Why have Sikhs Changed Sikhism?

Sanatanism is a paranoid and made up term by stupid untraditional people on culturally misunderstanding sites like panthic.org .

Sanatan dharm is emphasising on following dharm, with sanatan being the term something that lasts forever (Exact meaning someone can explain please?). Also shows dharm to be ancient. Everyone should know dharm isn't new.

Guru Nanak spread dharm, so did the udasis, to so many places. The Khalsa Nihang fauj defended the people against adharam.

Also to add, the Udasis did most of the hard work as sikhs for spreading dharam and bringing people into sikh panth from far reaching regions around Hindustan and beyond. This makes sense, as the are the wandering sadhus of the sikh panth.

 
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Sorry Veerji, I should have clarified, I mean in the present climate. We all differ, we all have different frameworks, and those frameworks, more often than not, reflect the sort of person we are too. I follow a nil interaction with Creator form of Sikhi, if I want to speak to the big man, I do so through interaction with Creation, or self debate, period. Some chant, some pray, some have rituals, some are beautiful people but have a few vices, some have no vices but are disgusting people, so , yes, I think we do all have our own framework which works for us, and this framework is reflective of who we are.

Other than of course those that follow a framework for purely social reasons, log kya kehang gai, to those, a visit to Gurudwara is more about keeping up with the Joneses, (or the Janagans), but even these people have a place in Sikhi, unfortunately they tend to be the ones who give Sikhs the stereotypes we have ended up with.

mere mortals? OK but I what about the judgement of Sant Baba Gurbhachan Singh Bhindrawalay? He is definetly not just a mere mortal!

Also, if you doubt Giani Gurdev Singh then read this:

http://www.sarbloh.info/htmls/articl..._bhindra5.html

"Out of all the ‘Gianis’ hailing from Samparda Bhindra alive today, Giani Gurdev Singh is considered to be the most serious and most learned. This was eluded to by the numerous individuals Nihang Niddar Singh spoke to whilst on his travels in India."

@SIKS Singh:

How can u tell that Nihang Sikhs r a sect?! they was foundet of Guru Gobind Singh ji himself,
and with his permition!
they a r a very intersting part of the Sikh culture, and they a r more traditional than us modern siks.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/sects-groups-cults/37417-why-have-sikhs-changed-sikhism.html
they are the warriors that made our enemies fear us on the Battlefield.
a lot of the Sikh Heros are Nihangs (like Baba Deep Singh Ji)
they was on the battles on the frontline, and leave there lives to save and protect our culture! u can find them even in Sri Guru Granth Sahib.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

lionprinceuk quote:


mere mortals? OK but I what about the judgement of Sant Baba Gurbhachan Singh Bhindrawalay? He is definetly not just a mere mortal!

"Also, if you doubt Giani Gurdev Singh then read this:

http://www.sarbloh.info/htmls/articl..._bhindra5.html

"Out of all the ‘Gianis’ hailing from Samparda Bhindra alive today, Giani Gurdev Singh is considered to be the most serious and most learned. This was eluded to by the numerous individuals Nihang Niddar Singh spoke to whilst on his travels in India."
"

You mention the judgement of Giani Gurbachan Singh ji Khalsa Bhindranwale, here is Giani Gurbachan Singh ji's views written in his book called Gurmukh Parkash quote:

ਦਿੱਹਲੀ ਮੇ ਰਕਾਬ ਗੰਜ ਕੰਧ ਢਾਹੀ ਫਿਰੰਗੀ, ਸਿੰਘ ਸਾਵਧਾਨ ਜਾਗੇ ਸੀਸਾਂ ਤਾਈਂ ਲਾਵਨੇ ।
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37417
ਭਾਈ ਰਣਧੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਸੀਸ ਦੇਣ ਆਪ ਗਏ, ਕੰਧ ਉਸਰਾਲੀ ਫੇਰ ਮੋਨੀ ਘਬਰਾਵਨੇ ।
ਸੰਤ ਰਣਧੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਨਾਮੁ ਲਿਵਲਾਈ ਜਿਨਾਂ, ਕੀਰਤਨ ਅਖੰਡ ਕਰੈ ਮਨ ਤ੍ਰਿਪਤਾਵਨੇ ।
ਸਤਰਾਂ ਸਾਲ ਜੇਲ ਕਟੀ ਸਰਬ ਲੋਹ ਬੀਚ ਛਕੈ, ਧੰਨ ਗੁਰੂ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਮਨ ਤਨ ਰੰਗ ਗਾਵਨੇ ।।੭੭ ।।

In the above poem, Giani ji has lovingly called bhai sahib bhai Randhir Singh ji a Sant and Dhan Guru Piare and mentioned how bhai sahib stayed in jail for 16 years when he opposed the British rulers knocking down the wall of Gurdwara Sahib Rakab Ganj.

This is in Giani Gurbachan Singh ji's own words. Giani ji's judgement of bhai sahib was that he was a sant who did akhand (non-stop) kirtan. This is written proof from the Jathedar ji himself. I will trust Baba Gurbachan Singh ji's own words.
Reference:: Sikh Philosophy Network http://www.sikhphilosophy.net/showthread.php?t=37417

I urge for the final time please refrain from doing ninda of a Gursikh spent gave 16 years of their life in jail for the panth. Satguru Mehar Karan!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Hey not at all, I will not do nindya myself. I was just posting some stuff I read on the internet, not my judgement at all.

But I refuse to follow Bhai Randhir Singh as Guru or need to. I will follow Guru Granth Sahib, I do NOT need to read anything by Bhai Randhir Singh, or by Sant Jarnail Singh, and refuse to quote their words, because I place Guru Gobind Singh and Adh Guru Granth Sahib above anything they say, so please understand this!

Thanks, but also please nobody treat Gurus fauj, the nihangs, as "just" another sect, and please do not doubt puraatan maryada as just another maryada.

Exactly, why is Siks Singh making a thread about changing sikhi, and then doesn't recognise sikhs changing Khalsa form the original Nihangs?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=zA4_dxhTylI#! WHY THE Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji MENTIONS KESH..DASTAAR ETC..WHY ??