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| | | | | | | Re: The first 'word' Of sound GUR FATEH SAT SANGAT,
YES, THIS IS SAHAJ DHUNN (UNSTRUCK SOUND)..IT IS CALLED SHABAD..THE WORD OF WAHEGURUJI.. Dhaavat thamiH-aa satgur mili-ai dasvaa du-aar paa-i-aa. The outgoing, wandering soul, upon meeting the True Guru, opens the Tenth Gate. tithai amrit bhojan sahj Dhun upjai jit sabad jagat thamiH rahaa-i-aa. There, Ambrosial Nectar is food and the celestial music resounds; the world is held spell-bound by the music of the Word. tah anayk vaajay sadaa anad hai sachay rahi-aa samaa-ay. The many strains of the unstruck melody resound there, as one merges in Truth. i-o kahai naanak satgur mili-ai Dhaavat thamiH-aa nij ghar vasi-aa aa-ay. ||4|| Thus says Nanak: by meeting the True Guru, the wandering soul becomes steady, and comes to dwell in the home of its own self. ||4||Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-gurus/15609-the-first-word-of-sound.htmlReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15609 (PAGE-441,Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji)
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| | | | | Re: The first 'word' Of sound Respected Saadh Sangat ji,Guru Ji describes the WORD-panna # 261 sloku ]Awey pRB srnwgqI ikrpw iniD dieAwl ]eyk AKru hir min bsq nwnk hoq inhwl ]1]pauVI ]AKr mih iqRBvn pRiB Dwry ]AKr kir kir byd bIcwry ]AKr swsqR isMimRiq purwnw ]AKr nwd kQn vK´wnw ]AKr mukiq jugiq BY Brmw ]AKr krm ikriq suc Drmw ]idRsitmwn AKr hY jyqw ]nwnk pwrbRhm inrlypw ]54] Quote: | Shalok:O God, I have come to Your Sanctuary, O Merciful Lord, Ocean of compassion.One whose mind is filled with the One Word of the Lord, O Nanak, becomes totally blissful. Pauree:In the Word, God established the three worlds.Created from the Word, the Vedas are contemplated.From the Word, came the Shaastras, Simritees and Puraanas.From the Word, came the sound current of the Naad, speeches and explanations.From the Word, comes the way of liberation from fear and doubt.From the Word, come religious rituals, karma, sacredness and Dharma.In the visible universe, the Word is seen.O Nanak, the Supreme Lord God remains unattached and untouched.source:SikhiToTheMax | Quote: hy pRBU! hy ikrpw dy ^zwny! hy idAwl! AsI qyrI srn Awey hW [ hy nwnk! (AwK) ijnHW dy mn ivc iek AivnwSI pRBU v`sdw rihMdw hY, auhnW dw mn sdw iKiVAw rihMdw hY [1[pauVI:- ieh iqMny Bvn (swrw hI jgq) pRBU ny Awpxw hukm ivc hI rcy hn [ pRBU dy hukm Anuswr hI vyd rcy gey, qy ivcwry gey [ swry SwsqR isimRqIAW qy purwx pRBU dy hukm dw pRgtwv hn [ iehnW purwxW SwsqRW qy isimRqIAW dy kIrqn kQw qy ivAwiKAw BI pRBU dy hukm dw hI zhUr hn [dunIAw dy frW BrmW qoN ^lwsI l`BxI BI pRBU dy hukm dw pRkwS hY [ (mnu`Kw jnm ivc) krnXog krmW dI pCwx krnI Awqmk pivqRqw dy inXmW dI Bwl—ieh BI pRBU dy hukm dw hI idR`S hY [hy nwnk! ijqnw BI ieh id`s irhw sMswr hY, ieh swrw hI pRBU dy hukm dw srgux rUp hY, pr (hukm dw mwlk) pRBU Awp (ies swry pswry dy) pRBwv qoN pry hY [54[ source:GuruGranthDarpan(Bhai Sahib Bhai Sahib Singh Ji) | Hukam, Word, Anhad Naad, Shabad....... Him and only Him humbly asking for everybody's forgiveness | 
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| | | | | | | Re: The first 'word' Of sound The topic and your reply are unrelated.
