One God

Hi,

I have been looking into for quite some time, but cannot explain it, i was wondering if someone can help me understand this.

According to the Guru Granth Sahib, There is only one God for all:

"There is only the One, the Giver of all souls. May I never forget Him"
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Ang 2

As well as:

"The Muslim God Allah and the Hindu God Paarbrahm are one and the same"
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Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Ang 897

It is incredibly beautiful and even my heart tells me the same thing, but how?

Eastern Philosophy i can merge into one as, in essence, they all teach the same thing in different ways, getting to the same final destination; Nirvana
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But how can i reconcile the Abrahmic faiths, Namely Islam, When it teachings are contrary to Sikhi. I.e No reincarnation, No Karma, and no nirvanna as well so many other things?

Any help would be appreciated,

Lotus Lion

 
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Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥
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There is One God, attained by grace of SATGURU.

Now the question is, who is SATGURU or TRUEGURU ?

The one and only Satguru in this world is Guru Granth Sahib jeeo.

No one else can equal that !

Now how can anyone else provide Nirvana ?

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

Dear Lotus Lion,

Sat Dri Akal,

The question you have raised is a very good one and has confused many a people. Often people look for answers to such deep spiritual questions by looking at the surface and throuch scholarly deductions and interpretations. Many fail other than to give a mediocre explanation. One without true faith and belief cannot come to the right understanding or interpretation because such one will be bereft of Divine Guidance.

The differences are only on the surface and only appear as differences because of difference in time period and cultural context which shape beliefs and interpretations. Religions are like a puzzle, each giving a piece of infromation about Gog and His Creation but non giving a complete version. There are Seven Heavens above the Earth and Seven Nether Worlds below. This is the belief in Sikhism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, etc. Each is filled with millions of beings, creatures, etc. Does any religion give a complete list of all that exists in these worlds? Does any give an explanations as to how wach works and why there are different levels? The answer is no.

Some of the discrepencies are due to misinterpretation. There is evidence in The Abrahamic religions do indicate that some of the Eastern beliefs are consistent with their own beliefs. Predestination, Re-birth, etc. I cannot go into a full discussion right now but if you arre interested then maybe I can share something of what I have learnt over the years. Just reply and we can continue this next time. If anyone wants to have further discussions on this or any other related matters yoou can also e-mail me at : harjindersb@gmail.com.

May Gods Blessings and Guidance be upon You.

Rgds

Khojat

[quote=singhbj;73324]Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

There is One God, attained by grace of SATGURU.

Now the question is, who is SATGURU or TRUEGURU ?

The one and only Satguru in this world is Guru Granth Sahib jeeo.

No one else can equal that !

Now how can anyone else provide Nirvana ?

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

[/quote

Sat Sree Akaal Singh bj ji

You started right but left it incomplete as I feel. People preaching Nirvana or other theories, can ask us why no other one is equal to our Guru. We have to explain that. First lets talk of its being Guru and guide, here it is. who guides/ leads us to The Creator?It was done by Satguru Nanak and his sroops, now Satguru Granth Sahib ji is doing, as a fact enlightening many to see HIM in all. Regarding greatness of Guru
ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਸਚ ਸੰਜਮਿ ਸੂਚਾ ॥ ਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਪਉੜੀ ਊਚੋ ਊਚਾ ॥ ਕਰਮਿ ਮਿਲੈ ਜਮ ਕਾ ਭਉ ਮੂਚਾ ॥੩॥ ਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਮਿਲਿ ਅੰਕਿ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥ ਕਰਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਘਰੁ ਮਹਲੁ ਦਿਖਾਇਆ ॥ ਨਾਨਕ ਹਉਮੈ ਮਾਰਿ ਮਿਲਾਇਆ ॥੪॥੯॥ {ਪੰਨਾ 153} Gaori Mehla 1
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Why do we believe in and succeed having in faith in Guru, the answer lies in the above Guru waak; it means When true Guru is met we get enveloped with truth and contentment, on Guru - shown path, we grow high in spirituality. With God's grace we become fearless of death because we take it as His will and to meet Him instead of fearing of it because it turns into a chance for us, as per Guru teachings ,to be with Him. This way with Guru word we merge in Him. Its Guru blessing that we see Him within ourselves after practicing what Guru asks for. Satguru says Guru helps to remove the big wall between the Creator and us.)
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Why no one is equal to our Guru, because Guru has done what others failed to do.
Here is an answer
mY mnu qnu Koij KojyidAw
so pRBu lDw loiV ] ivstu gurU mY pwieAw ijin hir pRBu idqw joiV ]
.Gauri ki vaar slok Mehla 4
That is why Guru is great, my search for God is complete because of Guru, he became a right mediator and helped me to realize Him. I was never advised to false promises, rituals etc by Satguru. Religion is basically for the soul to have contentment and devoid of anger, lust, greed and ego. GURU DID IT, DOES IT, WILL DO IT.

bhul chuk maf karna

Har bisrat sda khuari-Mehla 5
pk70

Khojat Ji,

I see you are new in SPN. Welcome to SPN.

