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18-01-2008, 01:20 AM
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| | Sikh Sangat challanged Prof. Darshan Singh on distorting Dasam Granth Bani
Sikh Sangat challanged Prof. Darshan Singh on distorting Dasam Granth Bani
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Amritsar: Akhand kirtani jatha has warned Prof Darshan Singh that he should discuss with them Dasam Granth and Vaar of Bhai Gurdass singh ji in presence of international media, panthic scholars and Sikh sangat. The spokesman of Jatha, Dr Balwinder Singh and eleven member committee member Bhai Mohkam Singh in a press note stated that they will prove that Prof Darshan Singh is preaching against Gurbani and playing into the hands of anti Sikh forces.
It is worth to mention that Prof Darshan Singh on Jan 5 birthday of sahib Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj spoke against Bachitra natak, Dasam Granth and Hemkunt sahib in Gurudwara Rakab Ganj, Delhi. It hurt the sangat present there and their religious feelings were outraged. Some young men opposed it in Diwan Hall and a stampede was created there thereby everyone left the Gurudwara. Direct relay of programme from TV was also canceled.
Akhand kirtani jatha said if Darshan singh considers himself wiser than panthic scholars then he should have debate with Prof Jodh Singh, Giani Sher Singh Ambala, Kanwar Ajit singh, Dr Anokh Singh Bhatinda in presence of media and sangat on Dasam Granth and Bhai Gurdas Singh ji 2nd. | 
18-01-2008, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by kds1980 Sikh Sangat challanged Prof. Darshan Singh on distorting Dasam Granth Bani
Sikh Sangat challanged Prof. Darshan Singh on distorting Dasam Granth Bani
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Jan 14, 2008 - 4:54:04 PM
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Amritsar: Akhand kirtani jatha has warned Prof Darshan Singh that he should discuss with them Dasam Granth and Vaar of Bhai Gurdass singh ji in presence of international media, panthic scholars and Sikh sangat. The spokesman of Jatha, Dr Balwinder Singh and eleven member committee member Bhai Mohkam Singh in a press note stated that they will prove that Prof Darshan Singh is preaching against Gurbani and playing into the hands of anti Sikh forces.
It is worth to mention that Prof Darshan Singh on Jan 5 birthday of sahib Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj spoke against Bachitra natak, Dasam Granth and Hemkunt sahib in Gurudwara Rakab Ganj, Delhi. It hurt the sangat present there and their religious feelings were outraged. Some young men opposed it in Diwan Hall and a stampede was created there thereby everyone left the Gurudwara. Direct relay of programme from TV was also canceled.
Akhand kirtani jatha said if Darshan singh considers himself wiser than panthic scholars then he should have debate with Prof Jodh Singh, Giani Sher Singh Ambala, Kanwar Ajit singh, Dr Anokh Singh Bhatinda in presence of media and sangat on Dasam Granth and Bhai Gurdas Singh ji 2nd. | Good thing he didn't read Chritropakhiyan, he would've been dead by now!!!  __________________ www.prince911.deviantart.com 
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18-01-2008, 01:30 AM
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| | Sri Dasam Granth of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji santsipahi.org As if afflicted by compulsive disorder to spread canard and blasphemy, Spokesman,a Chandigarh based news paper ostracized from the Panth by Akal Takhat Sahib has once again repeated its anti-Sikh stance on the occasion of the parkash utsav of Guru Gobind Singh ji. In its 4th January issue it has alleged that Prof. Darshan Singh, a former Jathedar of Sri Akal Takhat Sahib condemned and ridiculed Bachittar Natak, autobiography of Guru Gobind Singh ji by saying that Bachittar Natak or Sri Dasam Granth Sahib has a philosophy and ideology contradictory to Sri Guru Granth Sahib. The paper goes on to put the words in the mouth of Prof. Darshan Singh that as per Bachittar Natak Guru Nanak Dev ji to Guru Gobind Singh are not one jyot. The above statement is nothing but mischievous. Guru Gobind Singh ji in his biography Bachittar Natak very categorically notes: sri nanak angad kar mana, amar das angad pehchana. amar das ram das kahayo, sadhan lakha moorh nahi payo.9 bhinn bhinn sabh hu kar jana, ek roop kinhoo pechana. jin jana tin hi sidh payee, bin samjhe isdh hath na aye.10
Sri Nanak was accepted as Angad and (Guru) Angad was identified as (Guru) Amar Das. Guru Amar Das was called (Guru) Ram Das and this mystery was understood by the saints but the stupid ones could not follow it.9 Ordinary persons considered them in different forms but some rare ones understood them as one. Those who knew them as one attained (all) the high spiritual stages but without understanding (the mysteries) nothing can be attained.10. Prof. Darshan Singh had been the Jathedar of Akal Takhat Sahib and has to his credit hundreds of Shabads sung and articles written from Bachittar Natak and Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. It is absolutely inconceivable as how a man of religious stature of Prof. Darshan Singh could ignore all his previous kirtan and writings. Sri Dasam Granth Sahib is installed at Takhat Sri Patna Sahib and Takhat Sachkhand Hazur Sahib and Prof. Darshan Singh on numerous occasions had done kirtan from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib at the stages of these Takhats too. It was only because of these Machiavellian machinations of anti-Sikh forces to create dissensions and confusion, that Akal Takhat Sahib had to issue a Hukamnama declaring those speaking against Sri Dasam Granth Sahib as "mischievous elements". It is now imperative for Prof. Darshan Singh to clarify his stand on the alleged report of Spokesman which tarnishes his image and also violates the edict of Sri Akal Takhat Sahib and is nothing but mischievously blasphemous. Chair IHRO IHRO Sikh Affairs __________________ -Archived_Member aakha jeeva visrai mar jao | 
20-01-2008, 07:37 PM
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| | Prof darshan Singh has given his statement in Jan 20 Rozana Spokesman. Rozana Spokesman Online........