The matter discussed is if the first word uttered is 'ekong' or'ong' and not the owrd of Sri. Guru Granth sahib ji. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15609
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| | | | | Re: The first 'word' Of sound Quote:
Originally Posted by SAINT AND SOLDIER GUR FATEH SAT SANGAT,
YES, THIS IS SAHAJ DHUNN (UNSTRUCK SOUND)..IT IS CALLED SHABAD..THE WORD OF WAHEGURUJI.. Dhaavat thamiH-aa satgur mili-ai dasvaa du-aar paa-i-aa. The outgoing, wandering soul, upon meeting the True Guru, opens the Tenth Gate. tithai amrit bhojan sahj Dhun upjai jit sabad jagat thamiH rahaa-i-aa. There, Ambrosial Nectar is food and the celestial music resounds; the world is held spell-bound by the music of the Word. tah anayk vaajay sadaa anad hai sachay rahi-aa samaa-ay. The many strains of the unstruck melody resound there, as one merges in Truth. i-o kahai naanak satgur mili-ai Dhaavat thamiH-aa nij ghar vasi-aa aa-ay. ||4|| Thus says Nanak: by meeting the True Guru, the wandering soul becomes steady, and comes to dwell in the home of its own self. ||4|| (PAGE-441,Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji) | Word, Shabad, Anhad Naad, Akhkhar, ..........................all is Him and only Him... are felt and heard by His own Grace only, let us pray for it........... idRsit AwvY sBu eykMkwru ] Bojnu nwmu inrMjn swru ] prm hMsu scu joiq Apwr ] jh dyKau qh eykMkwru ] nwnw ibiD kIno ibsQwru ] pRBu AibnwsI eykMkwru ] EAMkwr Awid mY jwnw ] iliK Aru mytY qwih n mwnw ] EAMkwr lKY jau koeI ] soeI liK mytxw n hoeI ] Anhd bwxI pweIAY qh haumY hoie ibnwsu ] sqguru syvy Awpxw hau sd kurbwxY qwsu ] KiV drgh pYnweIAY muiK hir nwm invwsu ] ijnI suix kY mMinAw iqnw inj Gir vwsu ] gurmqI swlwih scu hir pwieAw guxqwsu ] sbid rqy sy inrmly hau sd bilhwrY jwsu ] ihrdY ijn kY hir vsY iqqu Git hY prgwsu ]1] mn myry hir hir inrmlu iDAwie ] Duir msqik ijn kau iliKAw sy gurmuiK rhy ilv lwie ]1] rhwau ] hir sMqhu dyKhu ndir kir inkit vsY BrpUir ] gurmiq ijnI pCwixAw sy dyKih sdw hdUir ] ijn gux iqn sd min vsY AauguxvMiqAw dUir ] mnmuK gux qY bwhry ibnu nwvY mrdy JUir ]2] ijn sbid gurU suix mMinAw iqn min iDAwieAw hir soie ] Anidnu BgqI riqAw mnu qnu inrmlu hoie ] kUVw rMgu ksuMB kw ibnis jwie duKu roie ] ijsu AMdir nwm pRgwsu hY Ehu sdw sdw iQru hoie ]3] iehu jnmu pdwrQu pwie kY hir nwmu n cyqY ilv lwie ] pig iKisAY rhxw nhI AwgY Tauru n pwie ] Eh vylw hiQ n AwveI AMiq gieAw pCuqwie ] ijsu ndir kry so aubrY hir syqI ilv lwie ]4] dyKw dyKI sB kry mnmuiK bUJ n pwie ] ijn gurmuiK ihrdw suDu hY syv peI iqn Qwie ] hir gux gwvih hir inq pVih hir gux gwie smwie ] nwnk iqn kI bwxI sdw scu hY ij nwim rhy ilv lwie ] EAMkwr Awkwr kr eyk kvwau pswau pswrw] pMc q`q prvwn kr Gt Gt AMdr iqRBvn swrw] kwdr ikny n liKAw kudrq swj kIAw Avqwrw] iekdUM kudrq l`K kr l`K ibAMq AsMK Apwrw] rom rom ivc riKEn kr bRhmMf kroV Sumwrw] ieks ieks bRhmMf ivc ds ds kr AOqwr auqwrw] kyqy byd ibAws kr keI kqyb mhMmd Xwrw] kudrq iek eyqw pwswrw ] humbly asking for everybody's forgiveness | 
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| | | | | | | EK ONG KAR is represented here in the ancient Gurmuki language. Ek Ong Kar means “There is one God that created all of creation”. Historically these were the first three words spoken by Guru Nanak, a saintly man of universal consciousness, after he came out of a state of Samadhi (one-ness with the universe and creation) for three days. His words became the Japji and Ek Ong Kar makes up the first line of this sacred text. Guru Nanak delivered to the world universal teachings that are available to anyone regardless of race, creed, religion, cast, or social status. Believe In Peace - big sale on our inspiring, affordable apparel
[There is a small write up at the above site. WE are on look out for such kind of origin.] On “OM” Of all the sacred sounds on this planet, the one that is most often chanted is the “OM”. Undoubtedly, at any given moment, there is someone, somewhere chanting this sacred mantra. The “OM ” is considered one of the oldest vocal sounds in existence—many speculate that it has been chanted for untold thousands of years. It is considered to be the original, primordial sound—the mantra of creation. OM is a mantra from the Hindu tradition. OM is a Sanskrit word, which is said to be the original primordial creative sound from which the universe and all of creation first manifested. While pronounced “OM”, certain Sanskrit scholars state that it is written as “AUM”. Many consider the two words to be interchangeable because of this. OM is said to be the sound that contains all sounds--it is the totality of all other sounds. Swami Sivananda Radha says, “The cosmic sound AUM, or its condensed form, OM, is the origin of all other sound. OM is everything. It is the name of God.” OM is