Sidh Gosht - Pauri 1 - Guru Granth Sahib

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #11 (**permalink**) 17-Aug-2005, 17:39 PM

OK ji. I will try my best. It is like trying to put the "ocean" in a tea-cup.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sidh-gosht/5308-sidh-gosht-pauri-1-guru-granth.html

Jarnail singh
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waheguru123 · #12 (**permalink**) 10-Oct-2005, 05:00 AM

i have not got the punjabi font installed on my pc so could someone plz send me the punjabi font downloading link by private message plz. thankyou

ajmer123 · #13 (**permalink**) 21-Mar-2006, 17:26 PM

The philosophy of Sat Guru Nanak is very deep and he is already Realization of Self or is One with the Great Self. Here he just telling Sidhs he will give everything to that Realized Self , which the Sat Guru Nanak is a part himself in response to Sidhs asking him to salute them at the start of discussion. You have to understand here the Lord to which he is addressing and he himself are not different, but he do not want you to worship him in his materialistic physical form.

ajmersingh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balbir Singh

Satsriakal to all and Gyani Jarnail Singh Ji!
Thanks for starting the great Satsang.

You referred msqku kwit DrI iqsu AwgY qnu mnu AwgY dyau ]
mastak kaat Dharee tis aagai tan man aagai day-o.
I cut off my head, and offer it to Him; I dedicate my body and mind to Him.

I request to please elaborate the above Guru's Vaak.

How can a person offer his body and mind after he has cut off his head?

I will be grateful.

Balbir Singh

GBAINS · #14 (**permalink**) 11-Mar-2009, 11:10 AM

Dear Jagmeet

I can try to explain according to Gurbani Grammer
What are the Questions
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5308

Regards

Gurjeet

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #15 (**permalink**) 11-Mar-2009, 17:21 PM

BTW...whats happened to Balbir JI ? I saw this Post..and wondered.....Anyone knows ?? Or has he found his own "guru" and gone into the Kandra..cave with him...? His posts always intrigued me....

Narayanjot Kaur · #16 (**permalink**) 11-Mar-2009, 20:36 PM

Or has he found his own "guru" and gone into the Kandra..cave with him...?

Gyani ji

It was my impression that the forum member was a guru of some kind. Don't know about the cave. I think he goes to a regular Gurdwara.

khalsa1469 · #17 (**permalink**) 03-Jun-2010, 08:31 AM

Dear Jarnail Singh ji,

Vahgur ji ka Khalsa, Vahgur ji ki Fateh!

I shall respond with my interpretation of Siddh Gosht (hopefully soon). Meanwhile, I thank you for discussing the critical need for a grounding in Gurbani grammar. It is important for seekers of Gurmat.

There is something in your post that caught my eye and I wish to bring it to your attention, considering you have discussed grammatical rules.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gyani Jarnail Singh

In this case the word ... is with an aunkarr and is SINGULAR... as per Gurbani grammar...
...and Guru Ji further wrote another excellent shabad on this Maas maas kar MOORAKH JHAGGRREH...Only FOOLS argue about MEAT !!..but we still continue to do so.

Jarnail Singh

You had correctly pointed to the rule concerning the Aunkarh. However, if you apply that rule to the line to which you have referred, then it will change the focus of your argument.

Invariably, whenever people refer to this Shabad they claim that Guru Sahib is saying only fools argue about meat. However, this particular line in the Shabad talks specifically about the "learned" Pandit who judges others (as sinners) because of what they eat. Here, the khakha in Murakh has an aunkarh. The Shabad refers to those particular Murakhs who do not understand that we (humans) are all meat, we come from it, we marry it, we produce it and are sustained by it, and judge others for what they eat. This complete Shabad & Paurhi, more than any other, addressed the "meat issue". If only people had the courage to discuss it.

Guru Sahib explains that we are all meat and that an ignorant fool does not eat Bhakh - that which is fit to eat - food, including so-called meat, yet will eat Abhakh - that which is not fit for consumption - Paraya Haq, that which belongs to others. Guru Nanak says that those who cannot make this distinction and judge others are guided by a blind zeal (Andh Guru).

If we sit in judgment of others because of what they eat, or think ourselves superior because of what we eat, then we are the Murakh referred to by Guru Nanak.

The Paurhi's essence refers to the fact that people waste their time (life) over frivolous arguments while wallowing in hypocrisy. It also shows that the alternative is to seek guidance from the Universal Enlightener (Wisdom).

Akal Sahai!

Gaurav Singh

Gyani Jarnail Singh · #18 (**permalink**) 03-Jun-2010, 17:22 PM

Guarav Singh ji,
Thanks for the elaboration and insight. Valuable input. appreciated jios. Please do write more on this and related shabads.

prakash.s.bagga · #19 (**permalink**) 13-Mar-2011, 00:47 AM

GYANI JARNAIL SINGH Ji,
I appreciate your view of using the grammer in interpretation of Gurbaani.
As a matter of fact grammer gives specific direction to the meaning of the Gurbaani words.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5308

If there is WILL to understand Gurbaani Grammer it is very SIMPLE.If there is no WILL then it is most difficult.So it depends on our acceptance of grammer in Gurbaani.
I have my personal experience that most of the people think that there is no role of grammer in Gurbaani understanding.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=5308

So in these circumstances what best can be done you may think of some modus operandi to convince the people about the significance of understanding of Gurbaani as per grammer.
I hope you will look into this.
With regards

Prakash.S.Bagga