liv laavai ||
In truth, the True Lord is recognized and realized, when one is lovingly attuned to Him, with one-pointed consciousness.

ਕਾਮ ਕ੍ਰੋਧ ਵਸਿ ਕਰੈ ਪਵਣੁ ਉਡੰਤ ਨ ਧਾਵੈ ॥
kaam krodhh vas karai pavan ouddanth n dhhaavai ||
Lust and anger are brought under control, when the breath does not fly around, wandering restlessly.
~SGGS Ji p. 1395
ਬਟੂਆ ਏਕੁ ਬਹਤਰਿ ਆਧਾਰੀ ਏਕੋ ਜਿਸਹਿ ਦੁਆਰਾ ॥
battooaa eaek behathar aadhhaaree eaeko jisehi dhuaaraa ||
The body is a bag with seventy-two chambers, and one opening, the Tenth Gate.

ਨਵੈ ਖੰਡ ਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮੀ ਮਾਗੈ ਸੋ ਜੋਗੀ ਜਗਿ ਸਾਰਾ ॥੧॥
navai khandd kee prithhamee maagai so jogee jag saaraa ||1||
He alone is a real Yogi on this earth, who asks for the primal world of the nine regions. ||1||

ਐਸਾ ਜੋਗੀ ਨਉ ਨਿਧਿ ਪਾਵੈ ॥
aisaa jogee no nidhh paavai ||
Such a Yogi obtains the nine treasures.

ਤਲ ਕਾ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਲੇ ਗਗਨਿ ਚਰਾਵੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
thal kaa breham lae gagan charaavai ||1|| rehaao ||
He lifts his soul up from below, to the skies of the Tenth Gate. ||1||Pause||

ਖਿੰਥਾ ਗਿਆਨ ਧਿਆਨ ਕਰਿ ਸੂਈ ਸਬਦੁ ਤਾਗਾ ਮਥਿ ਘਾਲੈ ॥
khinthhaa giaan dhhiaan kar sooee sabadh thaagaa mathh ghaalai ||
He makes spiritual wisdom his patched coat, and meditation his needle. He twists the thread of the Word of the Shabad.

ਪੰਚ ਤਤੁ ਕੀ ਕਰਿ ਮਿਰਗਾਣੀ ਗੁਰ ਕੈ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਚਾਲੈ ॥੨॥
panch thath kee kar miragaanee gur kai maarag chaalai ||2||
Making the five elements his deer skin to sit on, he walks on the Guru's Path. ||2||

ਦਇਆ ਫਾਹੁਰੀ ਕਾਇਆ ਕਰਿ ਧੂਈ ਦ੍ਰਿਸਟਿ ਕੀ ਅਗਨਿ ਜਲਾਵੈ ॥
dhaeiaa faahuree kaaeiaa kar dhhooee dhrisatt kee agan jalaavai ||
He makes compassion his shovel, his body the firewood, and he kindles the fire of divine vision.

ਤਿਸ ਕਾ ਭਾਉ ਲਏ ਰਿਦ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਚਹੁ ਜੁਗ ਤਾੜੀ ਲਾਵੈ ॥੩॥
this kaa bhaao leae ridh anthar chahu jug thaarree laavai ||3||
He places love within his heart, and he remains in deep meditation throughout the four ages. ||3||

ਸਭ ਜੋਗਤਣ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮੁ ਹੈ ਜਿਸ ਕਾ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨਾ ॥
sabh jogathan raam naam hai jis kaa pindd paraanaa ||
All Yoga is in the Name of the Lord; the body and the breath of life belong to Him.
~SGGS Ji p. 477
ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ਪ੍ਰਭੂ ਸੁਖਦਾਤੇ ॥
har praan prabhoo sukhadhaathae ||
The Lord God is my praanaa, my breath of life; He is the Giver of peace.

ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ਕਾਹੂ ਜਾਤੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
gur prasaadh kaahoo jaathae ||1|| rehaao ||
By Guru's Grace, only a few know Him. ||1||Pause||
~SGGS Ji p. 529
ਤ੍ਰੈ ਸਤੁ ਅੰਗੁਲ ਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਪਵਣੁ ਮਿਲਾਇਆ ।
trai satu angul|ai manu pavanu milaaiaa|
The breath going ten fingers out the mind is associated with the vital air the practice is completed.

ਸੋਹੰ ਸਹਜਿ ਸੁਭਾਇ ਅਲਖ ਲਖਾਇਆ ।
sohan sahaji subhaai alakh|akhaaiaa|
The imperceptible soham (I am He) is realised in equipoise.

ਨਿਝਰਿ ਧਾਰਿ ਚੁਆਇ ਅਪਿਉ ਪੀਆਇਆ ।
nijhari dhaari chuaai apiu peeaaiaa|
In this state of equipoise, the rare drink of ever-wing cascade is quaffed.

ਅਨਹਦ ਧੁਨਿ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਇ ਨਾਦ ਵਜਾਇਆ ।
anahad dhuni|iv|aai naad vajaaiaa|
Getting absorbed in the unstruck melody a mysterious sound is heard.

ਅਜਪਾ ਜਾਪੁ ਜਪਾਇ ਸੁੰਨ ਸਮਾਇਆ ।
ajapaa jaapu japaai sunn samaaiaa|
Through silent prayer, one merges in the Suny (Lord)
~Vaar 22 Pauri 7 of Vaaran Bhai Gurdas Ji
ਰਾਗ ਨਾਦ ਸੰਬਾਦ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਚੇਤਾਇਆ ।
raag naad sanbaad giaanu chaytaaiaa|
Music, melody, dialogue and knowledge make man a conscious being.

ਨਉ ਦਰਵਾਜੇ ਸਾਧਿ ਸਾਧੁ ਸਦਾਇਆ ।
nau daravaajay saadhi saadhu sadaaiaa|
By disciplining the nine gates of the body one is called a sadhu.

ਵੀਹ ਇਕੀਹ ਉਲਘਿ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਆਇਆ ।
veeh ikeeh ulaghi nij ghari aaiaa|
Transcending the worldy illusions he stabilizes within his self.

ਪੂਰਕ ਕੁੰਭਕ ਰੇਚਕ ਤ੍ਰਾਟਕ ਧਾਇਆ ।
poorak kunbhak raychak traatak dhaaiaa|
Prior to this, he was running after various practices of hath yoga,

ਨਿਉਲੀ ਕਰਮ ਭੁਯੰਗੁ ਆਸਣ ਲਾਇਆ ।
niulee karam bhuyangu aasan|aaiaa|
such as the rechak, purak, kumbhak, tratak, nyolrand bhujarig asan.

ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗੁਲਾ ਝਾਗ ਸੁਖਮਨਿ ਛਾਇਆ ।
irhaa pingulaa jhaag sukhamani chhaaiaa|
He practised different processes of breathing like ire', pirigala and susumna.

ਖੇਚਰ ਭੂਚਰ ਚਾਚਰ ਸਾਧਿ ਸਧਾਇਆ ।
khaychar bhoochar chaachar saadhi sadhaaiaa|
He perfected their khechari and chachari postures.

ਸਾਧ ਅਗੋਚਰ ਖੇਲੁ ਉਨਮਨਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੬॥
saadh agochar khaylu unamani aaiaa ॥6॥
Through such mysterious sport he establishes himself in the equipoise.
~Vaar 22 Pauri 6 of Vaaran Bhai Gurdas Ji
ਚਰਣ ਕਮਲ ਮਕਰੰਦੁ ਰਸਿ ਹੋਇ ਭਵਰੁ ਲੈ ਵਾਸੁ ਲੁਭਾਵੈ ।
charan kamal makarandu rasi hoi bhavaru|ai vaasu|ubhaavai|
Like the black bee they surrender at the lotus feet of Guru and enjoy the sap and remain happy.

