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Awp jI dw jbwb iblkul shI hY jI]
pRo drSn isMG jI kwPI ivdvwn hn Aqy swfI srbacqw isrP Akwl qKqswihb AimRqsr hI hY]
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Please use words with respect. If you can not give life to others than you do not have any rights to take it too.
Kirtan doesn't belongs to one person it's our BANI it's from Guru Granth Sahib JI so please use your own brain.
Thank you

I was thinking of doing my Doctorate with a view to possibly being a Professor, but being a Sikh and a Professor is a bad combination as people seem always ready to excommunicate you or beat you up!!!!

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Randip Singh
Sikh History Website

"Let no man be proud because of his caste/race (Jaat).
For the man who has God in his heart, he alone is the true Brahmin.
O stupid fool, be not proud of your caste/race (Jaat), by this pride many sins arise.
Everyone says there are four castes/races (Jaat), but they are all created from the Lords seed (essence).
All men are moulded from the same clay, but the potter has fashioned it into vessels of numerous forms.
By joining the five elements, the form of the body is made, no one can say that the element is less in one and more in another" Pg 1128 SGGS

Yeh! Or call you a bad thing. Jios, the Guru who wrote some or all of Dasam Granth is the same Guru who made Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj -- the Guru Granth. This is our Guru. And this same 10th Guru did not claim gurgaddi for his own Bani. This same man did not have animosity in his heart. Why do we?

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ਮਨ ਕਰਹਲਾ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥ man karehalaa gur govindh samaal O camel-like mind, dwell upon the Guru and the Lord of the Universe.

I have always viewed Dasam Granth like and Appendix to the the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. There is no doubt, things like Zafarnama in the Dasam Granth were written by the 10th Master, but there are other things that are not. Many people get confused by the outright Hiduistic terminology in Dasam Granth, but I ask people before I learned Calculus, I had to learn to count. In the same way, before Guruji can explain advanced Sikh concepts to the fledgling Sikh community, he had to explian concepts in terms they were familiar with, in this case Hindu concepts.

I suggest read Dasam Granth ji before dismissing it.

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Randip Singh
Sikh History Website

"Let no man be proud because of his caste/race (Jaat).
For the man who has God in his heart, he alone is the true Brahmin.
O stupid fool, be not proud of your caste/race (Jaat), by this pride many sins arise.
Everyone says there are four castes/races (Jaat), but they are all created from the Lords seed (essence).
All men are moulded from the same clay, but the potter has fashioned it into vessels of numerous forms.
By joining the five elements, the form of the body is made, no one can say that the element is less in one and more in another" Pg 1128 SGGS

Randip ji

The Dasam Granth is an awesome work of religious thinking and poetry. Depending on a person's temperament there are parts that can blow you away. Blow me away anyway, from Jap Sahib forward.

The writing is energetic, strong and forceful. And in my personal opinion, the historical events surrounding its composition had a lot to do with its style and the poetic vision of the author -- Guru Gobind Singh ji. He wrote in a time when all the energy of the Creator was needed to withstand the assault on Sikh values and purpose and belief. So Guru Gobind channeled that energy into writing that would literally pump into his Sikhs as much hope as required to believe in victory and a sense of a different future. All the dhyann and all the past visions of Dharma had to flow like a river rushing without impediment toward a positive ending.

The rhythms of Dasam Granth are so different. They charge the reader with a feeling of God's dominion and their own inevitable victory. It convinced the Sikhs of his time that after much destruction, death, and chaos, that victory would be theirs in the part of the world that Sikhs defended, and only after much personal loss and suffering. And later, though the British prevailed, Sikhism had already evolved to a religion of victory by God and the soul. This is the way that I read Dasam Granth -- moved from within toward a sense of outward stability.

Sooner or later the bickering must quiet down. Some significant differences must still be addressed. The unfortunate result for now is that this holy book will be used as a political football instead of the voice of liberation that it is until the debate ends.

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ਮਨ ਕਰਹਲਾ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥ man karehalaa gur govindh samaal O camel-like mind, dwell upon the Guru and the Lord of the Universe.

Good work you all.Keep it up. At least, we are reading something.
I know one thing for fact,' Guru Gobind Singh Ji" Has given us name Khalsa," Panj Piyare" so we should be more wiser and smart.
we have one humen life so we should read bani undestand bani Become a Khalsa a TRUE KHALSA from our heart.

One thing more we should bow our head to Akal Takhat Sahib In Amritsar (Harimandher
GOLDEN TEMPLE) we have five Takhat but all of the Five Jathedhar has to be present to Jari a Hukamnama. Not one or two.
Wahe Guru JI Ka Khalsa Wahe Guru ji Ki Fateh

That is my point too!

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ਮਨ ਕਰਹਲਾ ਗੁਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦੁ ਸਮਾਲਿ ॥ man karehalaa gur govindh samaal O camel-like mind, dwell upon the Guru and the Lord of the Universe.

Randip Singh Ji

Gur Fateh Parwaan, JI,

I have read the "Dhasam Granth Ji" I bow my head to "Guru Granth Sahib Ji" every day infact twice a day. For knowledge I read Dhasam Granth and I do read every day Guru Granth Sahib Ji.
I do belive in one thing, Guru Gobind Singh Ji has given us name Khalsa also Gurgadi was given to Guru Granth Sahib ji.
So you should do a PHD on Dasham Granth. I am very delighted to know Person Like you from UK has that much knowledge.
No hard feelings but I am impressed by your views and others.

Gur fateh

Panch Parwaan, Panch Pardhan, Panche pavae darge maan, Pacha ka Gur eik dheyan

Khalsa Ji,

I want to your oppninion what is the defination of
Sikh
Khalsa
what name we will give ( when we are sitting in Deewan Hall in front of Guru Granth Sahib Ji) ( sadh Sangat, Sangat or Gur-sangat)
When we have Parkaash of Guru Grath sahib ji in the Gurudwara, we should BOW our head ( Matha Take) to Guru Granth sahib ji to which Gur gadhi Has given
Guru Gobind Singh Ji said, jo hum ko parmeshwar ucher hain


Gur Fateh JI