Who is Marrying Sikh Men?

Luckysingh · #10 (**permalink**) 09-Jun-2012, 12:55 PM

I don't think that marriage holds all the hope for religion.
Marriage issues are more social and cultural with religion being used as bait.
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kds1980 · #11 (**permalink**) 09-Jun-2012, 14:11 PM

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4) Now the most shocking thing, I saw my cousin married a hindu boy, she had a brother. Who wanted to cut his hair and was against his sister marrige to a hindu boy. But every one ruled over him saying, its her wish so everyone agreed. But then he said , if she has the freedom to follow her religion y I don't have the freedom not to follow the same religion. and in protest he cut his hair after his sister marriage. His mother stopped talking to him. After three months his mother stopped talking to him, he left the home. That tore their family apart.

Urban Sikhs of India are perhaps only few people in this world who restrict their boys much more than girls.If the boy say he wants to cut his hair then all hell broke on him,parents will not talk ,relative will not talk etc and if the girl say that she wants to marry hindu boy and then follow his custom many families do agree with it

kds1980 · #12 (**permalink**) 09-Jun-2012, 14:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckysingh

I don't think that marriage holds all the hope for religion.
Marriage issues are more social and cultural with religion being used as bait.

We. still don't have culture of single unwed mothers so almost 99.9% children comes through marriage in this world.Look at Parsi's inter marriages was one of the main reason for the decline of their population

sid · #13 (**permalink**) 10-Jun-2012, 13:42 PM

marriage should and must be based on decision of soul,heart and respect And its aim always should be focused for love,understanding,peace,happiness,prosperity.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-rehat-maryada/33888-who-is-marrying-sikh-men.html
and most important before marriage a very good party.

so who is giving party????????

findingmyway · #14 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2012, 00:05 AM

Strange how this thread is all speculation from males about a woman is thinking!!! I don't think beard and turban has anything to do with it. If Sikh men were less hypocritical (gave up alcohol and stopped demanding women shave their legs to make themselves 'pretty' while expecting to be accepted for their own kesh), or treated women with equality (stopped making demands such as give up your own career), and were more respectful in their treatment of women, then women looking for Sikhs who are also Sikhs in their hearts and actions would not be left disappointed.

dakkuSingh · #15 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2012, 00:51 AM

@above :
I don't think ur from india or u may not be aware of the issue plaguing the sikh community here in india.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=33888
Sikh is not any easy religion to follow. Wearing a turban and keeping beard for 12 hr a day through out ones life is not an easy thing. These hard paced life and cut throat competition who has time for religion or who cares about religion. Religion is inherit from his parent whether he likes it or not.
Given a choice most sikh boy in india, wont like to wear a turban except those who's shops run on religion. Similarly given a choice most of girl will not marry a turban wearing sikh.
Assuming some one know to you cut his hair.Can you assure me that your opinion about him wont change, you will treat him as he was treated before.And also by rest of the society. He wont be called cut surd or monna.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=33888
I suggest you to google for the sex ration of girl to boy in india for sikh religion.It shocking the facts. That too a indian gov statistic of 2005 . Now is 2012.

May be thats y one dosent find many untrimmed turban wearing sikh in punjab, if this keeps up soon here wont be any in other states of india.

My main point is that, this has become a catastrophic issue for sikh religion in india. If this is not addressed by the elders or other people. You may lose few believers or followers of sikh religion remaining.

Finally question if sikh religion is so great, how many people from other religion have you seen convert to sikhism in last decade. I can say that at my age of 27 yrs,I have seen only 1 person convert to truban,sikh way of life. and he too was kicked out of his house by his wife and sons and had to live in gurudwara.
Come out of surreal world, u r not living in an egalitarian society.

findingmyway · #16 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2012, 00:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dakkuSingh

Similarly given a choice most of girl will not marry a turban wearing sikh.

Not true. There are many of us who refuse to marry a non-turbanned Sikh. All the women in my family (inside India and out) have proved this fact already.

Kanwaljit Singh · #17 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2012, 04:43 AM

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Sikh is not any easy religion to follow. Wearing a turban and keeping beard for 12 hr a day through out ones life is not an easy thing.

Given a choice most sikh boy in india, wont like to wear a turban except those who's shops run on religion.

From my experience, my parents have to tell me to take off the turban once home. I don't do it before I go to sleep, I can keep on wearing it for 16 hours, only take 'half' of it off before sleep. My turban size has increased from 5 to 12 to my current 18 metres. Nothing is easy to follow if you don't have your heart into it. Most people will find it difficult to write a thank you card if they don't really feel ike thanking!

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May be thats y one dosent find many untrimmed turban wearing sikh in punjab, if this keeps up soon here wont be any in other states of india.

No one cares about the religion. It is as simple as that.

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Finally question if sikh religion is so great, how many people from other religion have you seen convert to sikhism in last decade.

Who would convert? Those who have a desire for spirituality and find some answers missing! And if you are great religion it doesn't mean you will be 'popular'!

Luckysingh · #18 (**permalink**) 11-Jun-2012, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dakkuSingh

@above :
I don't think ur from india or u may not be aware of the issue plaguing the sikh community here in india.
Sikh is not any easy religion to follow. Wearing a turban and keeping beard for 12 hr a day through out ones life is not an easy thing. These hard paced life and cut throat competition who has time for religion or who cares about religion. Religion is inherit from his parent whether he likes it or not.
Given a choice most sikh boy in india, wont like to wear a turban except those who's shops run on religion. Similarly given a choice most of girl will not marry a turban wearing sikh.
Assuming some one know to you cut his hair.Can you assure me that your opinion about him wont change, you will treat him as he was treated before.And also by rest of the society. He wont be called cut surd or monna.
I suggest you to google for the sex ration of girl to boy in india for sikh religion.It shocking the facts. That too a indian gov statistic of 2005 . Now is 2012.

May be thats y one dosent find many untrimmed turban wearing sikh in punjab, if this keeps up soon here wont be any in other states of india.

My main point is that, this has become a catastrophic issue for sikh religion in india. If this is not addressed by the elders or other people. You may lose few believers or followers of sikh religion remaining.

Finally question if sikh religion is so great, how many people from other religion have you seen convert to sikhism in last decade. I can say that at my age of 27 yrs,I have seen only 1 person convert to truban,sikh way of life. and he too was kicked out of his house by his wife and sons and had to live in gurudwara.
Come out of surreal world, u r not living in an egalitarian society.

I am sorry, I do have to disagree with most of your concerns. I may not be in India, but I am very well travelled and probably been to more corners of India and the rest of the world than the natives there.

I feel you are physically or mentally isolated or stuck in a time warp somewhere. The turban is NOT seen as negative or unnattractive to women as you make out, not at all.
In the very modern western world where I am, there are a number of men not just one's with punjabi blood, that have never had a turban and growing or grown their Khes in order to acquire a turban!!!!
I, myself am one of these men, that now feel more spiritual and this way inclined.

You seem to have had some negative psychological experience that is yielding this negative attitude and anger. If this is the case, it will just be a phase that will pass- We All go through similar encounters at times in our lives, they do passover though.

The people and experiences we encounter are NOT always a global representation, even though we may feel convinced at the time. It's all part of growing up and getting wiser with age.- Enjoy the ride!!!

Waheguru
Lucky Singh