1. In Hazoor Sahib in the Morning Diwan he questioned as to When Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave "Equal rights" to Dsm Granth to be Paraksh at same level as Guru Garnth Sahib Ji. According to him everyone accepts that Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave Gurgadhi ONLY to ONE GRANTH - SGGS.
The Management wanted him to do ONLY "Kiratn" and no katha in the evening Diwan - he Refused to do kiratn under conditions.
2. The Guru teg bahadur Gurdwara Jallandhar also wanted him to do nirol Kirtan - he refused to comply with such conditions which censor his katha. This REFUSAL was relayed to the Gurdawra Pardhan on the phone itself - no sangat stopped him.
MY views: The DG controversy is needless and divisive. The Panth should sit down and discuss the issue and settle it for good. Name calling, "Warnings" etc are counter productive..we are all Sikhs and we can sit down together..Gurmukh baitheh saffan vichayeah...is Gurbani.
Gyani jarnail Singh
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20-01-2008, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh
MY views: The DG controversy is needless and divisive. |
as far as i can see, the DG controversy is MEANT to be divisive. it was created to divide the panth and if we don't stop it soon it may succeed. __________________ -Archived_Member aakha jeeva visrai mar jao | 
09-02-2008, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jasleen_kaur as far as i can see, the DG controversy is MEANT to be divisive. it was created to divide the panth and if we don't stop it soon it may succeed. | Response
Jasleen Kaur ji
You are right .There was no DG controversey on authenticity of DG banis in 17th ,18th and 19th century.It cropped up when Bhag singh of Arya samaj and Hindu background created it in 1970s.He was repeating the charge of Swami Daya Nand who had criticized Dasam Granth as it showed Hindu Avtars in bad light and Dasam Granth had put them under the command of akal purakh.
Now people like Darshan singh who had been doing kirtan of DG banis all his life and made money from it is turning other way around.At best this is hypocricy and treachery.
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17-05-2008, 01:59 AM
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| | Waheguru ji ka khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh,
I felt so ashamed to read all of your posts on Prof. Darshan Singh Khalsa Ji.
1984, after attack, how many Sikh families were distroyed in India? Why Satwant Singh Ji & Kehar singh Ji were hanged?
Our Guru Gobind Singh ji wants us to become a Khalsa not pin point others!
We have to ask these questions to our self, are we amritdhari sikhs belongs to Guru Gobind Singh JI.
We have to BOW our head to Guru Granth Sahib JI
We have to Follow Rehat Maryada from Akal Thakat sahib
We have to so open mind, to see what is the Truth behind it not follow others.
How come, Jathedar, Vedanti Ji didn't say anything or other Four Thakat Jathedar.
Panch( Five Jathedhar) has to make a desicion.
Please look in to your soul think, what is the main cause. So far all the Gurudwars has only Guru Granth Sahib ji Parkash.
I hope i am not offending any one these are just my views.
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17-05-2008, 02:07 AM
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| | We all work and earned money with different jobs.
Doing Kirtan on stages, we as sangats sits and listen to it when are so happy than we give money not to a person to a KIRTAN.
We do Bow our self to Guru Granth Sahib ji, where does than money go. Some day we will pin point why we are donating a money when we do the Matha Take.
Please, do not insult any one who Play Kirtan
Thank You
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17-05-2008, 02:09 AM
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| | [Prof darshan Singh has given his statement in Jan 20 Rozana Spokesman. Rozana Spokesman Online........
1. In Hazoor Sahib in the Morning Diwan he questioned as to When Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave "Equal rights" to Dsm Granth to be Paraksh at same level as Guru Garnth Sahib Ji. According to him everyone accepts that Guru Gobind Singh Ji gave Gurgadhi ONLY to ONE GRANTH - SGGS.
The Management wanted him to do ONLY "Kiratn" and no katha in the evening Diwan - he Refused to do kiratn under conditions.
2. The Guru teg bahadur Gurdwara Jallandhar also wanted him to do nirol Kirtan - he refused to comply with such conditions which censor his katha. This REFUSAL was relayed to the Gurdawra Pardhan on the phone itself - no sangat stopped him.
MY views: The DG controversy is needless and divisive. The Panth should sit down and discuss the issue and settle it for good. Name calling, "Warnings" etc are counter productive..we are all Sikhs and we can sit down together..Gurmukh baitheh saffan vichayeah...is Gurbani.
Binder Mandur
Canada
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17-05-2008, 03:39 PM
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| | www.sangatsansar.com. pay a visit. the DG controversy will clear itself...and all questions will be answered (some asked by Binder Mandur...others asked by many others before this...)
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