** Waheguru Gurmantar **

Ik Oankaar Sat Naam Satgur Parsaad
Dhan Dhan Gur-Guru-Satgur-Gurbani-Sat Naam-Sat Sangat
Kottan Kot Dandaut Parvaan Karna Ji; Gur Fateh Parvaan Karna Ji

With the Anant Beyant Gur Kirpa Gur Parsaad we are trying to dedicate following Seva at the Shree Charans of Dhan Dhan Guru and Dhan Dhan Akal Purakh and Dhan Dhan Sat Sangat Ji:S

HABAD “VAHIGURU” DEVINE MEANING

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sathijug sathigur vaasadhaev vaavaa vishanaa naam japaavaidhuaapar sathigur hareekrishan haahaa har har naam dhhiaavaithraethae sathigur raam jee raaraa raam japae sukh paavaikalijug naanak gur gobi(n)dh gagaa govi(n)dh naam japaavaichaarae jaagae chahu jugee pa(n)chaaein vich jaae samaavaichaaro(n) ashhar eik kar vaahiguroo jap ma(n)thr japaavaijehaa(n) thae oupajiaa fir thehaa(n) samaavai

This Shabad by Dhan Dhan Bhai Gurdass Ji explains how the Shabad “Vahiguru” came in to existance and what does it mean. It basically describes the Mahima - praise of Lord Vishnu as a Satgur in Sat Yug by taking the First letter of His Name “Va” in the Shabad “Vahiguru”, then this Shabad describes the Mahima – praise of Lord Krishna as a Satgur in the Dwaaper Yug, Who was and Who is being remembered as HareeKrishna by the masses and this divine name gives us the letter “Hi” of the Shabad “Vahiguru”, then the Shabad describes the Mahima of Lord Ram as a Satgur in the Treta Yug and this divine name gives the letter “Ru” in the Shabad “Vahiguru”, whereas this Shabad descibes the Mahima of Guru Nanak Patshah Ji as a Satgur in the Kal Yug as Gobind – God Nirankaar- gives us the letter “Gu” in the Shabad Vahiguru. This means that the Shabad Vahiguru represents all the Satgurus – Vishnu, Ram, Krishn, and Guru Nanak Patshah Ji from all ages – Sat Yug, Treta Yug, Dwaaper Yug and Kalyug and therefore it is called the Gurmanter – because it represents the Satgurus of all four ages. When we recite the Shabad “Vahiguru” then we infect recite the Mahima – praise of these Satgurus – Vishnu, Ram, Krishan and Guru Nanak Patshah Ji, so this Shabad “Vahiguru” is not the Naam, but it is the Mahima of these Satgurus, the praise of these Satgurus and by reciting the Shabad “Vahiguru” we don’t recite the Naam but we do remember these Satgurus of all four ages, we do recite the praise of these Satgurus. In the end Bhai Gurdass Ji has said that when we recite this Shabad “Vahiguru” then we go back to the Origin, which indirectly means that we reach the salvation. This Pauri also signifies that the Satgurus – Vishnu, Harikrishna, Ram and Nanak in these four ages as described above served and delivered the Naam to the Sangat. (This also clarifies that only a Satgur can deliver the Naam to the Sangat.) The most important thing to understand here is that Bhai Gurdass Ji have explained the Shabad “Vahiguru” as the Mahima if the Satguru and not the Naam and have called the Shabad “Vahiguru” as Mante (and not Gur Manterr, whereas most people understand the Shabad “Vahiguru” as Naam and call it a Gur Manter, which is contrary to what Bhai Gurdass Ji have explained in this Shabad. Whereas the Shabad “SAT” has very clearly been defined as a NAAM that leads us to the Jivan Mukti and beyond Maya as announced by Dhan Dhan Shri Guru Nanak Patshah Ji in the Mool Manter (explained in an earlier Gur Parsaadee writing). So when we recite the Shabad “Sat Naam Vahiguru” (please note that the Shabad Sat Naam leads the Shabad Vahiguru) it means that “SAT” is the “NAAM” and this Naam is “Dhan Dhan” – the Mahima of all the Satgurus from all four ages – Dhan Dhan Vishnu Ji, Dhan Dhan HareeKrishn Ji, Dhan Dhan Shri Ram Ji and Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Patshah Ji, so when we recite the Shabad “Sat Naam Vahiguru” then we mean that “SAT” is the “NAAM” and The Satgurus Vishnu, Krishna, Ram and Nanak are the Mahima of this Naam, which means that when we do Sat Naam Vahiguru Simran then we remember the Nirgun Saroop of Akal Purakh and also His Mahima in terms of these Satgurus – Ram, Krishan, Vishnu and Nanak. This also means that the Mahima of Akal Purakh – which are the Satgurus – Vishnu, Ram, Krishan and Nanak is next to the Naam, the Naam came in to existance first and then the Mahima came in to existance, the Akal Purakh came in to existance first, then His Naam came into existance and then the Mahima came in to existance – which means that Naam is bigger than Mahima, the Mahima will lead you to the Naam and then the Naam will lead you to the Akal Purak ( this is exactly what happened to us – started with Vahiguru Simran, then got blessed with the Gur Parsaad of Naam, Puran Bandgi and Seva, so switched to Sat Naam Vahiguru Simran, then Sat Naam Simran, then only SAT Simran and then even SAT disappeared –Namastang Nirnamy as described by Dhan Dhan Dassam Patshah Ji in Jaap Sahib). Some people have misunderstood that we have changed the Gurmanter to Sat Naam, which is not true, Sat is the Naam and Vahiguru Manter is the Mahima of Akal Purakh or Mahima of Naam and that will remain so, nobody can change it, all we have tried to bring out this Puran SAT – divine truth to the masses and nothing else. This doesn’t mean that you can’t meditate on the Shabad Vahiguru, you can continue to do so until you get the Gur Parsaad of Naam, Puran Bandgi and Seva and then as we said you will automatically switch to Sat Naam Vahiguru and so on. So please remove that misunderstanding from your minds and be clear about the eternal divine truth that SAT is the Naam, SAT is the Guru, and Vahiguru is the Mahima of Akal Purakh Ji and His Bhagats, the Mahima of Satgur.
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question to balbir singh:

