French 'Religious Symbol' Ban

This ban is ridiculous.

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Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-news/692-french-religious-symbol-ban.html

Am I the only one that feels worthless?
Sikhs in France are in deep trouble, and I can't do anything at all?
I often dreamt of an opportunity to stand up, and fight.

The world is wierd man, we have kids who cut their hair here (U.S.) for girls, and then we have kids in France who would give up education to keep it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=692

Anyone else feel useless?

 
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Starting with http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=97576, there is a (currently) 7 page discussion on the ban, mainly centering on Muslims.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=692

It should be noted that the ban only relates to public schools. If I have understood it correctly, Sikhs may be granted exemption. Probably, few persons of school age will be inititates, so a keski could well be tolerated. Personally, I think that the French have some good reasons for the ban, but I think that the Sikh use of the turban should be allowed.

State your reasons why you think the French's ban is good.

Do not get disheartend dear S|kh, Sikhism has passed many a such tests of times. This would be no exception.

In my views, ban on religious symbols is sheer cowardice... I wonder, how they are going to control terrorism by disallowing religious symbols...? the people, who indulge in acts of cowardice ie. terrorism do not appear in public in religious symbols... look at the images of terrorists in that russian school, such people do it under veils... they have got no religion... rather i think religious symbols should made compulsory so that a person adhering to a particular faith is easily identifiable but that should not entitle him to persecution for just being a adherant of that religion say islam... thats stupity...
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=692
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=692

Anyways banning religious symbols is a sheer act of cowardice or enforced terrorism on the people who have nothing to do with it...

Shame on French people who support for such a act cowardice...


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The French think it is good to separate state from religion.But they have to learn(sooner or later)that a state run by sound religious principles is a healthier government and ensures good governance.This is a case that has to be calmly argued without getting emotional.The French are really very lost people,they have to be taught and convinced in the right light.They desperately need the Light of Guru Nanak Sahib.Presence of Khalsa in France means the French are going to be blessed by Waheguru.Even if they have to learn the hard way.

This ban is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of.

What the hell constitutes a religious symbol?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=692

"Large Christian crucifixes" are banned?...
suppose I pray to fish and i wear an emblem of a fish on my neck...is that going to be banned?

Suppose I worship money...then will cash/money be banned?
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=692

Suppose I worship the football team, then will their logo/hat be banned?

French should stick with their original game plan,

SHUT UP AND SURRENDER.

An Update :

Controversy over turban issue over: French envoy
EXPRESS NEWS SERVICE
Posted online: Friday, September 17, 2004 at 0130 hours IST



NEW DELHI, SEPTEMBER 16: French envoy to India, Domnique Girard, today said the row between the Sikh community and the French government over the ban on students wearing turbans to shools has been resolved.

In his letter to Tarlochan Singh, chairman of the National Commission for Minorities, Girard says majority of the Sikh students had returned to school ‘‘without any difficulty’’. It adds that barring three cases, Sikh students had been offered alternatives to the pagri and they had expressed their satisfaction over it.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=692

The envoy said the government was trying to pursue the ‘‘path of dialogue to settle the cases of the three students who are apprently unhappy with the ban’’. The letter adds: ‘‘Whatever the outcome of this dialogue, you can be assured that those students would be offered solutions to continue their studies within the French education system.”

does anybody know the details abt the alternatives?

I feel that the Sikhs have been caught in the web which was not really created for them but for the muslims and for very evident reasons which is to prevent their dress code to be used by terrorists to bring-in bombs. We have to agree this worry is genuine and I feel that we Sikhs will have to accept it and go about with use of a Keshki. After all the ruling is supposed to be mandated for Public schools only. The turban can still be used anywhere else. Unreasonable as it might look and sound, let's face it is not directed at the Sikhs as was Indra Gandhi's Operation Blue Star.