Waheguru Gurmantar

Pyramid · #31 (**permalink**) 23-Jan-2008, 23:45 PM

Jasleen Ji I just posted above:

I say again- Please drink some cold water.
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I am talking not fighting.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj
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Archived_Member1 · #32 (**permalink**) 23-Jan-2008, 23:47 PM

perhaps you should not only talk, but read the responses too...

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just a suggestion...

Pyramid · #33 (**permalink**) 23-Jan-2008, 23:56 PM

Jatinder Ji,

After Reading Guru Granth Sahib many times and after studying Sikh History during Guru Ji's Time, I am looking for the Real PanjPyaras who have sarificed their heads to THE ULTIMATE GURU. I couldn't find one.

Just for everybody's information: I am an Amrit Dhari, since I turned 16, but at that time I had no idea what Amrit was, I did what my parents made me do. I am 70 year old man now, still looking for REAL PANJ PYARAAS. IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG IN THIS?

Sherb Ji's statement about substituing Panjpyaar with Guru, made me come and post here. But it seems like Jasleen Bhen cannot hear another viewpoint of a fellow human. God Bless Her.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasleen_kaur

perhaps you should not only talk, but read the responses too...

just a suggestion...

same suggestion for you bhen.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasleen_kaur

and sorry, my mother in law told me not to drink cold water in winter time. apparently it's some indian tradition or something.

Then drink regular water

Jasleen Bhen, I am looking for just Real Khalsa, that's all, you know any tell me. I would like to meet with him/her.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj

Sherab · #34 (**permalink**) 24-Jan-2008, 00:10 AM

Pyramid-ji, maybe panj pyare are a link to waheguru ji, and waheguru, with his kind look, allows those humans to create amrit?

Remember, humans have no virtue at all.
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maybe this is why you cannot find a true panj pyare, without waheguru ji's grace

Archived_Member1 · #35 (**permalink**) 24-Jan-2008, 00:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyramid

Jatinder Ji,

After Reading Guru Granth Sahib many times and after studying Sikh History during Guru Ji's Time, I am looking for the Real PanjPyaras who have sarificed their heads to THE ULTIMATE GURU. I couldn't find one.

Just for everybody's information: I am an Amrit Dhari, since I turned 16, but at that time I had no idea what Amrit was, I did what my parents made me do. I am 70 year old man now, still looking for REAL PANJ PYARAAS. IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG IN THIS?

Sherb Ji's statement about substituing Panjpyaar with Guru, made me come and post here. But it seems like Jasleen Bhen cannot hear another viewpoint of a fellow human. God Bless Her.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj

same suggestion for you bhen.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj

Then drink regular water

Jasleen Bhen, I am looking for just Real Khalsa, that's all, you know any tell me. I would like to meet with him/her.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj

sorry uncle ji, i didn't realize. i thought you were trying to make trouble. i apologize.

(going to drink water now)

drkhalsa · #36 (**permalink**) 24-Jan-2008, 00:33 AM

Quote:

Just for everybody's information: I am an Amrit Dhari, since I turned 16, but at that time I had no idea what Amrit was, I did what my parents made me do. I am 70 year old man now, still looking for REAL PANJ PYARAAS. IS THERE ANYTHING WRONG IN THIS?

Thanks for your response!

There is nothin wrong in your viewpoint.

Can I Help you Find one ?

Good news is YES !
I am serious , I have personally met one such man in India and he is my friend .
I can give you his contact details , he normally lives in Delhi his name is Vijaydeep Singh
If interested to be friend with him just let me know

Thanks

Jatinder Singh

Pyramid · #37 (**permalink**) 24-Jan-2008, 00:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherab

Pyramid-ji, maybe panj pyare are a link to waheguru ji, and waheguru, with his kind look, allows those humans to create amrit?

Remember, humans have no virtue at all.

maybe this is why you cannot find a true panj pyare, without waheguru ji's grace

Sherab Ji,

I thought exactly in this manner for many many years. After I started to understand Gurbani, my belief started to change. According to Gurbani we must lead a virtous life, keeping the five thieves under control. Along with all this we must not become egoistic about it either- lead a life full of virtues and remain low. Our company should also be with those who follow Guru's word, ie Real Gurmukh. Guru and God are same and unique and Carefree.

Waheguru Ji's grace is not absent in anyone, not even in todays panjpyaras, you me or anyone else. It is present all the time, everywhere. It is a matter of realizing that grace. Not finding PanjPyaras cannot lessen the grace by any means. Because before 1699, blessing was still there. It is Aad Sach Jugad Sach Hai Bhi Sach Nanak Hosee Bhi sach.

We cannot close our eyes from the prevailing truth by saying- humans dont have any virtues. Humans do have it all, thats why Guru Ji was able to find Panj Pyaras. And for the same reason, Gurbani tells us to become Khalas(pure).

This desire to see real panj Pyaraas is also a Gift of God to teach me something. And sharing my views with you and asking for their whereabouts is also a Gift of The Same Almighty.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkhalsa

Thanks for your response!

There is nothin wrong in your viewpoint.

Can I Help you Find one ?

Good news is YES !
I am serious , I have personally met one such man in India and he is my friend .
I can give you his contact details , he normally lives in Delhi his name is Vijaydeep Singh
If interested to be friend with him just let me know

Thanks

Jatinder Singh

Jatinder Ji,

Sure why not. We will see.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasleen_kaur

sorry uncle ji, i didn't realize. i thought you were trying to make trouble. i apologize.

(going to drink water now)

Jasleen Ji,

Chalo hun ta khush ho na.

Tuhada Das
Yugraj

SSMDCX · #38 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2008, 00:59 AM

The Gur Parsadee Writing Is Bhai Sahib Gurdass Ji's Explanation Of The Guru Manter "vaheguru" And Not By Any Means Ours, We Have Just Put It In To Simpler Words For Folks To Understand It Easily. Naam Is Not Any Kind Of A Concept - It Has Been There Since Before The Creation Came In To Being - "aap Hi Ney Aap Saajyeo Aap Hi Ne Racheyo Nao" - And That Is Ik Oankaar Sat Naamm - Sat Is The Naam - Sat Is The Guru - Jap Munn Sat Naam Sada Sat Naam - Kirtam Naam Kathey Tere Jihva Sat Naam Tera Para Purablaa- Mool Sat Sat Utpatt - Naam Sat Sat Dhyavan Haar - Aap Sat Keyaa Sabh Sat - Tis Prabh Tey Saglee Utpat - And So On - So Sat Is The Naam.
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Narayanjot Kaur · #39 (**permalink**) 13-Feb-2008, 13:04 PM

Why would He create a race of humans without any virtues? Why would He want to do that?

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