Body of murdered Sikh guru returns to India

Sikh News Reporter · #1 (**permalink**) 04-Jun-2009, 07:30 AM

The body of a Sikh guru who was shot dead at a Vienna temple was flown out of the Austrian capital on Wednesday to be repatriated to India, witnesses said.
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Tejwant Singh · #2 (**permalink**) 04-Jun-2009, 08:19 AM

Both these news clippings are misleading. Both claim these 2 men to be " Sikh Gurus" which is false and untrue. Sikhs only have one Guru which is Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. These 2 do not even have Sikh names.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=25285

Tejwant Singh

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #3 (**permalink**) 04-Jun-2009, 15:08 PM

the trouble is with the word "guru"..its so common..under every stone in India there is a guru...there are Yoga gurus..Health Gurus,,and even Sex Gurus....and we cant blame these media writers...because most of these gurus do look like sikhs..long hair and beards and dastaars...and all..

Aman Singh · #4 (**permalink**) 04-Jun-2009, 18:35 PM

Soon, a time will come when these so called 'Sikh Gurus" will need another Makhan Shah Lobhana to find the True Guru...

Tejwant Singh · #5 (**permalink**) 04-Jun-2009, 23:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh

the trouble is with the word "guru"..its so common..under every stone in India there is a guru...there are Yoga gurus..Health Gurus,,and even Sex Gurus....and we cant blame these media writers...because most of these gurus do look like sikhs..long hair and beards and dastaars...and all..

Gyani ji,

Guru Fateh.

You are prefectly right. But this even gets worse in Ferozepore, my hometown where the Sodhi families who belong to the Prithvi Chand part of the family and call themselves Gurus. Their official names start with Gurus, Kanwars and Ranas. In fact one of the Ranas and I grew up together. He is a big politician now and right hand man of Capt. Amarinder Singh escpecially when he was the CM of Punjab.

Tejwant Singh

dalsingh · #6 (**permalink**) 04-Jun-2009, 23:33 PM

Then you have images like this to 'inform' the western mind.......

Manisha · #7 (**permalink**) 05-Jun-2009, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dalsingh

western mind

Well yeah, because everybody knows Guru means teacher, so everyone uses this only in the form to express 'teacher' - So it's used for everything even relating to stupid things - Not in the same way that Sikhism is formed from Gurus.. I.e. My economics teacher calls himself "The Guru of Economics"

I felt slightly offended because he was saying it in a funny way when it's not really funny to me.. But then again.. That's the "Western mind"..

kds1980 · #8 (**permalink**) 05-Jun-2009, 03:31 AM

The people who killed Ramanand have made him a Martyr in the eye's of common Indians and especially for Dalits.Uttar pradesh Chief minister mayawati Attended his funeral.Before this incident hardly anybody knew his name

Manisha · #9 (**permalink**) 05-Jun-2009, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kds1980

The people who killed Ramanand have made him a Martyr in the eye's of common Indians and especially for Dalits.Uttar pradesh Chief minister mayawati Attended his funeral.Before this incident hardly anybody knew his name

1st of all, where the hell did Dalit come from - why are there so many "names" for Ravidass followers?

And that's true, because of such extreme actions towards the Sant, even my family (parents/uncles/aunties) get obssessed with any news regarding him.. So I wonder if the Sikhs have got any satisfaction from what they did..