Are Sikhs inclined to bigamy?

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all!

The true Gurus often sing the joy of becoming Suhaagan, married with God.
Does the true Sikh seek this relation while married with the worldly spouse?

Has someone any experience to share?


Balbir Singh

Balbir ji

You quoted SGGS above as follows

ਕੀਓ ਸੀਗਾਰੁ ਮਿਲਣ ਕੈ ਤਾਈ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਲੀਓ ਸੁਹਾਗਨਿ ਥੂਕ ਮੁਖਿ ਪਈਆ ॥੭॥
कीओ सीगारु मिलण कै ताई प्रभु लीओ सुहागनि थूक मुखि पईआ ॥७॥
kee-o seegaaru milan kai taa-ee parabhu lee-o suhaagan thook mukhi pa-ee-aa. ||7|| SGGS 836-10
Did makeup for the meeting Prabhu accepted Suhaagan receiving Saliva through the mouth.

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I have not found this wording in in any of the commonly used translations. This line also does not appear on Ang 836. In addition, the word "saliva" appears only 1 time in Dasam Granth, and not in Sri Guru Granth Sahib. Please in your response do not make any wise cracks or sarcastic rejoinders.

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gux gwvw idnu rwiq nwnk cwau eyhu || gun gaavaa dhin raath naanak chaao eaehu ||To sing Your Glorious Praises day and night - O Nanak, this is my heart-felt desire.

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aad0002

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all and Aad0002 Jee!

Perhaps moderating does not fit your nature.

True Sikhi is lost because of wrong moderators in the past three hundred years.
I do not know which other religion is lost so quickly as the true message of the reverend Gurus for all.

Your role is poor and not worth as it blocks true Satsangs.


Balbir Singh

Balbir ji

We will then continue to have differing views.

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gux gwvw idnu rwiq nwnk cwau eyhu || gun gaavaa dhin raath naanak chaao eaehu ||To sing Your Glorious Praises day and night - O Nanak, this is my heart-felt desire.

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all and Aad0002 Jee!

Quote "I have not found this wording in in any of the commonly used translations."
Some people know only translations.
The true Guru's experience is direct.

Quote "This line also does not appear on Ang 836."
Please provide the Ang number where this Vaak appears.

Quote "In addition, the word "saliva" appears only 1 time in Dasam Granth, and not in Sri Guru Granth Sahib."

The words ਥੁਕ (Thuk) or ਥੁਕਾ (Thukaa) occurs many times and the word ਥੂਕ (Thook) occurs two times in Sri Guru Granth Saahib Jee.

Thuk and Thook are different. Thuk is that one spits out from the mouth. Thuk is sputum, expectorated matter.
A Naam less person spends life spitting around non sense and receives the same back.

Thook is mucus that protects. It generates protective secretion within and is important for healthy existing.
Thook is true Naam that one realizes in mouth first when God accepts one as Suhaagan.

This is their problem if translators and their followers have not understood Gurdev's Vaak.

Strange, some punjabi translators have ignored the word Thook explaining this Vaak from Gurdev completely.

Has someone gone through the Suhaagan's experience receiving Saliva into your mouth?

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Quote "We will then continue to have differing views."
I pray all come to know true Naam Simran. This is the same experience of Truth.


Balbir Singh

ਕੋਈ ਜਾਇ ਮਿਲੈ ਤਿਨ ਨਿੰਦਕਾ ਮੁਹ ਫਿਕੇ ਥੁਕ ਥੁਕ ਮੁਹਿ ਪਾਹੀ ॥
कोई जाइ मिलै तिन निंदका मुह फिके थुक थुक मुहि पाही ॥
Ko*ī jā*ė milai ṯin ninḏkā muh fikė thuk thuk muhi pāhī.
If someone goes to meet with those dull-faced slanderers, he will find their faces covered with spit.
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok


ਓਇ ਮੰਗਦੇ ਫਿਰਹਿ ਸਭ ਜਗਤ ਮਹਿ ਕੋਈ ਮੁਹਿ ਥੁਕ ਨ ਤਿਨ ਕਉ ਪਾਹਿ ॥
ओइ मंगदे फिरहि सभ जगत महि कोई मुहि थुक न तिन कउ पाहि ॥
O*ė mangḏė fireh sabẖ jagaṯ meh ko*ī muhi thuk na ṯin ka*o pāhi.
They wander around begging all over the world, but no one even spits in their faces.
Guru Ram Das - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok


ਭਲਕੇ ਥੁਕ ਪਵੈ ਨਿਤ ਦਾੜੀ ॥
भलके थुक पवै नित दाड़ी ॥
Bẖalkė thuk pavai niṯ ḏāṛī.
The man's beard is spat upon daily.
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

ਨਾਨਕ ਏਵੈ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਤਿਤੁ ਮੁਖਿ ਥੁਕਾ ਪਾਹਿ ॥੧॥
नानक एवै जाणीऐ तितु मुखि थुका पाहि ॥१॥
Nānak ėvai jāṇī*ai ṯiṯ mukẖ thukā pāhi. ||1||
O Nanak, know this: such a mouth is to be spat upon. ||1||
Guru Nanak Dev - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

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Dear Balbir Singh ji

Sat Sri Akal!

I understood your point and what I meant was that the illusion of being seperate goes away on becoming Suhagan



I think I am still deviod of such an experience but what I know is that this also is the will of god

I was using MAY BE because I dont have the xperience of being Suhagan so what I wrote was more of speculation or menatl excercise and not my personal experience


Thanks for your posts


Jatinder Singh

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PrIdw kwl^ØI ijnI n rwivAw DaulI rwvY koie ]

Bablir ji and other moderators,

I hope no one minds if continue with a non-response other than to thank NamJap for providing translations and Ang for each one.

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gux gwvw idnu rwiq nwnk cwau eyhu || gun gaavaa dhin raath naanak chaao eaehu ||To sing Your Glorious Praises day and night - O Nanak, this is my heart-felt desire.

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!
Dear all and Namjap Jee!

Where are the Guru's Vaaks singing about ਥੂਕ (Thook)?


Balbir Singh

ਨਾਮ ਬਿਨਾ ਰਸ ਕਸ ਦੁਖੁ ਖਾਵੈ ਮੁਖੁ ਫੀਕਾ ਥੁਕ ਥੂਕ ਮੁਖਿ ਪਾਈ ॥੩॥
नाम बिना रस कस दुखु खावै मुखु फीका थुक थूक मुखि पाई ॥३॥
Nām binā ras kas ḏukẖ kẖāvai mukẖ fīkā thuk thūk mukẖ pā*ī. ||3||
Without the Naam, the Name of the Lord, one obtains only suffering for his delicacies to eat. His mouth is insipid, and his face is spat upon, again and again. ||3||
ਮਃ 4 - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

ਕੀਓ ਸੀਗਾਰੁ ਮਿਲਣ ਕੈ ਤਾਈ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਲੀਓ ਸੁਹਾਗਨਿ ਥੂਕ ਮੁਖਿ ਪਈਆ ॥੭॥
कीओ सीगारु मिलण कै ताई प्रभु लीओ सुहागनि थूक मुखि पईआ ॥७॥
Kī*o sīgār milaṇ kai ṯā*ī parabẖ lī*o suhāgan thūk mukẖ pa*ī*ā. ||7||
She may adorn herself to meet her Husband Lord, but still, only the virtuous soul-bride meets God, and the other's face is spat upon. ||7||
ਮਃ 4 - view Shabad/Paurhi/Salok

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