why do you repeatedly ask questions that other people have answered for you in other threads? can't remember? do a search. i'm in no mood to argue with you.

As stated above when we recite 'vaheguru' we are doing mahima of the satgurus. In fact we are doing nothing by saying the first alphabets in the form of a word.it is human imagination only that we are praising the four satgurus.

2.It is not clear as to how you have arrived at that these four satgurus were responsible for giving Naam. So far sikhs are concerned the 'Naam' and its concept started only in 15/16th century.

3. Yes, we all consider 'Vaheguru' as naam only ,it is the way the things are unless there is some revolutionary concept that you are telling us.[What is mante?]

4. It is well known that 'waheguru' gurumantar hey has come from Bhai sahib only.

5. You have used Lord with vishnu, Krishna, Ram but have not used the same with Nanak dev ji. Any specific reasons for this. In which context Lord is used.We generally use it as alter-nemo for God.

6. The portion above that is not colored in blue has been cramped and some concepts are lost. Shall be grateful if yoiu could kindly rephrase it and type it in slightly bolder font.
Thanks and regards.

Jasleen ji

Speaking as mod now. You describe an annoying pattern of repeating questions asked and answered in other threads (and also in other forums). What you have detected is a technique referred to as "trolling". The intent of trolling is to throw a forum into an uproar. The effects are usually temporary. Until the next trolling incident occurs.
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One of my favorite examples comes from a thread on SPN entitled "Does God Have Hands." Speaks for itself.

In this thread, the comment by Balbir ji "For example, Gurdev never said that 'Waheguru' was Gurumantra but the writer of the article referred insists that Waheguru is Gurumantra" is explicitly contradicted by Bhai Gurdas in Vaar 13 Pauree 2. This has already been pointed out by Kaur-1 Bhenji in another thread. But Balbir will say that Gurdev didn't say it so what Bhai Gurdas says doesn't count. Trolling. Throws a bunch of people into an uproar.

aad.
as a mod you have some rights.kindly delete that is not as per norms and is well within your rights.

Jios

Most of you are well versed enough in Gurmat to know that this is full of internal contradictions.

Sikh80 ji,

Your comments pretty much sum up the problems with the thesis (?) of SSMDCX ji).

Also, Sikh80 ji

I believe in free speech and the ability of most people in the forum to sort out what is going on here.

aad2000
It is fine with me. Kindly proceed as that you like as mod. if i have done something that is not as per norms and rules of your site.

Sikh80 ji
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15045

You are OK in my book.

aad2000
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It is fine.