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| | | | | UP rape victim willing to abide by fatwa UP rape victim willing to abide by fatwa
Monday, 27 June , 2005, 19:27
Muzaffarnagar: A woman, who was allegedly raped by her father-in-law at Charthawal in Muzaffarnagar district of Uttar Pradesh, on Monday said she was ready to abide by the fatwa issued by the Islamic seminary, Darul Uloom Deoband.
Deoband had ruled that she could not be allowed to live with her husband any longer.
"I and my husband are willing to abide by the fatwa if the Darul Uloom Muftis want us to," Imrana said. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-news/4620-up-rape-victim-willing-abide-fatwa.html
Mufti Habibur Rehman of Darul Uloom Deoband said in a fatwa on Sunday that the woman’s living with her husband Noor Ilahi had become untenable as per Islamic law after the alleged rape on June 3.
Reacting to the ruling, Imrana said she had full faith in the Shariyat. Noor Ilahi said he would take steps as per the fatwa.
The rape case made headlines as a local community panchayat passed a verdict that the woman should treat her husband as her son, triggering outrage among women activists.
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03-May-2009, 17:32 PM
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| | | | | | | Re: UP rape victim willing to abide by fatwa That is so sad, that her family must be split apart like that over the fault of the Father in Law. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=4620
"The rape case made headlines as a local community panchayat passed a verdict that the woman should treat her husband as her son, triggering outrage among women activists."
That is sick! 
I am glad I left Islam, it doesn't protect women at all. | | The following member appreciates bebhibebhi Ji for the above message. | | 
03-May-2009, 18:11 PM
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| | | | | Re: UP rape victim willing to abide by fatwa It is really irony of her fate that after such an inhuman act she is the one who is being made the scapegoat. Instead of punishing the dirty man (her father in law) thro their fatwas if they do this than where is their so called compassions about their woman folks. They have treated their woman since their inception as their private herds and nothing else. Thanks God, atleast in Sikhism you can never think of such a hukamnama will ever come from our Takhat Jathedars. This shows complete hipocracy of Devband Moulvis. | | The following member appreciates Hardip Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
03-May-2009, 18:27 PM
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| | | | Re: UP rape victim willing to abide by fatwa Hmmm, this means she is punished twice for no fault of her own? | | The following member appreciates Randip Singh Ji for the above message. | | 
07-May-2009, 00:19 AM
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| | | | | | | Re: UP rape victim willing to abide by fatwa Quote:
Originally Posted by randip singh Hmmm, this means she is punished twice for no fault of her own? | Sharia tends to do that to women, it "puts them in their place" so to speak 
Islam doesn't believe rape could actually be the man's fault, its always the woman's because she is a "temptress", who leads men to desire. | | The following member appreciates bebhibebhi Ji for the above message. | | 
07-May-2009, 00:49 AM
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| | | | | Re: UP rape victim willing to abide by fatwa Quote:
Originally Posted by bebhibebhi Sharia tends to do that to women, it "puts them in their place" so to speak 
Islam doesn't believe rape could actually be the man's fault, its always the woman's because she is a "temptress", who leads men to desire. | When the man is at fault in context of crimes committed against women in Islam? | | The following members appreciate pk70 Ji for the above message. | | 
07-May-2009, 01:03 AM
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| | | | | Re: UP rape victim willing to abide by fatwa One thing I never understand regarding Islam (and I don't mean to sound disrespectful).
In the Sikh religion, as well as with other faiths other than Islam, the focus is on the believer to control their actions so as to not lead to 'sin'.
Example, Sikhs are meant to be in control of the 5 Thieves.
However, in Islam, the focus seems to be on 'physically' controlling situations so as there is no 'sin' etc - i.e. the hijab, segregation between males and females etc.
Rather then instilling teachings that help the believer achieve purity of heart and mind so that they do not aspire to carry out sinful actions, they seem to be taking the easy way out. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=4620
Does anyone else get what I'm trying to say? | | The following members appreciate GillAUS Ji for the above message. | | 
08-May-2009, 23:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pk70 When the man is at fault in context of crimes committed against women in Islam? | Heh... that seems to be the main point of Sharia, the guy is never in the wrong when it comes to crimes and injustices against women, non muslims(esp. Jews, buddhists, sikhs, Hindus... any other religion that is not Islam...), Musilms(Shia vs. Sunni, Shia vs Shia, Sunni vs. Sunni)... | | The following member appreciates bebhibebhi Ji for the above message. | | 
09-May-2009, 00:14 AM
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| | | | | | | Re: UP rape victim willing to abide by fatwa Quote:
Originally Posted by GillAUS One thing I never understand regarding Islam (and I don't mean to sound disrespectful).
In the Sikh religion, as well as with other faiths other than Islam, the focus is on the believer to control their actions so as to not lead to 'sin'.
Example, Sikhs are meant to be in control of the 5 Thieves.
However, in Islam, the focus seems to be on 'physically' controlling situations so as there is no 'sin' etc - i.e. the hijab, segregation between males and females etc.
Rather then instilling teachings that help the believer achieve purity of heart and mind so that they do not aspire to carry out sinful actions, they seem to be taking the easy way out.
Does anyone else get what I'm trying to say? | I do,
Islam is about, in short, "Less thinking more doing"
Like their 5 daily prayers, are movement and repetition of set words (something which kind of put me off it, I like to feel like I'm actually having a communication with God rather than repeating words that felt cold and empty- not that I'm against set prayers, I just like to occasionally like to use my own thoughts, because in my mind I'm talking- no- communicating to God and it would have more effect if it was my own words  )
BTW: I hope I dont sound like a mad woman hating on Islam all the time 
Just had baaaaaad experiences with it,
That and when I post I sound waaaaaaay more angrier and disrespectful but I dont mean the angriness and disrespect, its just my viewpoint from experience. | | The following members appreciate bebhibebhi Ji for the above message. | | 
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