Can Sikhs Eat Beef?

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Damdami Taksaal and AKJ maryada do not allow meat. keep in mind alot of those singhs who also drink and smoke follow sGPC. i know not all sikhs who drink and smoke too follow SGPC, and not all AKJers are as pure as they are supposed to be.
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my advice, since in america, u do not know if animal meat was killed non hallal or non kosher (basically animal torture) do not eat it.

However if u are nihang and u chatka on goat, and see it killed right way, then why not eat meat?

Of course, i prefer to not eat any, tatse, smell, etc. do not appeal to me

just ask urself- do YOU want to eat beef?

and then decide

amar ji

while that works for some, we have to think about gurbani/ if we ask ourselves, do i wanna do japji sahib today?

We say no though we should.

do we wanna commit adultery?

Sure, though we shouldn't.

Just because want to do or not want to do something, that should not be our guide in life, as gurmukh.

we should follow gurbani, not what we want.

Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Page 141

please see above

ਮਃ ੧ ॥
मः १ ॥
Mehlā 1.
First Mehl
ਹਕੁ ਪਰਾਇਆ ਨਾਨਕਾ ਉਸੁ ਸੂਅਰ ਉਸੁ ਗਾਇ ॥
हकु पराइआ नानका उसु सूअर उसु गाइ ॥
Hak parā­i­ā nānkā us sū­ar us gā­ė.
: To take what rightfully belongs to another, is like a Muslim eating pork, or a Hindu eating beef.
ਗੁਰੁ ਪੀਰੁ ਹਾਮਾ ਤਾ ਭਰੇ ਜਾ ਮੁਰਦਾਰੁ ਨ ਖਾਇ ॥
गुरु पीरु हामा ता भरे जा मुरदारु न खाइ ॥
Gur pīr hāmā ṯā bẖarė jā murḏār na kẖā­ė.
Our Guru, our Spiritual Guide, stands by us, if we do not eat those carcasses.



this is one of the similies used by Guru ji

he is explaining about taking something what is not rightfully ours - doing fraud, he equtes it to sin througha simily.

ਗਲੀ ਭਿਸਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਈਐ ਛੁਟੈ ਸਚੁ ਕਮਾਇ ॥
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गली भिसति न जाईऐ छुटै सचु कमाइ ॥
Galī bẖisaṯ na jā­ī­ai cẖẖutai sacẖ kamā­ė.
By mere talk, people do not earn passage to Heaven. Salvation comes only from the practice of Truth.
ਮਾਰਣ ਪਾਹਿ ਹਰਾਮ ਮਹਿ ਹੋਇ ਹਲਾਲੁ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥
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मारण पाहि हराम महि होइ हलालु न जाइ ॥
Māraṇ pāhi harām meh ho­ė halāl na jā­ė.
By adding spices to forbidden foods, they are not made acceptable.


haram andhalal are not words for meat. they are persian/arabic words for sinful and righteous. halal means correct, righteous. Haram means through wrong ways. the translator has tried to impose his own thoughts here. justbecause meats are referred in similies above, it does not mean that Guruji were sermoning on eating meat or not.

Guruji started the sermon/vak for explaning righteous conduct and the outcomes of wrong doings.
ਨਾਨਕ ਗਲੀ ਕੂੜੀਈ ਕੂੜੋ ਪਲੈ ਪਾਇ ॥੨॥
नानक गली कूड़ीई कूड़ो पलै पाइ ॥२॥
Nānak galī kūṛī­ī kūṛo palai pā­ė. ||2||
O Nanak, from false talk, only falsehood is obtained. ||2||

yes, you're allowed to. you're not a hindu. you don't worship cow.

however, if you live in india, most likely the only beef you will find is halal, and we are NOT allowed to eat halal. so if you're in india, you probably should avoid beef.

now whether or not you should eat any meat is a different question.

Sri Granth: Shabad/Paurhi/Salok Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Page 1289

also insights on the above?

Sorry to be spamming this thread, but here are more gurbani verses

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kbIr jIA ju mwrih joru kir khqy hih ju hlwlu ] (1375-5, slok, Bgq kbIr jI)
kabeer jee-a jo maareh jor kar kahtay heh jo halaal.
Kabeer, they oppress living beings and kill them, and call it proper.
dPqru deI jb kwiF hY hoiegw kaunu hvwlu ]199] (1375-5, slok, Bgq kbIr jI)
daftar da-ee jab kaadh hai ho-igaa ka-un havaal. ||199||
When the Lord calls for their account, what will their condition be? ||199||
kbIr joru kIAw so julmu hY lyie jbwbu Kudwie ] (1375-6, slok, Bgq kbIr jI)
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kabeer jor kee-aa so julam hai lay-ay jabaab khudaa-ay.
Kabeer, it is tyranny to use force; the Lord shall call you to account.
dPqir lyKw nIksY mwr muhY muih Kwie ]200] (1375-6, slok, Bgq kbIr jI)
daftar laykhaa neeksai maar muhai muhi khaa-ay. ||200||
When your account is called for, your face and mouth shall be beaten. ||200||


