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08-Aug-2012, 00:51 AM
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The words of the tenth master either mean something or they do not.
Guru Maneo Granth is a pretty definitive statement, so, like plenty other things that others have to wrestle with, Sikhs do not have to debate or consider that which has already been decreed.
So who are you going to follow? the tenth master and the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?
or some fat BMW driving charlatan who wants to sleep with your sister? Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sects-groups-cults/38887-propaganda-against-radha-soami-satsang-beas.html
I would add that on this forum are many many Sikhs born outside of India, with English as a first language, and some with English as an only language, who seem to do very well without the benefits of a living breathing Guru. You see its all down to trust, who do you trust? As for the whole argument of living Gurus, or even Sants, or Babas, I am sure some very able people exist who can guide you, do you know how to spot them?
They will be the very quiet, softly spoken ones, who live modestly, have humility, reject the limelight, and go about their business helping all and sundry.
There you go, find someone like that.
The desire to show you know all, is described in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, p3
ਮੰਨੇ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਕਹੀ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ मंने की गति कही न जाइ ॥ Manne kī gaṯ kahī na jā▫e. The state of the faithful cannot be described.
ਜੇ ਕੋ ਕਹੈ ਪਿਛੈ ਪਛੁਤਾਇ ॥ जे को कहै पिछै पछुताइ ॥ Je ko kahai picẖẖai pacẖẖuṯā▫e. One who tries to describe this shall regret the attempt. Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38887
ਕਾਗਦਿ ਕਲਮ ਨ ਲਿਖਣਹਾਰੁ ॥ कागदि कलम न लिखणहारु ॥ Kāgaḏ kalam na likẖaṇhār. No paper, no pen, no scribe
ਮੰਨੇ ਕਾ ਬਹਿ ਕਰਨਿ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ मंने का बहि करनि वीचारु ॥ Manne kā bahi karan vīcẖār. can record the state of the faithful. Got anything to share on This Topic? Why not share your immediate thoughts/reaction with us! Login Now! or Sign Up Today! to share your views... Gurfateh! | | The following members appreciate harry haller Ji for the above message. | |
08-Aug-2012, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh  Hmm I think no human can teach us home building like birds or how to love like dogs. Remember, Sikhs are God Loving, not God fearing. | No Sir,You are going towards somthing else...Every body on earth is made out of 5 elements..like plants contains characteristics of 1 element and fishes etc contain 2 elements and so on....only human beings are the creatures who have the 5 elements body and only creature who can do new karam and get the result of the old karams or deeds ...after it,only god or that super power comes..
All of the other bodies or creatures come for getting results of old deeds.
You cant worship those bodies who are below ur level like trees or animals,so only two things are left...either another human who is of ur own status n that almighty power who is at the top.you cant see dat god ,so only human is option...There is smthing special in human body which is not present in other bodies...thats why it is called as the top of creation by god... Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh Well I see the sun all the time. I have stopped wearing sunglasses for I wanted to see the sun with naked eyes  | u r equal to almighty den ,well u dint get the meaning.. Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh What we needed was Gyan! And that we have in form of Guru Granth Sahib! | yes,Guru GRanth SAhib is source of gyan for every human..Our saints wrote every thing in very easy form and we cant describe praise in our words but again the question is if the gyan was the only thing then ravan who had knowledge of 4 veds and 9 shastra and 18 purans could get the every thing but wat happened to him...I m again saying and my again question is who will save u from inside ,when u will try to go coz real journey starts from inside...none of u answered it...
Guru Granth SAhib tells us n warns us about the needs n how to make that almighty happy....n so does every bible to kuraan...but my question is still .. Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh No Human Guru is free from Kaal (Death) | Kaal is not death but its part of that Maya and guru hv to come in human body which is part of maya ...but the power inside that suit or human body is not kaal or under kaal....  Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh trouble is we just need to do what is written in Guru Granth Sahib. And remember, u dont learn to walk by watching someone else. u r helped, but u dont watch and learn. its when u need to reach things kept at a height, u grab at sm chair, take support and try stand up. reading from some scripture and looking at some living person is same thing, what is needed is the will to submit to Truth. | Obviuously we need to do the teachings of Guru Granth SAhib but can u do it?...
no....
You cant even imagine wat god expects from us?? and will that kaal let us to do so? no..
Can u control kaam,krodh,lobh,maya etc?? no...
Many tried for 10000 years but got nothing and this is power of mind...  |
08-Aug-2012, 01:17 AM
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See there is one thing to know that we have to control the 5 vices. And there is second thing to start controlling them. From first to second, it is all Gurprasad, what might be termed as Miracle or Change of Heart. Your mom will tell you 100 times to pick up your clothes from floor, it is only when you step on your laptop lost in the clothes that you realize you need to change! | | The following members appreciate Kanwaljit Singh Ji for the above message. | |
08-Aug-2012, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by harry haller
The desire to show you know all, is described in the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, p3
ਮੰਨੇ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਕਹੀ ਨ ਜਾਇ ॥ मंने की गति कही न जाइ ॥ Manne kī gaṯ kahī na jā▫e. The state of the faithful cannot be described.