ਇੜਾ ਪਿੰਗੁਲਾ ਸੁਖਮਨਾ ਲਘਿ ਤ੍ਰਿਬੇਣੀ ਨਿਜ ਘਰਿ ਆਵੈ ।
irhaa pingulaa sukhamanaa|aghi tribaynee nij ghari aavai|
They go beyond the triveni of ira, pingala and susumna and stablize in their own self.

ਸਾਹਿ ਸਾਹਿ ਮਨੁ ਪਵਣ ਲਿਵ ਸੋਹੰ ਹੰਸਾ ਜਪੈ ਜਪਾਵੈ ।
saahi saahi manu pavan|iv sohan hansaa japai japaavai|
They through the flame of breath, mind and the life force, recite and make others recite the soham and hans recitations (jap).

ਅਚਰਜ ਰੂਪ ਅਨੂਪ ਲਿਵ ਗੰਧ ਸੁਗੰਧਿ ਅਵੇਸੁ ਮਚਾਵੈ ।
acharaj roop anoop|iv gandh sugandhi avaysu machaavai|
The form of surati is wonderfully fragrant and enrapturing.

ਸੁਖਸਾਗਰ ਚਰਣਾਰਬਿੰਦ ਸੁਖ ਸੰਪਟ ਵਿਚਿ ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਵੈ ।
sukhasaagar charanaarabind sukh sanpat vichi sahaji samaavai|
The gurmukhs calmly absorb in the pleasure-ocean of the Guru feet.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸੁਖ ਫਲ ਪਿਰਮ ਰਸੁ ਦੇਹ ਬਿਦੇਹ ਪਰਮ ਪਦੁ ਪਾਵੈ ।
guramukhi sukh dhal piram rasu dayh bidayh param padu paavai|
When they in the form of pleasure-fruit obtain the supreme joy, they go beyond the bondages of body and bodylessness and attain the highest station.

ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਮਿਲਿ ਅਲਖੁ ਲਖਾਵੈ ॥੧੧॥
saadh sangati mili alakhu|akhaavai ॥11॥
Such gurmukhs have the glimpse of that invisible Lord in the holy congregation.
~Vaar 6 Pauri 11 of 20 of Vaaran Bhai Gurdas JI
~Bhul chak maaf karni ji
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ਉਲਟਤ ਪਵਨ ਚਕ੍ਰ ਖਟੁ ਭੇਦੇ ਸੁਰਤਿ ਸੁੰਨ ਅਨਰਾਗੀ ॥
I turned my breath inwards, and pierced through the six chakras of the body, and my awareness was centered on the Primal Void of the Absolute Lord.
Devotee Kabir - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

ਊਂਧ ਕਵਲੁ ਜਿਸੁ ਹੋਇ ਪ੍ਰਗਾਸਾ ਤਿਨਿ ਸਰਬ ਨਿਰੰਜਨੁ ਡੀਠਾ ਜੀਉ ॥੨॥
Those, whose inverted lotus of the crown chakra is illuminated, see the Immaculate Lord everywhere. ||2||
Guru Arjan Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok



Harjas Kaur Khalsa Ji,

I have a question for you. Is the above vaak about six chakras the same as the one 3HO is professing today ? If no, how have they deviated ?
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Namjap ji,

Though the question is not directed to me yet I think to offer a small clarification. Kundalini jagran through breath control was widely practiced by yogis and sidhas. Many sikh- preachers still tell these things in the context ot Sidh Ghosthi. There are many recordings available on the net.

Kudalini awakening leads to release of energy. By following the method of breath control, called Pranayaam also, it takes lot of time as one has to start from the lowest most chakra called as mool chakra. It is from this that one graduates to the highest level to crown chakra.

Sikhism has not approved of it; instead it is recommended the Naam practice and it is stated in bani that one can have the kundalini awakening by 'naam' and by eulogizing the Creator through keertans etc. in the sangat.

This kind of raj yog was recommended by Swami Vivekanand as well but sikhs do not practice it as a part of religion.One may do it for the purpose of mantaining good health etc.
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