Sushma stands by her remarks on Sikh Guru, flays critics (Deccan Herald)

Sushma stands by her remarks on Sikh Guru, flays critics (Deccan Herald)
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Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:30:20 GMT
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Under attack from pro-Congress Sikh religious leaders here for her comments on the martyrdom of Guru Arjan Dev, senior BJP leader Sushma Swaraj today said she stood by her remarks that a Hindu courtier had little role in the execution of the fifth Guru ordered by emperor Jehangir.
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Dear brother

SSAKAL

I think Respected Sushmaji is right.
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Courtiers have no religion . They are mere servant . Also fear of life and cowardice in face of challenge has been India's weak point till the advent o f SIKHISM .

Today India has many brave sons both Sikhs and non sikhs who love there mother land .

Also what religion can a servant have except his masters wishes.

They carry out the orders of there masters.

It is like a soldier who carries out a order.

This is a totally wrong way to potray history.

Sikh and hindus have always been like brothers .

An odd courtiers does not define the relationship.

Love

Nanak nam chadi kala tere ban sarbat th bhalla
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hps62

Dear Friend


The issue was not regarding which religion Chandu did represent but instead distorting Sikh History to fit Political Speech .
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Anyway As I have read she quoted from a book on sikh history where it has been written that Chandu had little role in whole issue So it like making total out of context thing that people Like Sarna ( DGPC Head ) raise for their personal interest


Jatinder Singh

Gurfateh
if we see in opposite idrection we may find that she may behold Guru as Hindu and Chandu being Hindu not anti to Guru and Islamic king being main reason to oppose Hindu Guru,a sort of hindu v/s Muslim issue and no Sikh Panth in between.Just a comment.

Satsriakaalji Saadh Sangat...
These news had shocked me before i saw it and read it ....well...i fail to understand .something....why are they after a lady who belongs to the Viraat Hindu Samaj ideology..and would want to stop being the servant referred as a hindu...since he failed to be a hindu..he backstabbed the Guru.....The Gurus were fighting against evil and oppression....the musalmaans..who saw a problem in any thing unislamic and wanted to go their way marauding..

The congress or the press when refferring to terrorists will not name the religion....then we are so careful...but if a hindu lady who holds the Guru in great respect...does not agree to that servant being a hindu....all of them pounce on her.
We are ready to lick the *** of a musalmaan..and a christian..we will say all are part of God....and terrorism has nothing to do with religion..but we are such big *******..that we pounce our own people ..when they see a prob in naming the religion of a traitor...
Such references are made by khalistanis to poison the mind of keshdhaaris against their people....i have come across so many sites...when they will readily refer ..'Hindu Rajas of the hills' ....well do u ever understand what it is to be a hindu ???
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HOW can a person who is a traitor to his country and Guru continue to be a hindu....?????

We are so shameless that we dont not see the difference....
there are 10000s of musalmaans attending ..the namaaz for the slain terrorists...and we turn a blind eye...they can honour a person by doing namaz...for what ??? to wish that he get Jaanat for cheating his own people and country ? for raping and arson ???

In our society we do not glorify people who have a nusience...even in punjab the slain terrorists did nto have people coming to their funerals....in such large numbers

We sing secular tones...but we dont have the courage...we are fit for the hell we suffer ....

Guru Maharaj sadbuddhi bakshe....pls dont mind my language ...its my way to expression....

Raaj Karega Khalsa

Gurfateh

BJP guys are also spineless,Tigeress Uma sister has left them therefore.

Reason is that recently when respected Brother Vinay Katiyar and Dr Sahib Singh Verma annouced the price on the head of the terrorsits and killer clould be Hindu ,Muslim or Sikh,then they did not support these greatmen.
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Das can find a caste angle also that Kurmi(Gujar ) and Jaat were not allowed to rise further perhaps.Is not that shamefull that Haji Yakub Kurshi ,when declares reward on the head head on western cartonists for making disrespect to Prophet(PBUH),nothing is done to him.And that has nothing to do with India.

but when Indian are told to get reward to kill imntruder,a case is filed aganst them.Wortst was BJP's not supporting the own leaders.

Satsriakaalji Saadhsangat,

Excellent point ...very right Vijaydeepji.....the bjp has had a lots of spine less people...Umaji did take the step but lets watch what goes further...the good ones will all leave some day...
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Veerji are you aware of some fiasco at Harimandirsaheb?? Simranjit Mann and his guys ..there has been some commotion..does anyone know abt it ??

pls let me know ..i m curious...

Guru Fateh

Dear Friend

I think you are refering to following post regarding fiasco in Amritsar

http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-m...bdee-akal.html


http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/contro...tory-sikh.html
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Thanks

Jatinder Singh

Gurfateh

In Panth there is need that good leaders like Resepected K C Sudershan Ji or say Bhai togadia Ji should take over and throw the crap like Badal or even Mann both are not behaving well but still das do have good respect for Mann.
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Das attenmds meeting of Sangh and finds that thier leaders are far more commited to thier casue(which may be not well but das talsk about thier commitment).Badal did copied from BJP and some false cadres of RSS,the way to make fool of the community in the name of Faith but better was to lerant from high ranking ,comited soliders of Seva Bharti or Vanvasi Kalyan Parishad about self sacrifise as Dadhchi did.

Sikhs are any happy to have motivated cadres in Missionaries,AKJ and DDT but sgpce is still under control of Jatts.

Das hopes that when large chunk of Indians will be Sikh then they will kick thses jatts out.They anyway prevented Dr Ambedkar with lower caste to convert so that thier Majorty is not effected.
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Das is using word jatt is not for racial sence but same term may mean carefree rural guy but on high posts such things may not work.Das's father has gotra solkani,which is sameas Virk in Punjab and das has good family relationms with Jaats of Haryana.But das oppsoe jattism the way he does oppse Brahmanism in panth.In anycase das does not regonansie any race or salnder that.