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If All Paths Are Equal Then Why Was Sikhi Made? - Responding to Challenges to Sikhi


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I agree with Anoop jee's comment that in the eyes of God we are all equal.

Sikhism is the most tolerant and loving religion, which gives respect to everyone regardless of gender, ethnicity or beliefs. Unlike other religions Sikhism does not believe that non-believers go to Hell or are eternally dammed. This is pure injustice and there is no surprise why religions have led to massacres, crusades, jihads, terrorism and murder in the Name of God. Rather a Sikh prays at least twice daily for "Sarbat Da Bhallaa", meaning the good and prosperity of all Humanity regardless of religion, belief or faith.

The Sikh motto is: “See God in all, or not all.” If you cant appreciate, love and live with God’s creation and God’s created people then how does one expect the Grace of God?

Through Guru Nanak, and Guru Nanak alone, Sikhs believe one can merge into God in life through living a complete and perfect spiritually balanced way of life immersed in the loving devotion to God and His Creation. The religion and its beliefs are unique. The concept of equality exemplified by Sikhism is not the result of a debate concerning which paths are more (or less) efficient and ultimately productive; equality is not based upon such rational discussions or language games. The Sikhism concept of equality is an inward and outward acceptance of all and seeing everyone as a soul rather than religious labels, which results directly from the practice of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee's (the Sikh’s Sacred Scripture) teachings.


"Whatever religion you are, belong to it, follow it, have faith in god!"

I agree that everyone should have faith in God. However, can you please support the claim that whatever religion you are, belong to it and follow it?

First thing which could come in the mind of someone is - What's the point of Sikhi and the Path of Gurmat if all Guru Nanak Sahib jee wanted us to do was become a good Muslim who follows Quran and Sharia, good Christian who follows Church and Bible etc? Therefore, there is nothing unique or special to Gurmat and Gurmat is equal to all other Paths and ways?

f this were true - then the worrying thing is that we are saying that Guru Sahib is saying if you are Christian - go drink wine, slaughter animals and kill them for your hunger, woman is responsible for sin, as per Paul's writings that woman should be under authority of father, then husband then if husband dies son, there is no emphasis on Naam or Naam Japnaa because "believing" in the Saviour alone is fine.

In terms of Judaism - if it were true that "If you are a ***, obey Jewish tenets and become a good ***. " Then the worrying thing is that as Sikhs we are agreeing to the following things that its okay curse women and say " Thank God that I am not born as a Woman" (which is tenet practiced by Rabbis (Jewish Priests) every morning), that women are impure and therefore not allowed to teach the Tohra (Jewish Scripture) or allowed to lead prayer or even by in the same hall as a man when praying, we are saying that its right for people to mutilate their God given body and practice circumcision?
Vaheguru.

Guru Nanak Sahib jee DID tell the Muslim to become a True Muslim and a Pandit (Scholar) to become a True Pandit (this in Gurbaani). However, Guru Nanak Sahib jee REDEFINED what a TRUE Muslim is, what a TRUE Pandit is, what a TRUE Yogi is, what a TRUE Sidhi is etc. For the Guru - a true Yogi, true Muslim, true Pandit, true ascetic, true Brahman is a GURMUKH - one lives the teachings Guru Nanak Sahib jee and follows the religion of GURMAT NAAM. For example Guru Nanak Sahib jee tells the Muslim to read Namaaz (prayers) however Guru Sahib REDEFINES Namaaz and tells the Muslim what the TRUE Namaaz is ( i.e. the life of a Gurmukh) - you can read the shabad here:
SikhiToTheMAX - Enabling Gurmat Knowledge

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

Daas,
Manvir Singh




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I agree with Anoop jee's comment that in the eyes of God we are all equal.

Sikhism is the most tolerant and loving religion, which gives respect to everyone regardless of gender, ethnicity or beliefs. Unlike other religions Sikhism does not believe that non-believers go to Hell or are eternally dammed. This is pure injustice and there is no surprise why religions have led to massacres, crusades, jihads, terrorism and murder in the Name of God. Rather a Sikh prays at least twice daily for "Sarbat Da Bhallaa", meaning the good and prosperity of all Humanity regardless of religion, belief or faith.

The Sikh motto is: “See God in all, or not all.” If you cant appreciate, love and live with God’s creation and God’s created people then how does one expect the Grace of God?

Through Guru Nanak, and Guru Nanak alone, Sikhs believe one can merge into God in life through living a complete and perfect spiritually balanced way of life immersed in the loving devotion to God and His Creation. The religion and its beliefs are unique. The concept of equality exemplified by Sikhism is not the result of a debate concerning which paths are more (or less) efficient and ultimately productive; equality is not based upon such rational discussions or language games. The Sikhism concept of equality is an inward and outward acceptance of all and seeing everyone as a soul rather than religious labels, which results directly from the practice of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee's (the Sikh’s Sacred Scripture) teachings.


"Whatever religion you are, belong to it, follow it, have faith in god!"

I agree that everyone should have faith in God. However, can you please support the claim that whatever religion you are, belong to it and follow it?

First thing which could come in the mind of someone is - What's the point of Sikhi and the Path of Gurmat if all Guru Nanak Sahib jee wanted us to do was become a good Muslim who follows Quran and Sharia, good Christian who follows Church and Bible etc? Therefore, there is nothing unique or special to Gurmat and Gurmat is equal to all other Paths and ways?

f this were true - then the worrying thing is that we are saying that Guru Sahib is saying if you are Christian - go drink wine, slaughter animals and kill them for your hunger, woman is responsible for sin, as per Paul's writings that woman should be under authority of father, then husband then if husband dies son, there is no emphasis on Naam or Naam Japnaa because "believing" in the Saviour alone is fine.

In terms of Judaism - if it were true that "If you are a ***, obey Jewish tenets and become a good ***. " Then the worrying thing is that as Sikhs we are agreeing to the following things that its okay curse women and say " Thank God that I am not born as a Woman" (which is tenet practiced by Rabbis (Jewish Priests) every morning), that women are impure and therefore not allowed to teach the Tohra (Jewish Scripture) or allowed to lead prayer or even by in the same hall as a man when praying, we are saying that its right for people to mutilate their God given body and practice circumcision?
Vaheguru.

Guru Nanak Sahib jee DID tell the Muslim to become a True Muslim and a Pandit (Scholar) to become a True Pandit (this in Gurbaani). However, Guru Nanak Sahib jee REDEFINED what a TRUE Muslim is, what a TRUE Pandit is, what a TRUE Yogi is, what a TRUE Sidhi is etc. For the Guru - a true Yogi, true Muslim, true Pandit, true ascetic, true Brahman is a GURMUKH - one lives the teachings Guru Nanak Sahib jee and follows the religion of GURMAT NAAM. For example Guru Nanak Sahib jee tells the Muslim to read Namaaz (prayers) however Guru Sahib REDEFINES Namaaz and tells the Muslim what the TRUE Namaaz is ( i.e. the life of a Gurmukh) - you can read the shabad here:
SikhiToTheMAX - Enabling Gurmat Knowledge

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

Daas,
Manvir Singh
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Thanks for the clarification.




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