
28-Jan-2009, 23:11 PM
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| | | | | Re: Q & A: If All Paths Are Equal Then Why Was Sikhi Made? Responding to Challenges t Quote:
Originally Posted by Manvir Singh Khalsa I agree with Anoop jee's comment that in the eyes of God we are all equal.
Sikhism is the most tolerant and loving religion, which gives respect to everyone regardless of gender, ethnicity or beliefs. Unlike other religions Sikhism does not believe that non-believers go to Hell or are eternally dammed. This is pure injustice and there is no surprise why religions have led to massacres, crusades, jihads, terrorism and murder in the Name of God. Rather a Sikh prays at least twice daily for "Sarbat Da Bhallaa", meaning the good and prosperity of all Humanity regardless of religion, belief or faith.
The Sikh motto is: “See God in all, or not all.” If you cant appreciate, love and live with God’s creation and God’s created people then how does one expect the Grace of God?
Through Guru Nanak, and Guru Nanak alone, Sikhs believe one can merge into God in life through living a complete and perfect spiritually balanced way of life immersed in the loving devotion to God and His Creation. The religion and its beliefs are unique. The concept of equality exemplified by Sikhism is not the result of a debate concerning which paths are more (or less) efficient and ultimately productive; equality is not based upon such rational discussions or language games. The Sikhism concept of equality is an inward and outward acceptance of all and seeing everyone as a soul rather than religious labels, which results directly from the practice of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee's (the Sikh’s Sacred Scripture) teachings. "Whatever religion you are, belong to it, follow it, have faith in god!"
I agree that everyone should have faith in God. However, can you please support the claim that whatever religion you are, belong to it and follow it?
First thing which could come in the mind of someone is - What's the point of Sikhi and the Path of Gurmat if all Guru Nanak Sahib jee wanted us to do was become a good Muslim who follows Quran and Sharia, good Christian who follows Church and Bible etc? Therefore, there is nothing unique or special to Gurmat and Gurmat is equal to all other Paths and ways?
f this were true - then the worrying thing is that we are saying that Guru Sahib is saying if you are Christian - go drink wine, slaughter animals and kill them for your hunger, woman is responsible for sin, as per Paul's writings that woman should be under authority of father, then husband then if husband dies son, there is no emphasis on Naam or Naam Japnaa because "believing" in the Saviour alone is fine.
In terms of Judaism - if it were true that " If you are a ***, obey Jewish tenets and become a good ***. " Then the worrying thing is that as Sikhs we are agreeing to the following things that its okay curse women and say " Thank God that I am not born as a Woman" (which is tenet practiced by Rabbis (Jewish Priests) every morning), that women are impure and therefore not allowed to teach the Tohra (Jewish Scripture) or allowed to lead prayer or even by in the same hall as a man when praying, we are saying that its right for people to mutilate their God given body and practice circumcision?
Vaheguru.
Guru Nanak Sahib jee DID tell the Muslim to become a True Muslim and a Pandit (Scholar) to become a True Pandit (this in Gurbaani). However, Guru Nanak Sahib jee REDEFINED what a TRUE Muslim is, what a TRUE Pandit is, what a TRUE Yogi is, what a TRUE Sidhi is etc. For the Guru - a true Yogi, true Muslim, true Pandit, true ascetic, true Brahman is a GURMUKH - one lives the teachings Guru Nanak Sahib jee and follows the religion of GURMAT NAAM. For example Guru Nanak Sahib jee tells the Muslim to read Namaaz (prayers) however Guru Sahib REDEFINES Namaaz and tells the Muslim what the TRUE Namaaz is ( i.e. the life of a Gurmukh) - you can read the shabad here: SikhiToTheMAX - Enabling Gurmat Knowledge
Bhul Chuk Maaf,
Daas,
Manvir Singh | Khalsa ji thank you for this beautiful insight. 