a multi-dimensional sound, and as such, may be understood a number of different ways. One understanding is that OM (or it’s written form “AUM”) represents attributes of the major trinity of Hindu gods; Brahman, Vishnu and Shiva. The sounding of the “A” represents the energy of Brahman, the creator and the creational process. The middle portion of the sound, the “U” represents the energy of Vishnu, the preserver and relates to the maintenance and preservation of what has been created. The final “M” represents the energy of Shiva, the transformer and relates to the vital transformational energy to shift and change that which has been created and preserved. Another understanding of the OM (or “AUM”) is that the “A” represents the physical plane, the “U” the “mental and astral planes” and the “M, all that is beyond the reach of the intellect. “AUM” or OM is the initial syllable, which begins almost all mantras. Thus OM represents the Infinite, the One Mind, the all embracing consciousness—that which is the very essence of existence. In the Tibetan Buddhist tradition, the OM (“AUM”) represents different aspects of the trinity of the Body, Speech and Mind of the Buddha, or an enlightened being. The “A” represents the Body, the “U” represents Speech, and the “M” represents the Mind. Sounding the AUM in this manner puts one in resonance with these qualities of consciousness. The OM is a Bija (or “seed”) mantra and may be utilized to resonate the third eye. However, it may also be chanted as a 3 syllable word “AUM” (and pronounced as “AH – OH - MMM”) to resonate the heart, the throat and the crown chakras. In fact, the OM can, through our intent, become a multi-purpose mantra with capabilities of resonating and aligning all the chakras—of cleansing imbalanced energies and purifying self. Sung with sincerity and devotion, vocalization of the OM can put the chanter in touch with the source of all creation, providing a bridge between the spiritual and physical dimensions and opening the way for inspirational contact with higher realms and beings. Many people ask if there is indeed a correct pronunciation for the OM. Is it “OM” or “AUM” or something else? In reality, there does not seem to be a correct pronunciation. Depending upon the country, language and dialect, the OM can be pronounced “AUM, UM, UNG, ANG, ONG” and so on. Yet, the resonance and effects of this mantra seem to be very similar despite varied differences in pronunciation. Much depends upon the intention of the person creating the sound—where do they wish the “OM” to resonate—which chakra and for what purpose. . OM as a sound symbolizes the supreme source. To many, the sound of OM is synonymous with the energy of peace. OM may be found as the root of many sacred words of different languages including our western “Amen” and the Hebrew “Shalom”, which has many meanings including “peace”. The OM initiates peace and tranquility when it is listened to, and particularly when it is chanted. Healing Sounds - Planetary Healing Sounds I am sure that there would have been some study conducted by Sikhs intellengesia. If anyone has some informatiuon that may be shared. As the matter shall be Of contemporary interest I am posting it for the benefit Of the members. The Sikh Mantras also appear in the article. However, the sole idea is to find out the first word uttered by HIm while creating the entire creation. Mantras On this page I have collected together Mantras used for chanting and meditation, from various traditions. Japa Yoga The following techniques are types of Japa Yoga, or repetition. A string of beads (or Mala, typically numbering 108 beads), is often used to assist counting repetitions. Vaikhari - loud repetition, eg Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare. Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. Upamshu - repetition, hummed or whispered. Manasika - repetition, repeated mentally. Likhita - written in large letters, and repeated mentally (eg Om Nama Shivaya). Ajapa - circulation of pranic energy (as in Kriya Yoga). Mantra meditation Focusing the mind on external or internal sound, chanting externally in internally. May be a single sound (such as Om), word, or phrase (Om mane padme hum, Om Siva Namaya). Gregorian chant is a form of Mantra meditation. CW Leadbeater "The Master and The Path" describes 5 main types of Mantras: - Those that work simply by faith (analagous to applying a Dock leaf to a nettle sting)
- Those that work by association (eg the National Anthem)
- Those that work by agreement or covenant (eg the Christian "This Is My Body", which evokes Angelic assistance)
- Those that work by their meaning - repetition gives power to the words impressing upon the mind and mental body. Blessings given by a Priest fall into this category.
