Is Guru Granth Sahib Revealed By God? - Responding to Challenges to Sikhi

The Quran and the Bible, if im not misinformed, were not written by either Jesus Christ or Mohammed. If im not misinformed again isnt The guru Granth Sahib the only one "written" by those who started and preached the faith? If anything the sikh's final guru is obviously the only religion with a pure scripture that has not fallen to filthying from later leaders. Not saying anything about the Dasam Granth though...
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Thanks for your response... but my questions wasn't asked for you to tell me what i should or shouldn't know... but no problem.. some people like going out of their ways. Thanks... a lot.

Dear lionchild ji,
Gurfateh.

Such comments as yours...are a sure fire way to get a lot of.."fellow sikhs" riled up..and up in arms..However I am NOT one of those...

1. in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..Gurbani by Bhagat kabir Ji declares...OH BRAHMIN...If you are "so special..and all that you claim to be...WHY didnt YOU enter this World by any OTHER way than ALL of us. Gurbani is FOR ALL...The SIKH GURUS never claimed to be anything they were NOT...and this GURBANI applies equally to them...Beginning with Guru nanak ji..all ten Gurus Sahibaans came to this world the SAME way all of us do..and LEFT it the same way we all do. This is in no way implies that we are all "equal" to them in any way...it just means they followed HUKM to the Letter...Hukmeh andar SABH KO..HUKME Bahr na KOI ( NO ONE is above HUKM..including them...)

2. When Guru nanak ji travelled all the Way to MECCA..to impart the valuable divine message that ALLAH is NOT CONFINED to one Place. In Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..Gurbani by bhagat ji asks..IF Allah is taking care of the WEST..and Hindu God is taking care of the EAST..WHO is taking care of NORTH and SOUTH ?? ( Leave aside the Billions of UNIVERSES and Galaxies...et al for the moment !!)
NOW SIKHS have "CONFINED" WAHEGURU..to "SACH KHAND"...Sri Harmandar sahib Amritsar..et al ....and to the Pages of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as well..IF "Waheguru " is confined to Sach khand..who is taking care of...all over again...??? IF GURBANI "condemsn" having and going to "TEERATHS"..why have we Sikhs now begun to treat Gurdwars as TEERATHS to wash our sins...when Sikhism has NO concept of SINS to be washed by EXTERNAL BATHING..not a single tuk in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji instructs us to go to any teerath to bathe and wash our "sins"..yet we do..year and year out...Naavan Challeh teertheen !!! and we "dsicover" New Teeraths to increase travel agent buisness..lates discovery of late 2oth centurty..copy cat teerath of Hemkunt...

3. When Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji teaches us that the Human body...is of "nil value" after death..we take great pains to immerse its "holy ashes" in Keeratpur Sahib...hoping that this "Holy Place" will grant our loved one "Express Service"..in the Journey in the after world..so we have created a copy cat of Hardwaar..KiratPur..a "teerath" that the DEAD are forced to Visit !!

4. No other religion in the world has "Charrawa"..OFFERINGS..except Hinduism and Sikhism. Hindus "worship" idols...so its Ok for them to OFFER their IDOLS worldly "goods" as OFFERINGS...clothes to wear, food to eat, gold jewellery to wear..lip stick, sindhoors, perfumes, etc etc etc ( disregard for the moment that stone idols cant use any of those offerings..BUT the "Managers" (Brahmins) certainly CAN and do use them to full benefit)..WE SIKHS have begun to "offerings" to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji too....Barfis and ladoos, jalebis and pakorras..rumallahs after rumallahs ( when entire buildings are full to the brim with unused rumallahs)..GOLD for Palkis, Domes, Marble for Gurdwaras..we offer expensive Cars for "Guru jis Sewaks".. Sants babas, jathedars..( read MANAGERS as in Brahmins for Hindus)..IF any footballer/singer/actor/entertainer..etc of any repute has to have a MANAGER...GOD certainly "needs" these MANAGERS to Market Him !!( disregard for a moment what GOD actually wants or needs..these Managers NEED all those offerings)