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rwm nwm kI giq nhI jwnI kYsy auqris pwrw ]1] (1103-1, mwrU, Bgq kbIr jI)
raam naam kee gat nahee jaanee kaisay utras paaraa. ||1||
You do not know the exalted state of the Lord's Name; how will you ever cross over? ||1||
jIA bDhu su Drmu kir Qwphu ADrmu khhu kq BweI ] (1103-2, mwrU, Bgq kbIr jI)
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jee-a baDhahu so Dharam kar thaapahu aDhram kahhu kat bhaa-ee.
You kill living beings, and call it a righteous action. Tell me, brother, what would you call an unrighteous action?
Awps kau muinvr kir Qwphu kw kau khhu ksweI ]2] (1103-2, mwrU, Bgq kbIr jI)
aapas ka-o munivar kar thaapahu kaa ka-o kahhu kasaa-ee. ||2||
You call yourself the most excellent sage; then who would you call a butcher? ||2||


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However, eating emat or not eating meat does not confer any cirtue, and has no real benefit besides better physical health and well being, and helps you gain respect for all gods creation. What we have in mind, our intent, and what we do matters more then not just eating meat. I hope you understand why i do not eat meat is to see gods presence in all, and is not ritual.

Sikhs can eat beef

This is the shabad referred to in the above posts. However, it is only a reference to flesh.There is no edict contained in it regarding taking or not taking the meat/flesh. You may follow the advice of kds ji and Jasleen ji.
I would suggest you to kindly go thru. Rehat Maryada at Sgpc.net.You will also learn many new things.

Shabad/Paurhi/Salok
ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਮਾਸਹੁ ਨਿੰਮਿਆ ਮਾਸੈ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਵਾਸੁ ॥

ਸਲੋਕ ਮਃ ੧ ॥
सलोक मः १ ॥
Salok mehlā 1.
Shalok, First Mehl:
ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਮਾਸਹੁ ਨਿੰਮਿਆ ਮਾਸੈ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਵਾਸੁ ॥
पहिलां मासहु निमिआ मासै अंदरि वासु ॥
Pahilāʼn māsahu nimmi­ā māsai anḏar vās.
First, the mortal is conceived in the flesh, and then he dwells in the flesh.
ਜੀਉ ਪਾਇ ਮਾਸੁ ਮੁਹਿ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਹਡੁ ਚੰਮੁ ਤਨੁ ਮਾਸੁ ॥
जीउ पाइ मासु मुहि मिलिआ हडु चमु तनु मासु ॥
Jī­o pā­ė mās muhi mili­ā had cẖamm ṯan mās.
When he comes alive, his mouth takes flesh; his bones, skin and body are flesh.
ਮਾਸਹੁ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਕਢਿਆ ਮੰਮਾ ਮਾਸੁ ਗਿਰਾਸੁ ॥
मासहु बाहरि कढिआ ममा मासु गिरासु ॥
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Māsahu bāhar kadẖi­ā mammā mās girās.
He comes out of the womb of flesh, and takes a mouthful of flesh at the breast.
ਮੁਹੁ ਮਾਸੈ ਕਾ ਜੀਭ ਮਾਸੈ ਕੀ ਮਾਸੈ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸਾਸੁ ॥
मुहु मासै का जीभ मासै की मासै अंदरि सासु ॥
Muhu māsai kā jībẖ māsai kī māsai anḏar sās.
His mouth is flesh, his tongue is flesh; his breath is in the flesh.
ਵਡਾ ਹੋਆ ਵੀਆਹਿਆ ਘਰਿ ਲੈ ਆਇਆ ਮਾਸੁ ॥
वडा होआ वीआहिआ घरि लै आइआ मासु ॥
vadā ho­ā vī­āhi­ā gẖar lai ā­i­ā mās.
He grows up and is married, and brings his wife of flesh into his home.
ਮਾਸਹੁ ਹੀ ਮਾਸੁ ਊਪਜੈ ਮਾਸਹੁ ਸਭੋ ਸਾਕੁ ॥
मासहु ही मासु ऊपजै मासहु सभो साकु ॥
Māsahu hī mās ūpjai māsahu sabẖo sāk.
Flesh is produced from flesh; all relatives are made of flesh.
ਸਤਿਗੁਰਿ ਮਿਲਿਐ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਬੁਝੀਐ ਤਾਂ ਕੋ ਆਵੈ ਰਾਸਿ ॥
सतिगुरि मिलिऐ हुकमु बुझीऐ तां को आवै रासि ॥
Saṯgur mili­ai hukam bujẖī­ai ṯāʼn ko āvai rās.
When the mortal meets the True Guru, and realizes the Hukam of the Lord's Command, then he comes to be reformed.
ਆਪਿ ਛੁਟੇ ਨਹ ਛੂਟੀਐ ਨਾਨਕ ਬਚਨਿ ਬਿਣਾਸੁ ॥੧॥
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आपि छुटे नह छूटीऐ नानक बचनि बिणासु ॥१॥
Āp cẖẖutė nah cẖẖūtī­ai Nānak bacẖan biṇās. ||1||
Releasing himself, the mortal does not find release; O Nanak, through empty words, one is ruined. ||1||