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Old 05-02-2008, 07:07 PM
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<<Not at all armies all over world don't allow it US army don't allow any religious symbols>>

important word is ANY

so i think there is no specific discrimination with Sikhs

i have seen many commercial pilots outside india(UK, europe, canada, US) who have beards, though they might not be Sikhs.
Amar ji

The main point is safety not armies I think Sikhs should sacrifice some of their safety in some fields for wearing turban or sporting beards then why can't they do it while driving
2 wheelers




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Old 05-02-2008, 07:12 PM
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<<Amar ji

The main point is safety not armies I think Sikhs should sacrifice some of their safety in some fields for wearing turban or sporting beards then why can't they do it while driving
2 wheelers>>

legally, turbans are considered safe, if properly worn

not PATKAS

we come back to the discussion with you mixing, right to wear turban, keeping hair etc etc, which i have duly clarified as having nothing to do with right to drive 2 wheelers

but it all boils down to the stigma and dogma attached to "no topi"

why else would Sikh women take out processions in chandigarh against helmets for women..?

funny coz a large majortiy were college going girls

is there a hidden agenda behind "no topi" rehetnama?




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<<well then amritdhari women will even stop driving 2 wheelers>>

may i ask why?

just because someone is feeding them a dogma of "no topi" ??


i am questioning the dogma of "no topi" and not the right to drive witha proper dastaar.

why don't they wear a dastaar while driving?

jasleen ji menitioned her views too

and i am not questioning just Sikh women, i am even asking that irrespective of religion, people should follow certain rules.

as you mentioned in your posts earlier, times have changed, when these rehetnamas were made, there were no bikes.

these dogmas should change with changing time.
orthodox Sikhs will never agree with it.When even muslims are getting shariat laws of 7th century I don't think anyboduy has right to point out at others.

so don't bring this issue it will only put fire on separatist movements




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<<Amar ji

The main point is safety not armies I think Sikhs should sacrifice some of their safety in some fields for wearing turban or sporting beards then why can't they do it while driving
2 wheelers>>

turbans are considered safe, if properly worn

not PATKAS
I don't think so if yes then why others don't get the option of wearing turban or helmet even turban is pride of indiaan people




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<<I don't think so if yes then why others don't get the option of wearing turban or helmet even turban is pride of indiaan people>>

i have seen haryanvi jaats in delhi driving bikes with pagris.( large ones)

they were not booked.

mind you, delhi is quite strict in helmet rule.


and yeah, for once lets recognize that india DOES consider diversity issues.




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<<I don't think so if yes then why others don't get the option of wearing turban or helmet even turban is pride of indiaan people>>

i have seen haryanvi jaats in delhi driving bikes with pagris.( large ones)

they were not booked.

mind you, delhi is quite strict in helmet rule.


and yeah, for once lets recognize that india DOES consider diversity issues.
I don't think police want to take panga with haryaanvi jaats as there plenty of them in police too




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<<I don't think police want to take panga with haryaanvi jaats as there plenty of them in police too>>

LOL

why do you always bringing in segways into discussion?

i got suckered in on this one

the question is-

is patka = pagg as defined for indian road laws??

it is not!!!

so patka wearers must wear helmet


why don't they want to wear helmet?




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We should design helmets for turban or patka wearers. Especially, patka wearers because they get 0 protection from it.
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Old 05-02-2008, 07:25 PM
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sinister ji proposed a design

as a budding entrepreneur bhagat singh ji

i have seen you looking for avenues of integrating Sikhs with gaming world etc

a Sikh helmet won't be a bad idea




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Old 05-02-2008, 07:28 PM
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yeap your right 100%

ill just sit back and let mother nature deliver that message for me.

modern helmets provide significantly more protection because of the hardness of the carbon-fiber shell...the impact energy is converted into vibrations and then absorbed by the inner layers of hard foam and then by the soft cushions lining your head. (you also have your skin, skull and CSF fluid for further cushioning of the brain)
a turban cannot provide the harder outer shell protection. A turban also has a knack of coming off when it is tied loosely and experiences high G acceleration. Most turbans expose the areas on the anterior of the parietal bone (on the top of your cranium)...im talking about serious damage...the anterior fontanelle and sagittal suture are left exposed (these are the weak areas within your skull)...the turban provides minimal protection to the occipital bone, parietal and frontal eminence.



anyways
its just not safe thats all...although you should be free to wear whatever you wish. just dont complain when they are scraping pieces of your brain, off the freeway.
not unless, you wear a huge dhumalla with wires and chakars around it like nihangs.
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