ਜੇ ਕੋ ਕਹੈ ਪਿਛੈ ਪਛੁਤਾਇ ॥ जे को कहै पिछै पछुताइ ॥ Je ko kahai picẖẖai pacẖẖuṯā▫e. One who tries to describe this shall regret the attempt.
ਕਾਗਦਿ ਕਲਮ ਨ ਲਿਖਣਹਾਰੁ ॥ कागदि कलम न लिखणहारु ॥ Kāgaḏ kalam na likẖaṇhār. No paper, no pen, no scribe
ਮੰਨੇ ਕਾ ਬਹਿ ਕਰਨਿ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ मंने का बहि करनि वीचारु ॥ Manne kā bahi karan vīcẖār. can record the state of the faithful.
| I 100% agree wid dat.....Many saints came and when asked how do u describe GOd? or Do u know every thing? none of dem answered ..den how a creature like me dare to say that...??...no never...
so plz dont get me wrong....i m writing coz i hv answers to give wid my very very small knowledge and i m here to get knowledge from u ppl coz u all are better den me which made me to come here... |
08-Aug-2012, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Kanwaljit Singh See there is one thing to know that we have to control the 5 vices. And there is second thing to start controlling them. From first to second, it is all Gurprasad, what might be termed as Miracle or Change of Heart. Your mom will tell you 100 times to pick up your clothes from floor, it is only when you step on your laptop lost in the clothes that you realize you need to change! | Sir see,WE are living in kalyug which is last phase of earth.In earlier yugs,Human beings used to have age in thousands and millions but ask dem could they get it? so how we can do in age which is not more than 70-80 yrs upto max in this kalyug?...
History is here to teach us and i gave example of RAVAn.. |
08-Aug-2012, 04:03 AM
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Oh you mean this Kaljug? ਇਕ ਘੜੀ ਨ ਮਿਲਤੇ ਤਾ ਕਲਿਜੁਗੁ ਹੋਤਾ ॥ When I could not be with You for just one moment, the Dark Age of Kali Yuga dawned for me. ਹੁਣਿ ਕਦਿ ਮਿਲੀਐ ਪ੍ਰਿਅ ਤੁਧੁ ਭਗਵੰਤਾ ॥ When will I meet You, O my Beloved Lord?
<LI class="post_count desc lighter"> Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38887 ਮੋਹਿ ਰੈਣਿ ਨ ਵਿਹਾਵੈ ਨੀਦ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਬਿਨੁ ਦੇਖੇ ਗੁਰ ਦਰਬਾਰੇ ਜੀਉ ॥੩॥ I cannot endure the night, and sleep does not come, without the Sight of the Beloved Guru's Court. (3) ਹਉ ਘੋਲੀ ਜੀਉ ਘੋਲਿ ਘੁਮਾਈ ਤਿਸੁ ਸਚੇ ਗੁਰ ਦਰਬਾਰੇ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=38887 I am a sacrifice, my soul is a sacrifice, to that True Court of the Beloved Guru. (1)(Pause) | | The following member appreciates Kanwaljit Singh Ji for the above message. | |
08-Aug-2012, 07:39 AM
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Gurjot317 ji welcome to spn and your posts. I recently started reading some of yours. Quote:
Originally Posted by Gurjot317 History is here to teach us and i gave example of RAVAn.. | When did a novel became History? Stories and fables are not history. Can you please elaborate!
Babeys/Dehras in one way or another try to convince you to believe in stories/chamatkars/miracles as history and facts. This is done so that they can get you to believe their contortions as truths as well. You are lead towards believing without questioning so that you can become the perfect sheep to be lead and fleeced.
Sat Sri Akal. | | The following members appreciate Ambarsaria Ji for the above message. | |
08-Aug-2012, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ambarsaria Gurjot317 ji welcome to spn and your posts. I recently started reading some of yours.When did a novel became History? Stories and fables are not history. Can you please elaborate!
Babeys/Dehras in one way or another try to convince you to believe in stories/chamatkars/miracles as history and facts. This is done so that they can get you to believe their contortions as truths as well. You are lead towards believing without questioning so that you can become the perfect sheep to be lead and fleeced.
Sat Sri Akal. |
HaHahA  ...
Miracles used to happen during time of jesus,even during time of guru nanak saab,kabir saab,bulleshah ji....so they came for making us sheep?..
My question is still unanswered n i asked that who will save u from inside when kaal dont leave a soul outside through kaam,krodh etc?
Ramayan is not story and RAVAN etc just tell us that ur knowledge cant save you,ur money cant save you,your power cant save you....then wats needed?
Jesus once told in bible that ""I m here to collect the marked souls"" |
08-Aug-2012, 11:06 AM
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So you mean to say Jesus is jamdoot or kaal? | 
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