Contradictions of Opinion

Archived_Member1 · #41 (**permalink**) 26-03-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by carolineislands

While searching one of the links on this page for literature about Sikh history I found a link to a study by Harjot Oberoi called "The Construction of Religious Boundaries." The reference read like the thesis of the study was that present day mainstream Sikh theology (for lack of better word) was brought about as a sort of British conspiracy to fragment India and that it ended up creating a sort of doctrine that was never intended by the founders of Sikhism. It was pretty weird -- it seems to present the conflicts in the 80s as some sort of Sikh "terrorism."

Is this book part of the propaganda of the group that was brought up earlier?

And what about this accusation of Sikh "terrorism?" I watched a video a week or so ago of a news report in Canada that called the Khalistan groups a "terrorist organization."

It was awful!

here's a review of the book:
Critical Reading of Harjot Oberoi's: The Construction of Religious Boundaries

"Harjot Oberoi’s The Construction of Religious Boundaries: Culture, Identity and Diversity in the Sikh Tradition3 is replete with lies, deception and manipulation of historical information"

doesn't sound terribly well regarded to me.

as far as Sikh Millitancy in the 80's and 90's, that is a whole separate topic, filled with arguments from all sides.

if you want to know the truth about Sikh militancy, read "Fighting for Faith and Nation". it provides an unbiased perspective, a collection of interviews with militants forced to live abroad, as well as presenting samples from news media and books about the GOI's side of the story, and balanced out with quotes from SGGS and information on the history of Sikhism. i sincerely believe that after reading this book, even if they do not agree with the ideology of a separate Sikh nation, anyone will understand the necessity of the struggle in Punjab.

namjap · #42 (**permalink**) 26-03-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aad0002

NanJap ji, Jasleen ji,

In this instance simple logic will work against your understanding what is going on. I often wonder myself.

This thread is one example of the simple logic ?
http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-s...urdwaaraa.html (What is Gurdwaaraa?)

aad0002 · #43 (**permalink**) 26-03-2008, 09:10 PM

Nam Jap ji

Same answer -- I was not referring to the thread.

Archived_Member1 · #44 (**permalink**) 26-03-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aad0002

Nam Jap ji

Same answer -- I was not referring to the thread.

i'm sorry for being so presumptuous, but i'm very stupid and do not understand all of your hidden/double meanings.

can you explain in simple language what you wish to convey so that i may more clearly understand?

i'm sorry if this is too much to ask.

Harjas Kaur Khalsa · #45 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 12:50 AM

I too did not get the mysterious part about logic.

Jasleen Kaur ji you jinxed me! After reading, " i'm very stupid and do not understand all of your hidden/double meanings." I went to the linked thread, read every post and didn't get any of it either ;(

I agree with Naamjap ji that certain groups do spread disinformation on the internet about Sikh religion who act in collaboration with Indian government.

Harjas Kaur Khalsa · #46 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 12:58 AM

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While searching one of the links on this page for literature about Sikh history I found a link to a study by Harjot Oberoi called "The Construction of Religious Boundaries." The reference read like the thesis of the study was that present day mainstream Sikh theology (for lack of better word) was brought about as a sort of British conspiracy to fragment India and that it ended up creating a sort of doctrine that was never intended by the founders of Sikhism. It was pretty weird -- it seems to present the conflicts in the 80s as some sort of Sikh "terrorism."

Is this book part of the propaganda of the group that was brought up earlier?

And what about this accusation of Sikh "terrorism?" I watched a video a week or so ago of a news report in Canada that called the Khalistan groups a "terrorist organization."

It was awful!

Do you think one day Carolineislands ji will ask us a simple question?

Archived_Member1 · #47 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Harjas Kaur Khalsa

Do you think one day Carolineislands ji will ask us a simple question?

simple questions are boring.

the more one questions, the more one learns. we're all students, even by answering questions, we learn more ourselves!

Archived_Member1 · #48 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 01:06 AM

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I watched a video a week or so ago of a news report in Canada that called the Khalistan groups a "terrorist organization."

i totally missed the CANADA part...

carolineislands ji... please keep in mind that the Canadian media has a long history of insulting and degrading Sikh immigrants to Canada. for all that the country supposedly espouses "multiculturalism", i have heard more "fit in or go home" comments from their media and in comments on media sites than from any other country. they've consistently linked Sikhs with terrorism, despite the fact that they have no proof, and this has obviously influenced the minds of many canadians against Sikhs.

one Canadian radio commentator who is on the Olympic Committee made a comment calling the turban a "diaper", and not only was he not chastised by the government owned radio station, he was also allowed to stay on the committee! what kind of message does that send?

namjap · #49 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 01:14 AM

Harjas Ji,

The personal experience you talked about during the Amrit Ceremony ? There's another person saying something similar in the latest post of this thread :Why I Chose Sikhism" - here's the link :- )

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-y...html#post75578 (Why I chose Sikhism?)

Harjas Kaur Khalsa · #50 (**permalink**) 27-03-2008, 03:49 AM

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The personal experience you talked about during the Amrit Ceremony ? There's another person saying something similar in the latest post of this thread

I know Jagjeet Kaur ji and Jagdish Singh ji. Bhai Jagdish Singh did a lot of Panj Piara seva with Bhai Jeevan Singh. The Bhai Manmohan Singh ji mentioned in her article was also one of the Panj Piaras at my amrit sinchaar. I am sorry to say he has died this year.