- Those that work by their sound (without meaning, eg Om, the powerful seed mantras)
These mantras were sourced from Joshua David Stone "The Complete Ascension Manual" chapter 24.Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15609 Jewish Tradition Elohim (All that God Is - God in the aspect of the Divine Mother) Yod Hay Vod Hay (God in the aspect of the Divine Father) Adonai (Earth aspect of God) Eh Hay Eh, or Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh (I Am that I Am) YHWH El Shaddai (God Almighty) Ha Sham (the name) Shekinah (Holy Spirit) El Eliyon (The Most High God) Sh'Mah Yisrael Adonai Elohainu Adonai Chad (Hear, oh Israel! The Lord our God, the Lord is One!) Barukh Ata Adonai (Blessed is the Lord) Qadosh, Qadosh, Qadosh, Adonai Tzeba'oth (Holy, Holy, Holy is the lord God of Hosts) Eli Eli (My God, My God) Ruach Elohim (Spirit of the Godhead) Ribono Shel Olam (Lord of the Universe) Shekinah Ruach Ha Quodesh (Divine Presence of the Holdy Spirit) Ain Sof ur (Limitless Light of the Absolute) Layoo-esh Shekinah (Pillar of Light of the Holy Spirit) Ehyeh Metatron (I Am Metatron) Yahweh Elohim (Divine Lords of Light and Learning) Yeshua Michael (Jesus and Archangel Michael) Shaddai El Chai (the Almighty Living God) Adonai H'artez (Lord of the Earth) Moshe Yeshua Eliahu (Moses, Jesus and Elijah) Shalom (Peace) Hyos Ha Koidesh (Highest Servants of hte Ancient of Days) Hindu Mantras Aum or Om Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva So Ham or Ham Sa or Haung Sau (I Am He) The Gayatri Mantra - Bhur bhuvah svah, Tat-savitur varenyam, Bhargo devasya dhimahi, Dhiyo yo na pracodayat (Om Earth, atmosphere, heavens, We meditate on the sacred light of that effulgent source which should direct our thoughts). Sai Baba or Sai Ram or Om Sri Sai Ram Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna, Krishna, Hare, Hare, Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama, Rama, Hare, Hare (Hare Krishna chant). Om Siva Namaya (I bow to Siva) Om Sri Dattatreya Namaha Om Shanti (Peace) Om Tat Sat (Thou art the Inexpressible Absolute Reality) Hari Om Tat Sat (Om, the Divine Absolute Reality) Hari Om (Healing mantra) Om Sri Rama Jaya Rama Jaya Jaya Rama (Victory for the Spiritual Self) Yesu Christu (Jesus Christ in Hindi) Rama Krishna Tat Twam Asi (that and This of One) Lam, Vam, Ram, Yam, Ham, Om/Aum (1st through 6th chakra) Sat Nam (mantra of Sikhs and Guru Nanak) Eck Ong Kar Sat Nam Siri Wha Guru (The Supreme is One, His Names are Many) Sivo Ham (I Am Shiva) Aham Brahmasmi (I Am Brahman or I Am God) Om Ram Ramaya Namaha (O Lord Ram, I Bow Down To You) Islamic Mantras Allahu Akbar (God is Great) Bismillah Al-Rahman, Al-Rahim (In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful) Ya-Rahman (God, the Beneficent) Ya-Salaam (The Source of Peace) Ya-Mutakabir (God, the Majestic) Y-Ghaffar (God, the Forgiver) Ya-Fattah (God, the Opener) Ya-Hafiz (God, the Preserver) Ya-Sabur (God, the Patient) Western Mantras I Am that I Am I Am God I Am I Will I Love Be Still and Know I Am God Areeeooommm (Edgar Cayce's Mantra of Universal Mind) Egyptian Mantras Nuk-Pu-Nuk (I Am He I Am) Au-U Ur-Se-Ur Au-U (I Am the Great One, Son of the Great One, I Am) Ra (Egyptian Sun God) Ra-Neter-Atef-Nefer (The Divine God, Ra is Gracious) Nefer-Neter-Wed-Neh (The Perfect God Grants Life) Osiris Isis Erta-Na-Hekau-Apen-Ast (May I be given the words of power of Isis) Heru-Udjat (Eye of Horus) Christian Mantras Jesus Christ God, Christ, Holy Spirit The Lord's prayer - Our Father, Who art in heaven, Hallowed by Thy name. Thy kingdom come, Thy Will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For Thine is the kingdom and the Power and the Glory, for ever. Amen. Ave Maria (Hail Mary) Hail Mary, Full of Grace! The Lord is with Thee. Blessed are Thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Word Mantras Peace, Joy, Love, Equilibrium, Personal