Nanaksar Movement

Gyani Janail Singh ji thanks and fully understood.

Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji says and I believe creator to be infinite. So no possibility of Darshan as we do not have the faculties to see infinite dead or live, wake or sleep.

I noted the same from the sabad but wanted this to percolate for self realization by the Darshan believers. Veer Bhagat Singh ji is trying and at least this way he is quoting gurbani with some understanding. I know we can all help each other as we are all one.

I hope Bhagat Singh ji and Amarjit Singh Bamrah ji take the time to reflect and respond as to what seeking of any Darshan as described by Bhagat Singh ji or as experienced by Amarjit Singh Bamrah has anything to do with Sikhism and Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Such are plain creations of an active mind as represented by visualizations (me), Hallucinations, make-believe or dreams.
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Sat Sri Akal.

 
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Bhagat Singhji,

you said above

(A mind that cannot differentiate between hallucinations and reality cannot know whether it has had a darshan)

I have come across some pretty spaced out individuals in my time, but never have I come across anyone who could not differentiate between hallucinations and reality. Such people normally have severe mental problems, I assume you are talking of those without, if so, could you elaborate as I think I am missing something

so far in the Sikhism context we seem to be at the "visible darshan" (floating figures supposedly this Guru or that Shaheed shining white lights etc etc..SILENT ONES..)...BUT i havent yet come across those who also "HEAR VOICES" ( sound darshan ??)..as we have plenty in the Christian/islamic World...as in "God whispered to me..KILL the infidel..Burn the Blackie...etc etc".. types. Perhaps this is ebcasue Sikhism is just 500 years old compared tot he 2000 year old christian/islamic religions...so i await the day when a "darshan giving Guru also INSTRUCTS VERBALLY via whispers ....KILL the Hindus..Murder the Muslims...??? as in "asikh sanghero"...is such a "Verbal Guru" at hand...will i hear such a tale within my lifetime ?? My son told me..No way..dad..Sikhism will JUMP to a CYBER GURU..He will not whisper..he will radiate thoughts..or use Gmail !! and "Beam Me Up Scotty " Stattrek type !!

I wonder if the following is also same Darshan concept,


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Nice tunes including copy of "Sarkey Sarkey Jandiaye Mutiarey Neen ...." in later part.

Thanks.

Gyani means amongst other meanings - one who imparts unjudgemental wisdom and pure teachings without any EGO!

Ego means Edging God outwards
I have a small question waheguruji.

How much time have you spent on Smadhi / meditation to connect
to your inner self?

Its in meditation one hears the voice of God.

Otherwise during our normal thinking its our Manas mind the lower mind which makes the decisions
Once we tap into the infinite Grace which comes with Meditation/Samadhi we slowly come to the understanding and hear the Inner pure thoughts which manifest from our inner Godhead.

Satnaam Satnaam


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amarjit

There is only one way to find Darshan, as far as I am concerned, and it does not need meditation, candles, chanting, bright lights, visions, it is when the mind is focused and calm through living, not escaping.

If one can wake up in the morning, remember God through Bani, and try as best one can, to live that day through Bani, honesty, truth, bravery, to go through the day sowing good seeds, avoiding making enemies, showing love to all, earning in an honest fashion, but also being firm and standing up for what you believe in, and you can go home, remember God through bani, and sleep peacefully in the arms of your loved one, then you have found Darshan
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Others may find Darshan in different ways, and of course I respect all other methods, just not for me

Amarjit Ji..samadhis and all that is not for a SIKH who is to be a Householder..a working perosn earning his honest earnings..and then SHARINg those with the less fortunate...that is a 24/7 JOB..leaving no time for wehlarr samadhis and meditation sessions...the Gurmatt way is to "have samadhi while the Hands work"...as even Bulleh Shah understands..hands work..the mind..dwells on Him....so as per my understanding sikh samadhi is a "working" samadhi much akin to a working holiday...
The Punjabi farmer esp during Guru nanak jis time went to the fields well before DAWN to hall-waah as much as possible...and then return home about mid-morning..take soem food, go back to the fields for doing godee, feed the milk cows milk them water them, etc etc and go back to the fileds to cut fresh grass..etc....CHARAN DHOYEH REHRASS KAR is mentioned a s a Daily routine by Bhai Gurdass Ji..BUT "samadhi/mediataion" is NOT.
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Gyani.....I am NOT that type of Gyani...so please dont expect anything of that sort from me...my EGO is just as big as anyone else..even IF i have never had a vision of any Guru or sant...for me the Gyani is just a paper qualification in Punajbi langauage/literature/gurabni/sikh hsitory offered by universities...nothing more...a hobby of mine.