5. So to "summarise"..YES you are 110% RIGHT thta it is IMPOSSIBLE to write ALL about GOD in 1430 pages of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji..GURBANI tells us that "e ven IF all the OCEANS became INK..and ALL the Forests became paper...it cant be done..Even IF every single thing with a tongue in the moth had 20 billion additional tongues...God cant be "fully described"..in addition to the Bhagats and the ten Gurus in human form..the "paper medium" was the best thing to spread Gurbani Message..and GURU JI took Full Advantage of thsi MEDIUM to spread the Message.....until NOW...now it is the Electronic Media..computers, internet, cds, dvds micro drives..et al..NOW the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji divine Message..FLOATS 24/7 over the World's INTERNET ELECTRONIC AIRWAYS/Satellite waves..et al....BUT some of the same SIKHS are having ahard time leaving the concept of the "MEDIUM of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji prepared by guru arjun Ji/Guru Gobind Singh Ji"...behind. They cant realise that in 1708 THAT MEDIUM was the BEST..Now better mediums are abound....and the DIVINE MESSAGE cannot be "locked up" in one outdated medium/Language/Script...it is time to Release it into the Air !!! for everyone to benefiot from its cool soothign RAINFALL...as Manna from Heaven..

I hope i have not bored you..with the length of my ramblings..if so please do forgive an old man....The Night is LONG..and I have many Promises to Keep...

Gyani jarnail Singh

Thnaks, this is a very good reply, my post was not to get sikhs "riled up" but I was merely PHILOSOPHIZING on the matter, of course, people will take it the wrong way.

Anyways, it was meant to get people to think deeper on the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee is the only religious scripture written by its prophets, i.e. the Guru’s themselves. No other religion can claim this. The Quran was written not by a prophet, but 30 years after Hazrat Muhammad passed away. Hazrat Muhammad himself was illiterate, so did not write anything. But the Kaa’ba and the Hajj is also a form of big idol worship. The Bible was written by the gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, none of them contemporaries of Jesus and written at least 60 years after Jesus.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-gurus/14854-guru-granth-sahib-revealed-god-responding.html

Max Arthur Macauliffe, an English writer, delivered a speech at Akaal Bunga, Amritsar in 1899:
"There is another point to the merit of the Sikh religion that the founders of other religions in this world never wrote even one line with their own hands. You might have heard that there was a very famous Greek philosopher called Pythagoras who had many followers, but he never left behind anything written by him from which we could have known about the principles of his sect. After him came the second Greek philosopher named Socrates who was born in 500 B.C. He became a very famous religious leader who claimed that he was receiving Divine instructions from God within himself, which persuaded him to do good and prohibited from doing any evil deeds. But he too never left anything behind written by him, which could have shed light on his philosophy and its principles. Whatever we know about him, has only come through the writings of his follower, Plato. Besides there came Mahatma Buddh in India and he never wrote anything with his hands. Then came Christ who did not write anything himself either. His teachings are only known through the Bible, which was written by others. Then came Muhammad who was illiterate who also did not write down anything. However the Sikh Gurus acted quite opposite to all these religious leaders that they themselves dictated their message of Truth and compiled Guru Granth Sahib. In this respect the Sikh religion is far ahead than others."

In JapJi Sajib it is clearly stated that Waheguru resides in Sachkhand but His light is everywhere. Just like the sun is at one place but its light is spread all over. The creation has its limits and one day it will be destroyed. Does this mean that God will also die? He has always existed even before the creation and will continue to exist after the destruction of the creation. Sachkhand is the place of truth where Waheguru (pure truth) resides.

Christians believe that the Bible was given in the following manner:

2 Timothy 3:16 16All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14854
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14854


2 Peter 1:20 20Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. 21For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

Shearwater ji

This thread is Sikh-gurus. Your post is more appropriate for Interfaith Dialogs. Please add something of relevance to the thread or the post will be deleted. Thank you.

This is such a foolish thing to say. For starters Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the eternal Guru. All of Gods knowledge is attained in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. The reason to this is because the Shabad Guru; Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji goes on forever. I can repeat Ik Onkar once then again then again and still i won't get the whole message. I can repeat Waheguru hundreds millions of times and still I won't get the whole message. The shabad Guru goes on forever and its attained as Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is 1430 angs of the eternal Shabad Guru.