Power, Forgiveness, Humility, Humbleness, Even-Mindedness, Balance, Centredness, Bliss, Compassion, Service, Good Will, Altruism, Loving Kindness, Oneness Tibetan Foundation Chakra Mantras O Shu (shuck) Ya Wa (yawn) He Hu (hue) I Buddhist Mantras Om Mane Padme Hung Om - salutations to The Jewel of Consciousness (the mind) which has reached the heart's lotus Om Ah Hum Soha - basis of many tantric mantras. OM, AH, HUM represents the three bodies of Buddha. Where OM, is the universe, the universal, the all-encompassing, the uncreated, the unchanging. The "mind" of the Universe. The original nature of Buddha. Where is AH, is the Truth embodied, the Word and "speech" of the Universe or Dharma. HUM is the fruition, and refers to physical manifestations i.e. the "body" of the Universe or Sangha. Soha - amen, so let it be. Padme Siddhi Hum (Come to me, O Lotus Power) Buddha, or Bud-ho (used in same way as So Ham, Haung Sau breath mantras) Quan Yin, Avalokitesvara, Chenrazee Sanskrit seed sounds are also used commonly. Here is where they come from. Om (or Aum) is made up of the sounds "ah", "oh" and "mh" (I am avoiding sanskrit alphabet here as most web browsers don't have the necessary font to display it!). It is said that that the wavelength (or maybe half-wavelength) of Om is 7.23 cm, the average length across the palm - this would put the frequency at about 4.2 GHz. Microwave ovens work at around 2.45 GHz, as this is an ideal frequency for heating water (which is how microwave ovens work), water comprising 80% of the human body. Some frequencies in the lower GigaHertz region are absorbed by atmospheric precipitation (causes communication difficulties). The first spoken word is Aham. From Om and Aham arise the basic sanskrit vowels: The 5 basic vowels of the 9 vowel sounds have ah breathed through them which gives rise to 5 glide sounds - the purpose of highlighting this here is to relate it to the first 5 chakras. Body Soul Spirit Karma Bhakti Jnana Raja vam mantralamramyamhamOmOmbuzzing soundfluteharpbellrushing waterroarroarearth elementwaterfireairethersentientemotionalwillthinkingequipoisewaking statedreamingsleepingassociationssubconsciousconscioussuperconsciousBase ChakraPelvicNavelHeartThroatBrowCrown The mantra sounds are shown near the top: vam, lam, ram, yam, ham, and Om. Hence a yoga student, depending on their affinity to earth, fire, air, water, etc., would be given a seed mantra accordingly. There are three realms: Body, Soul and Spirit (physical, astral and causal) There are four states: Thinking, Sleeping, Dreaming and Sensing. These 3 x 4 combine to form the 12 signs of the zodiac (the frame of the Universe). The four states are sometimes described in terms of personality types (cf with Myers-Briggs covered elsewhere): Analytical Associating Thinking Driver Sleeping Will Amiable Dreaming Feeling Leader Waking Sensing The four basic yoga paths of Karma, Bhakti, Jnana and Raja yoga are associated with the 4 lower chakras. Also shown are the corresponding sanskrit sounds, and the mantras given to assist with meditation at these centres. The astral sounds can sometimes be heard in deep meditation as buzzing, flute, etc., and the chakras may also be seen as wheels of fire. Internal sounds (see also the table above): 1st chakra Buzzing, like a bumble-bee 2nd chakra Flute 3rd chakra Harp 4th chakra Bell (or gong) 5th chakra Rushing waters 6th chakra Roar, all sounds together (Om) References: Dancing Bear meditationReference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15609 Kriya Yoga, by Paramahansa Hariharananda, shows the layout of the 50 seed sounds in the human body, and their relationship to the chakras. Yoga Paths | 
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Originally Posted by roopk The topic and your reply are unrelated. The matter discussed is if the first word uttered is 'ekong' or'ong' and not the owrd of Sri. Guru Granth sahib ji.