Sikhism doesn't make claims that There are Seven Heavens above the Earth and Seven Nether Worlds below. Guru Ji taught that there are millions of heavens, hells, solar systems, galaxies, skies and earths but Muslims believe that there are only seven layers of sky up and down totaling fourteen.

Further reading : Misconceptions - Gurmat and Islam - SikhiWiki, free Sikh encyclopedia.

naamjapji
well said. Satguru Nanak repeatedly made it clear that it is impossible to explain The Supreme Being and His infinite existence(nature); if some say, as per Satguru, they will repent on their sayings( guesses) whatever is said shall be incorrect( Japji Sahib) Every day we see how scientists are estimating and changing positions in in this context. Whatever references are given in Guru Granth Sahib, must not be interpretted incorrectly. Satguru just doesnt guess or depend on it(guessing about His infinity) if done by any. There is nothing contradictory in GGS Ji either. Whatever Satguru Nanak said is well protected and advocated by his other sroops.

Har Bisrat sda khuari -Mehla 5

pk70

Thanks for the responses so far, but I do not feel that they go towards answering the question at hand i am afraid.

If the two cannot be merged together, then this, in my mind at least, implies that the teaching of the Guru Granth are far from correct, when infact they are. I simply do not have the understanding yet.

If we have to accept on blind faith, as i see it, then this is not good either as no understanding is really ever really gained so one can never be at peace and does not progress.
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As an illustration, When i go to the Gurdwara, i touch the ground before i go in and then touch my Pug and heart. This is an externalisation of the love and respect i have for the Gurdwara, Sangat and Guru Granth Sahib.

On the other hand, a Hindu going into a Mandir would ring a bell.

Who is better? in my mind neither as we are both showing respect in different ways so we are both the same.

"That humble being, who, as Gurmukh, serves the Lord, obtains all peace and pleasure ... He looks alike upon enemy and friend, and wishes well to all" Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Ang 1100

If no effort was made to delve into teachings, then i would incorrectly feel that i am better then the Hindu ringing the bell.

That is just one example, but i think everyone can see where i am coming from with the original question.

Lotus

Here is one reconciliation of all faiths with regards to Naam/Name:-


In the Muslim scriptures, It is variously described as Kalam-i-Ilahi (The Voice of God), Nida-i-Asmani (the Sound from Heaven), Ism-i-Azam (the Great Name), Saut-i-Sarmadi (the Intoxicating Sound), Saut-i-Nasira (the Sound Melodious), Kalam-i-Majid (the Great Commandment) and Kalam-i-Haq (the Voice of Truth) which can be heard inside, and It was taught as Sultan-ul-Azkar or the King of prayers. We have innumerable references to this Sound in the teachings of the Mohammedan fakirs:

Rise above thy mental horizon, O brave soul,

And listen to the call of Music coming from above.

MAULANA RUMI

Drive away all skepticism from thy mind,
And listen to the strains of heavenly music,
And receive within thee the messages of God,
For these come only by holy communion with the self.
The Prophet declared that he heard the Voice of God,
And it fell on his ears as clearly as any other sound,
But God has sealed thy ears,
And so ye listen not to His Voice.
MAULANA RUMI


The whole world is reverberating with Sound,
To listen to It thou must unseal thine inner ears,
Then shalt thou hear an Unending Music,
And that shall lead thee beyond the confines of death.
SHAH NIAZ

An unceasing Sound is floating down from the heaven,
I wonder how ye are engaged in pursuits of no avail.
HAFIZ


Lao Tze speaks of It:

The Tao that can be expressed is not the eternal Tao;

The name that can be defined is not the unchanging Name.

By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand;

and seeing ye shall see and shall not perceive.

Matthew 13:14

And thine ears shall hear a Word behind thee saying, this is the Way,
Walk ye in It, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
Isaiah 30:21


Kabir says:

Close down thine eyes, ears and mouth,

And hear ye the unending melody of the Shabd.

More Later.