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| | | | | Re: If All Paths Are Equal Then Why Was Sikhi Made? Guru Nanak Sahib jee DID tell the Muslim to become a True Muslim and a Pandit (Scholar) to become a True Pandit (this in Gurbaani). However, Guru Nanak Sahib jee REDEFINED what a TRUE Muslim is, what a TRUE Pandit is, what a TRUE Yogi is, what a TRUE Sidhi is etc. For the Guru - a true Yogi, true Muslim, true Pandit, true ascetic, true Brahman is a Gurmukh - one lives the teachings Guru Nanak Sahib jee and follows the religion of GURMAT NAAM. For example Guru Nanak Sahib jee tells the Muslim to read Namaaz (prayers) however Guru Sahib REDEFINES Namaaz and tells the Muslim what the TRUE Namaaz is ( i.e. the life of a Gurmukh) - you can read the shabad here: Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sikh-gurus/14853-if-all-paths-equal-then-why.html SikhiToTheMAX - Enabling Gurmat Knowledge
Bhul Chuk Maaf,
Daas,
Manvir Singh Manvir Singh ji A good look at Sikhism; however, you are also missing what Guru ji was up to in context of other religions. No religion or sect bothered Guru Nanak as long it was a way out to unite with the Lord; however, wherever he found hypocrisy and exploitation of the people in the name of a religion or a sect, he criticized that in forceful words, none was spared in this case. What he said in context of exploitation of other religions and sects is very well applicable to Sikhism too. As long as Sikh remains on a path to be hopeful of Lord’s grace to be united with the Lord while battling within to over come the negative forces and live in His love, he/she remains a Sikh otherwise a label of any religion is not really attractive in Guru ji’s views. He goes further in explaining the purpose of the life in very crystal clear words that is to unite with our origin- the Lord. If that thing is missing, there is no religion but shops of exploitations of the souls with a badge of power to grind their own Axe . | 
29-Jan-2009, 00:11 AM
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| | | | | Re: If All Paths Are Equal Then Why Was Sikhi Made? Quote:
Originally Posted by pk70 Guru Nanak Sahib jee DID tell the Muslim to become a True Muslim and a Pandit (Scholar) to become a True Pandit (this in Gurbaani). However, Guru Nanak Sahib jee REDEFINED what a TRUE Muslim is, what a TRUE Pandit is, what a TRUE Yogi is, what a TRUE Sidhi is etc. For the Guru - a true Yogi, true Muslim, true Pandit, true ascetic, true Brahman is a Gurmukh - one lives the teachings Guru Nanak Sahib jee and follows the religion of GURMAT NAAM. For example Guru Nanak Sahib jee tells the Muslim to read Namaaz (prayers) however Guru Sahib REDEFINES Namaaz and tells the Muslim what the TRUE Namaaz is ( i.e. the life of a Gurmukh) - you can read the shabad here: SikhiToTheMAX - Enabling Gurmat Knowledge
Bhul Chuk Maaf,
Daas,
Manvir Singh Manvir Singh ji A good look at Sikhism; however, you are also missing what Guru ji was up to in context of other religions. No religion or sect bothered Guru Nanak as long it was a way out to unite with the Lord; however, wherever he found hypocrisy and exploitation of the people in the name of a religion or a sect, he criticized that in forceful words, none was spared in this case. What he said in context of exploitation of other religions and sects is very well applicable to Sikhism too. As long as Sikh remains on a path to be hopeful of Lord’s grace to be united with the Lord while battling within to over come the negative forces and live in His love, he/she remains a Sikh otherwise a label of any religion is not really attractive in Guru ji’s views. He goes further in explaining the purpose of the life in very crystal clear words that is to unite with our origin- the Lord. If that thing is missing, there is no religion but shops of exploitations of the souls with a badge of power to grind their own Axe . | Nicely said PK 70 ji, I agree word for word here. | 
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| | | | | Re: If All Paths Are Equal Then Why Was Sikhi Made? Kaur 1 Ji
I have got two ways to respond to your question. First one is little difficult but more satisfying and second is little easier.
1. Select two or three topics (varied topics) and search on those topics what does Quran says about it? What does Bible says about it? What does Gita or Ramayana says about it? and also What does Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji says about it? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14853
Also find out how these holy books came into existence. You will be able to distinguish Sikhism from all these religions.
2. Now coming to the easier solution. Make people of different religions your friends ( I hope you would already have some) and ask them about their religion, also look (take care I never said 'follow') at their lifestyle. you will notice a lot of instability and formalities ( I do notice) and then compare a Sikhs life. You will yourself come out with the answer. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=14853
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