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I am quite surprised at your comment to Surinder kaur bhenji. Bhenji's Gurbani quotes and comments are 100% relevant.
We should all try and read Gurbani. After that try and understand what we have read. Finally practice what we have read in our daily life. "isKI isiKAw gur vIcwir Sikhi is learning by Contemplating the Gur-Shabad
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji 465 " Ek ongkar means One and Only One Akal Purakh(God). No one can fully describe God and many have tried and will continue trying as mentioned in Jap ji Sahib.
In reference to your comment:
To "find/make connection with/to realise" the One and Only One Akal Purakh, one must look towards Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji for help and guidance. "smJY sUJY piV piV bUJY AMiq inrMqir swcw If one understands, realizes and comprehends what he reads and studies, in the end he will realize that the True God dwells deep Within his nucleus
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji 930
" [There is only ONE God
and
ALL is in God
and
God is in ALL] In very simple terms you can say that Ek Ongkar is the "Word/Gur ka Bachan/Shabad Guru" found(realised) via Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and ONLY with Guru's Kirpa. eyko sbdu eyko pRBu vrqY sB eyksu qy auqpiq clY
Eko Shabad eko prabh vartai sabh ekas te utpat chaalai
The One Shabad, the Word of the One God, is prevailing everywhere. All the creation came from That One
Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji 1334
Its very relavant to turn to Gurbani to realise God. p/s: Please please please..instead of constant criticism of posters such as "Surinder kaur Cheema" benji, we should be making an effort to learn from them.
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| | | | | | | Re: The first 'Word' of Sound Thank you for your nice post. I shall always take care Of your advice about Surinder ji.The matter being discussed is about the 'first word' that was utteed by the Lord , the Almighty and not the Word /Gurbani/Akhar/Naam or the nitnem. However, If she posts something I shall not comment anything as per your kind and valuable advice. Thanks for reminding me. | 
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| | | | | Re: The first 'Word' of Sound mwJ mhlw 3 ] AMimRq nwmu mMin vswey ] haumY myrw sBu duKu gvwey ] AMimRq bwxI sdw slwhy AMimRiq AMimRqu pwvixAw ]1] hau vwrI jIau vwrI AMimRq bwxI mMin vswvixAw ] AMimRq bwxI mMin vswey AMimRqu nwmu iDAwvixAw ]1] rhwau ] AMimRqu bolY sdw muiK vYxI ] AMimRqu vyKY prKY sdw nYxI ] AMimRq kQw khY sdw idnu rwqI Avrw AwiK sunwvixAw ]2] AMimRq rMig rqw ilv lwey ] AMimRqu gur prswdI pwey ] AMimRqu rsnw bolY idnu rwqI min qin AMimRqu pIAwvixAw ]3] so ikCu krY ju iciq n hoeI ] iqs dw hukmu myit n skY koeI ] hukmy vrqY AMimRq bwxI hukmy AMimRqu pIAwvixAw ]4] Ajb kMm krqy hir kyry ] iehu mnu BUlw jWdw Pyry ] AMimRq bwxI isau icqu lwey AMimRq sbid vjwvixAw ]5] Koty Kry quDu Awip aupwey ] quDu Awpy prKy lok sbwey ] Kry priK KjwnY pwieih Koty Brim BulwvixAw ]6] ikau kir vyKw ikau swlwhI ]Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=15609 gur prswdI sbid slwhI ] qyry Bwxy ivic AMimRqu vsY qUM BwxY AMimRqu pIAwvixAw ]7] AMimRq sbdu AMimRq hir bwxI ] siqguir syivAY irdY smwxI ] nwnk AMimRq nwmu sdw suKdwqw pI AMimRqu sB BuK lih jwvixAw ]8]15]16]4] | 
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