I do not want to get more into Sikhi but live as a Sikh. As for Sikh Guru's, Nanak Dev Ji stated

The Guru is Shiva, the Guru is Vishnu and Brahma; the Guru is Paarvati and Lakhshmi. Even knowing God, I cannot describe Him; He cannot be described in words. The Guru has given me this one understanding: there is only the One, the Giver of all souls. May I never forget Him!

Taking the message previous to yours into account and all that the GGS contains, what faith does Sikh philosophy not cover?

Maybe I've come to the wrong section? I'll continue to search for the section where One God can be discussed without discrimination and prejudice.

Dear Navroop singh ji,

SSA. I agree with you. However there is more to it.

Our Gurus, in their infinate wisdom, forbade Sikhs to worship pictures, idols etc of any one including themselves (Gurus).

Here is just one example, of the thousands, how these means are being used to manipulate the Sikh philosophy. The other day I saw a calendar picture showing "Guru Nanak Dev Ji tying Rakhri to Babe Nanki”!. Do you know ow many innocent Sikhs can be manipulated, so strongly, but equally unconsciously.

Khalsa200

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

I had the same issue and tried thinking about it.
I think there is not picture of any Guru. Sobha Singh listened to others and imagined Gurus. Sometimes you can see Mala in Guru Nanakdevji's Picture.

It's true if we take them in positive way there are some benefits but there are more wrong things associated. For example we already had this rakhi pic of Guru Nanak. But there can be a lot more. Anybody can portray anything in pictures. I credit muslims in this logic. They don't have any picture of their Prophet. But they instead put Verses of quran on walls instead of pics. And I accepted it as perfect way. Now I am thinking can we put Shabad in frame and hang it on wall. In this way i think i can be more near to guru's teachings, which is i think main intension of Sikhism. I can read it daily and try to implement it in my life. I think it would be wonderful and lot more effective than imagined pictures of Guru's. I think our main aim is to get connected with our eternal guru/shabad guru or Guru Jyot not Guru's Deh (Sharir) /or pictures.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

The guru is the bani, the word of the guru. The human form is irrelevant. "guru manyo Granth". So having pictures does not really mean much as they are only aesthetic in value. Plus how many of us are actually following in the paths of the Gurus? Because I feel that this energy should be spent discussing more prominant issues facing Sikhism. What do you all think?

Dear Khalsa ji. you are 100% correct. There is nor room in Sikhism for to keep pictures of our Gurus. First of all these pictures are made upon imaginery thoughts by many ideviduals.

They even do know how our gurus looked like.So is absolutly stop publishing them even remove them from Golden temple's art gallery which does not make any sense to display the art works by Bhai Sobha Singh ji.

Let the Sikh themselves realize their mistakes not tofollow the real messages by our Gurus who always critisize hindu for statu POOJA and PICTURES worship.




jaspi

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Sat Sri Akaal to all

Certain shabads, especially first pauri is already available framed, in punjabi and english. These are excellent reminders and opportunities to recite shabad and remember God. On another level, pictures have helped my son learn about Guru Ji as this is one of the easiest things children relate to and my son knows Guru Gobind Singh Ji as 'Fighting Guru Ji' a symbol of strength and justice, protector of the poor and helper of those who are on the True path. On several occasions my son referred to Guru Ji's photo's as God and after constant explaining my son hopefully now understands Guru Ji was one through who God showed the True path and God is ever present in Creation. He does ask what does God look like and the only answer I can give is that if he is good, does good deeds and remembers God, he will certainly meet God one day,whether in this life or after it, as we will all return to our True Creator.

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ke phateh. Peace

who cares?

Hey, if a picture or painting of a guru helps one to remember, concentrate, pay, respect or otherwise aid in one's "religion" , that is fine by me. Personally, pray to it as well if you want. So what? At least that person is venerating a Sikh theme and pillar. I know, "Not allowed", but it is not like we are THAT different from the hindus.

Someone who says that we are not THAT different from hinduism does not know Sikhi at all. Sikism is a self empowering religion and if you need to look at a picture to assist you in your worship then you are succumbing to weakness. This may sound mystical but believe me... keep your heart true and pure and use the presence of Satnam in your heart to assist you in your prayers. Do not fall into the trap of performing ritualistic prayers to the pictures as that is not the way of the Sikh. Picture is only materialistic existence while bani is ETERNAL. Free your self from all materialistic and ritualistic bondage.

Bull.
Sikhism is basically distilled hindusim and vedic philosophy absence much of the rituals, pile on centuries of islamic influence and the punjabi influences and there you are. Like all other religions, we are not that unique, although technically more modern and progressive. That is the dichotomy is it not? We cannot really separate ourselves from our hindu roots, yet we have allowed the harami kuthas the chances to divide us, subjugate us, kill us, desecrate our gurudwaras, use our men as cannon fodder and now our stupid leaders are allowing them to absorb our religion, language and people. So........ahem......where was I .......yes, despite all that, I really do feel that GGS and "Sikhi" and hinduism have the same basic roots and philosophies. "Materalistic and ritualistic bondage" is what the common man has, it is what the khalsa soldier had, it is what lakhs of Sikh soldiers across many continents had when they fought and died for the British master. What you are refering to is the abstract form of evolved spirituality which few ever will or can achieve, and to practice it often allows the realization of the true humanity of all mankind (in which there is no place for bigotry, prejudice, bias or pride)....and what does that leave you with? Essentially a yogi or working ascetic who cannot withstand the barbarians at his door.